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Post  Posted: July 05, 2009 - 05:15 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

sizzling_fajita wrote:
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I put my arms in a wedge in front of my like a train's cowcatcher, and bulldoze through the crowd. Most people here don't weigh more than 120 pounds, so it's not hard to shove them out of the way so I can get on with my life.


I do exactly the same when I get off the subway and they do not give way...maaaan they look so confused, but then again, is it so hard to wait for people inside to get OUT so you can go IN?

Sad part is, whenever I politely wait, I NEVER get to sit and more than 1 time I have to see 2 trains go by because I waited in line istead of cutting it like some others. GGRRR!


Here it is the survival of the fittest Very Happy
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^ or the rudest.

gotta do what it takes to survive in this jungle...
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^^ If it's survival of the fittest, then I would suggest them to change their diet...

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maybe survival of the biggest size independent of diet
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ClarenceBodicker wrote:
obviously ur comparison of emsissions is ridiculous and false as is the ludicrous notion china will lead the world for battery powered cars.

wot r u smoking?


comes from meeting with leading companies in china. you can google the emissions thing. i don't smoke.

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One thing that really annoys me on the long distance trains and airplanes are when you got an aisle seat, and you get to your seat first. Then 5 minutes later, here comes this guy/girl looking desperatly at their window seat. Rocking back and forth a few times, trying to decide what to do next. You're sitting there looking up at them, waiting for a "excuse me, I'm by the window". Instead they try to walk over you, squeeze in the 1" gap between your knees and the seat in front of you.
"Now piss off, and let me get out, so you can get in!"


yeah, don't understand why locals don't have the courtesy or the courage to speak up and say a simple, "excuse me." instead, they try to slide into gaps, invariably hitting you with a bag or shoe as they're passing, or they just push.

when i know someone is trying to get past me but they don't say anything, i just stand still. sometimes i'll position myself to make it harder for them to get past just to force them to say something. and STILL they don't say anything and just try to jump over or force their way through. then i get exasperated and say out loud in chinese, "hey, you can't speak up?"

even in taiwan, people are very vocal with "excuse me's" and "please let me through's" to the point of being uber-polite with that nasally, begging tone. but in china....not a peep.
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Post  Posted: July 09, 2009 - 04:28 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

It's a lack of common basic social skills

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bleepingbleeper wrote:
yeah, don't understand why locals don't have the courtesy or the courage to speak up and say a simple, "excuse me." instead, they try to slide into gaps, invariably hitting you with a bag or shoe as they're passing, or they just push.


It's because there's no one to speak to. They don't see you as a person, they see you as a dead not-moving object. Like they do with everything...
If other people see them talking to let's say "a door", then they'd lose face wouldn't they... "Wow, see that guy is talking to a door... he must be a bit off..."

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tomnoddy wrote:
.... leading companies in china.

it's hard to lead from the caboose - unless you're going backward.
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i don't smoke.

Then you must do drugs ? Otherwise what causes these delusions ? This is a country that can't even design a bus station.
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victorinchina wrote:

One thing that really annoys me on the long distance trains and airplanes are when you got an aisle seat, and you get to your seat first. Then 5 minutes later, here comes this guy/girl looking desperatly at their window seat. Rocking back and forth a few times, trying to decide what to do next. You're sitting there looking up at them, waiting for a "excuse me, I'm by the window". Instead they try to walk over you, squeeze in the 1" gap between your knees and the seat in front of you.
"Now piss off, and let me get out, so you can get in!"


Exact opposite happened to me. I had the window seat and asked the person in the aisle seat if he could let me through. Instead of stepping out he just repositioned his legs to let me get by. My backside was facing him as I was stepping over him to get to my seat, so I squeezed out a juicy fart in front of his face.

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Post  Posted: July 10, 2009 - 01:02 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

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People here are so stupid it's hard to be properly prepared. No matter how dumb you think they are, they go one level lower.


Sad but kind of true I guess. Its not exactly stupidity, not in the sense if IQ or anything, more like a cultural inadequacy to the world. And they have the same problem among themselves, in Chinese, in China. Its has nothing to do with us foreigners. Very interesting.

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victorinchina wrote:
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It's because there's no one to speak to. They don't see you as a person, they see you as a dead not-moving object. Like they do with everything...
If other people see them talking to let's say "a door", then they'd lose face wouldn't they... "Wow, see that guy is talking to a door... he must be a bit off..."


Man, where on earth do you get this stuff?? I've seen some uninformed nonsense before, but this gem takes the cake.
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Man, where on earth do you get this stuff?? I've seen some uninformed nonsense before, but this gem takes the cake.

So how do you explain it then?

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Post  Posted: July 10, 2009 - 01:49 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

For Chinese rudeness, I don't think there's too many cultures on the planet that can relate to life in China over the last 50 years. That's 2 generations of stuff. That affects one's daily actions, they're learned habits, not inherent traits.

But Victor's analogy does fit on the surface. Clever young chap that Victor, one day he'll be working for Cambronne.
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Laughing

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So how do you explain it then?


I think the explanation is very simple. Unlike in the west where squeezing past someone without saying something like excuse me would be considered very rude, in China it is not. It is simply culturally acceptable to squeeze past without saying anything.
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^ Hmm... I guess that explanation works too. Although I think mine is better Wink

Seeing we are sharing now, I would like to know what your explanation for Chinese people's inability to walk straight is?
My theory is a nation wide inner ear infection many many years ago, which wasn't treated properly and since turned chronic.
It will also be passed on from mother to offspring...

Please share your view Very Happy

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I suspect the explanation is actually you are one not walking in a straight line thus forcing other people off their path Wink
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^ Ha ha... You are right... It is in fact me who is doing the "2 steps forward, 4 steps to the left, 1 step back, 2 steps right, stop turn 270 degree and start again" routine each time I'm out walking... Wink

(Good to see you didn't lose your sense of humor mate... Wink )

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victorinchina wrote:
^ Ha ha... You are right... It is in fact me who is doing the "2 steps forward, 4 steps to the left, 1 step back, 2 steps right, stop turn 270 degree and start again" routine each time I'm out walking... Wink

(Good to see you didn't lose your sense of humor mate... Wink )


Are you referring to the Chinese quickstep? Wink

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Perhaps thats why dancing seems to be such a common past time in the parks? Wink
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Yeah, you never know Wink

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Like your avatar by the way. Don't know why it looks so familiar. Wasn't it the cover on an LP album, like decades ago. Racking my brain.

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Andreas wrote:
victorinchina wrote:
^ Ha ha... You are right... It is in fact me who is doing the "2 steps forward, 4 steps to the left, 1 step back, 2 steps right, stop turn 270 degree and start again" routine each time I'm out walking... Wink

(Good to see you didn't lose your sense of humor mate... Wink )


Are you referring to the Chinese quickstep? Wink


I call it the Shanghai Sidewinder.
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