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shangdbhai
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July 04, 2009 - 06:39 AM |
 
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From the window of my apartment which is pretty high up, I see "fog" these days, thickest in the moring. This is summer time and it should not be foggy. Is what I am seeing pollution? |
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MrPuxi
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July 04, 2009 - 07:11 AM |
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wow, that question is shocking! you must be new here!?!
just FYI, it is fog. do you really think any place on earth could be that dirty and polluted?  |
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cankles
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July 04, 2009 - 07:12 AM |
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A little from column A, and a little from column B I think. |
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RussianBear
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July 04, 2009 - 09:09 AM |
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zoolander
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July 04, 2009 - 10:01 AM |
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yu888
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July 04, 2009 - 10:16 AM |
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Amusing that one could believe its anything but pollution, but then again, I have seen far worse....both here in Shanghai as well as in many other places. |
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Shangstar
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July 04, 2009 - 10:28 AM |
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yes, if you think Shanghai is bad, try Lagos, Mexico City or Dhaka, all places I have visited (mericfully only on very short trips). |
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eagle1
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July 04, 2009 - 10:34 AM |
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its for sure pollution... i have had breathing troubles in the city...
Feel homesick now  |
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RussianBear
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July 04, 2009 - 10:37 AM |
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Shanghai air is better then in Beijing. I guess what Baogan Steel - is a problem of Sh. |
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Medea
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July 04, 2009 - 11:16 AM |
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lubrication on your contacts |
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Humac
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July 04, 2009 - 11:40 AM |
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| eagle1 wrote: |
its for sure pollution... i have had breathing troubles in the city...
Feel homesick now |
I had trouble breathing the first two weeks I was here. The body adapts. The upside is that when you get home you won't believe how clean the air is there. |
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DavidNamaste
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July 04, 2009 - 11:54 PM |
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Its Smog a mixture of fog and pollution. Havent seen it since the early 70's in L.A. Just dont breathe too deeply, Running is a no no
I wonder if oxygen bars would be in fashion here like Tokyo?? |
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alee
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July 05, 2009 - 12:36 AM |
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Shang hai's environment is anxious! |
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RussianBear
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July 05, 2009 - 01:33 AM |
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Tigger_LaoWai
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July 05, 2009 - 02:21 AM |
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Ive had to nearly double over on runs as my lungs burn from the smog, gasping for air, feels like im a 4000 meters.
does the cardio benefits outweigh the probable lung cancer  |
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Tigger_LaoWai
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July 05, 2009 - 02:22 AM |
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at 4000meters altitude that is! |
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Shangstar
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July 05, 2009 - 07:50 AM |
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yes, I never thought I'd say it....but the air in London is gorgeous (compared to Shanghai). Actually, the environment here has made me start to think recently whether I want to stay here for too much longer. I want to wake up to mildew in the mornings and condensation on the windows, walk on thick clumpy grass, and sit against fat trunk trees that grow naturally where they want and how they want......okay, I am homesick as well. |
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robstewarts
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July 05, 2009 - 08:17 AM |
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I like it, blocks the suns harmful rays |
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blondesands
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July 05, 2009 - 12:15 PM |
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| I like it, blocks the suns harmful rays |
Being able to look directly at the setting sun  hate it!!! I suppose living in a huge, developing city has its disadvantages, and pollution (noise, light, water and air) are unfortunately on top of the list  |
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OhDannyBoy
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Andreas
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July 05, 2009 - 07:14 PM |
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Shanghai is definitely not the worst, and I must say it's better now than a few years ago. |
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BONNIE
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July 05, 2009 - 08:04 PM |
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If it's just pollution then why do we get some beautiful blue sky days without a hint of haze? Is it something to do with the cloud base that traps the pollution below ? |
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BONNIE
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July 05, 2009 - 08:05 PM |
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And yes Andreas is correct - used to be much worse.
Wait till we get the black speck days when the farmers are burning the fields. |
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Andreas
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July 05, 2009 - 09:18 PM |
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| If it's just pollution then why do we get some beautiful blue sky days without a hint of haze? Is it something to do with the cloud base that traps the pollution below ? |
You are right. First of all smog only gets bad when you have a so called inversion layer in the atmosphere, which traps the air. And most of the times when you see blue skies you will also notice that the prevailing wind is from the sea. |
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bigroh73
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July 05, 2009 - 09:35 PM |
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Shanghai is much better than many other cities in China - and that's a scary thought. I've lived in BJ and Shenzhen - had health problems associated with the air.
THat being said, SHA is much better than 5 or 6yrs ago, for sure.
I just came back from 3 weeks in Australia - my body spent 2 weeks in adjusting to the sudden rush of clean air filtering through my system. Second day upon my return to Sha, i was sick for a week - sore throat and cough. Hhhmmmmm...
As others have said, you get used to it, it is getting better, and its far from being the worst in China or many other cities in the world. |
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