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foreverinchina
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China tells Google to end foreign site access
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/10f5984e-5cd6-11de-9d42-00144feabdc0.html
please note that Mr. Edward Yu is involved in this issue:
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China tells Google to end foreign site access
By Kathrin Hille in Beijing
Published: June 19 2009 14:37 | Last updated: June 20 2009 00:02
Beijing has ordered Google to stop users of its Chinese-language service accessing overseas websites in the biggest blow to the world’s leading search engine in China since it started operating there four years ago.
In a move that could disrupt Google’s growth in China, which now has more internet users than the US, the Chinese government said it had told Google to suspend foreign searches and a feature that automatically suggests multiple search results once typing commences in the search window.
EDITOR’S CHOICE
Google has rude awakening in China - Jun-19John Gapper: technology is for revolution (and repression) - Jun-19Solid Oak steps up China ‘net nanny’ storm - Jun-19Tech blog - Feb-24US firm warns PC makers over Chinese software - Jun-17Digital Business: Google shows how the web was won - Jun-17The action comes amid a storm of outrage among Chinese internet users over Beijing’s order that every new PC sold in the country be equipped with censorship software, ostensibly to block pornography. One senior US internet figure said the move against Google appeared to be an attempt to deflect attention away from the domestic censorship uproar by redirecting concerns about pornography against a foreign company.
According to state media on Friday, authorities said Google was being “punished” for linking to pornographic content.
On Thursday, in a “law enforcement talk”, the government announced that it was ordering the company to suspend foreign searches and automated keywords, according to Xinhua, the official news agency, and China Central Television, the main state broadcaster.
Searches on Google.cn were still turning up foreign websites several hours after the announcement. However, the automated keyword feature had been disabled. Google confirmed on Friday it had met government representatives on Thursday “to discuss problems with the Google.cn service and its serving of pornographic images and content based on foreign language searches”.
The company was undertaking a thorough review of its service and believed it had addressed most of the problems, it said.
Observers said the crackdown was likely to be a mixture of the government’s recent hardline approach on censorship and increasingly bitter rivalry with Baidu, a domestic search engine, which holds a 59 per cent market share.
Although the authorities accused only Google of allowing links to lurid content, similar material could be found on Baidu.
China surpassed the US as the nation with the world’s largest internet population last year and has about 300m users.
The government has been clamping down on various sites for months in the name of a campaign against “vulgar” online content.
“If these restrictions are kept up for more than a few days, they will have a huge impact on Google’s business in China,” said Edward Yu, chief executive of Analysys, an internet research company in China.
“Traffic will drop quickly because users will find it extremely cumbersome to search without automated keywords and will feel they cannot find results they are looking for, such as foreign travel and shopping information.”
Google has been growing aggressively in China over the past year and its market share exceeded 30 per cent for the first time in the first quarter of this year, according to Analysys research. |
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jzzzzzzz
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June 22, 2009 - 08:53 AM |
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google.cn is still showing foreign sites in search results. |
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ziccawei
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June 22, 2009 - 09:57 AM |
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Anyone tried this:
www.google.cn/music
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Tons of music to download at really fast speeds too. Free. |
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tihZ_hO
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June 22, 2009 - 10:35 AM |
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If google.com still works in China (which it does), who cares what google.cn does?
What's the big deal?? |
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Rumpelstiltskin
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June 22, 2009 - 11:52 AM |
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If google.com still works in China (which it does), who cares what google.cn does?
What's the big deal?? |
No big deal for us
But locals must be using mostly google.cn
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/google.cn
Alexa rank 21 and #4 in China (reach 2.4%, 83% China = 2%)
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/google.com
#7 in China (reach 31%, 4.3% China = 1.34%)
So google.cn has about only 50% more Chinese visitors than google.com that I am surprised |
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tihZ_hO
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June 22, 2009 - 12:30 PM |
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| Rumpelstiltskin wrote: |
| tihZ_hO wrote: |
If google.com still works in China (which it does), who cares what google.cn does?
What's the big deal?? |
No big deal for us
But locals must be using mostly google.cn
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/google.cn
Alexa rank 21 and #4 in China (reach 2.4%, 83% China = 2%)
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/google.com
#7 in China (reach 31%, 4.3% China = 1.34%)
So google.cn has about only 50% more Chinese visitors than google.com that I am surprised |
Me too - I would have thought google.cn would have much more than 50% over google.com.
Could it be many Chinese just type in google.com instead of .cn for whatever reasons OTHER than they specifically wanted .com? |
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Shangstar
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June 22, 2009 - 01:37 PM |
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fine - lets ban the expo2010 websites abroad. |
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foreverinchina
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June 22, 2009 - 02:00 PM |
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| tihZ_hO wrote: |
If google.com still works in China (which it does), who cares what google.cn does?
What's the big deal?? |
Apparently, also in google.com they made some modifications.
For certain words, the feature that automatically suggests multiple search results has been disabled.
Try it. |
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Rumpelstiltskin
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June 22, 2009 - 02:10 PM |
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| Could it be many Chinese just type in google.com instead of .cn for whatever reasons OTHER than they specifically wanted .com? |
I think they found out .com gives more results |
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jzzzzzzz
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June 22, 2009 - 02:35 PM |
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| foreverinchina wrote: |
Apparently, also in google.com they made some modifications.
For certain words, the feature that automatically suggests multiple search results has been disabled.
Try it. |
I just did and the auto suggestions thing is still working on the English google.com. The Chinese version of google.com and google.cn both appear to have it disabled and both have the same edited results they have always had. |
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Rumpelstiltskin
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June 22, 2009 - 04:09 PM |
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| foreverinchina wrote: |
Apparently, also in google.com they made some modifications.
For certain words, the feature that automatically suggests multiple search results has been disabled.
Try it. |
I just did and the auto suggestions thing is still working on the English google.com. The Chinese version of google.com and google.cn both appear to have it disabled and both have the same edited results they have always had. |
Yeah I think they decide based on language set of the browser too |
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foreverinchina
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June 22, 2009 - 07:24 PM |
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| For certain words, the feature that automatically suggests multiple search results has been disabled. |
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yzyspzokk
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June 23, 2009 - 12:39 PM |
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Just get an proxy, no big deal, propaganda and goverments' little secrets are way beyond my
head.lol |
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paul2008
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June 26, 2009 - 09:25 PM |
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tihZ_hO
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June 27, 2009 - 03:10 AM |
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HAHA!
Seems the problem is with the CHINESE BAIDU search engine NOT Google!! |
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tihZ_hO
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June 27, 2009 - 03:16 AM |
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Why am I not surprised that the Chinese copy is not nearly as good as the original? |
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Shangstar
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July 28, 2009 - 03:30 PM |
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what's going on now? I cannot use Google Image or News |
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CoffeeHawk_0
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July 28, 2009 - 08:35 PM |
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works for me, but for a while stops after the 3rd or 4th page of results (been doing that for months) |
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