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zanderion
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July 09, 2009 - 06:47 PM |
 
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I'm willing to get a genuine CBSat system if one exists. But you gave me the impression that it's not for end-users.
So is there a way I can get a genuine CBSat subscription?
I'd prefer one that isn't bankrupt yet given a choice.
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lifebook
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I have 4 dishes currently, 3 working, 1 out of subscription, 2 facing SE and 2 facing SW. The 4 dishes are connected to 2 Bolt receivers, one in my living room and one in my bedroom. The setup is wired so that I can view all channels so long as I put the relevant cards in the respective receivers.
I used to have dream and Dsky from the SW dishes, and asiasat with free to view channels and hua ren from Taiwan for the SE dishes.
Today only Dsky and Asiasat are working, dream is dead and hua ren is out of subscription.
I am moving to another villa in Sept and I would like to know if you have a solution for me. What I would like to have as a new setup are 2 dishes, 2 receivers, 1 in living room and 1 in bedroom but both can watch all channels provided the card is in the respective receiver.
For the channels, I would like to have all the dream channels, PGA tour, Channel news Asia, and the complete Hua Ren channels.
From what I read from the HBOCN website, it seems that they have the ideal solution in terms of subscription except that I would not have History and Animal Planet. It seems that HBOCN is a good compromise for Dream and Asiasat free to view channels combined into one whilst I can have Hua Ren as the other.
What do you suggest? I would like to have a legit system and setup and I do not mind paying the money so long as I get good service and no hazzles. |
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 07, 2009 - 08:13 PM |
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| lifebook wrote: |
| What do you suggest? I would like to have a legit system and setup and I do not mind paying the money so long as I get good service and no hazzles. |
Animal planet and history are on Dream TV.
The DSKY package card costs about US$180 per year from DSKY and you can buy direct from them in China.
Dream TV costs rmb2450 with a new decoder with 12 months subscription.
You can email shanghaidream for Dream TV genuine deocders ruiky@public1.sta.net.cn
Asiasat3 is of course free to air.
However you cannot put the DSKY cards in the Dream TV receivers so you can still use your BOLT boxes for those. You can renew your DSKY cards directly from DSKY. email service@dsky.com.tw (unless of course you have pirate cards which are commonly sold by satelltie agents in China )
You would now have 4 receivers not 2 as no loger can the pirate bolt boxes access Dream TV and the Dream TV cards are married to the CRYSTAL BOXES or HOMECAST decoders they come in. So you can not move the Dream TV cards to different receivers they will only work in the ONE recoever they are PAIRED to.
So you could choose DSKY and Asiasat3 in your BOLTS and Dream TV in the Dream TV receivers |
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lifebook
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Aug 07, 2009 - 08:38 PM |
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Does the Dream solution include PGA tour or any golf channel?
I noted that HBOCN claims that they have pga tour, asisat channels and the Dsky channels included in their solution. Is this true? |
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 08, 2009 - 12:16 AM |
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| lifebook wrote: |
Does the Dream solution include PGA tour or any golf channel?
I noted that HBOCN claims that they have pga tour, asisat channels and the Dsky channels included in their solution. Is this true? |
From their pirated systems on the ICBALE HK satellite yes. Not on Dream TV.
The reason they now do not offer pirated Dream TV is because Dream TV has changed encryption systems to prevent piracy.
Icable is soon to follow and cut off the pirated boxes as well.
There are other satellites that have all the European US PGA Asian and other live golf tournaments. However these require large 2.4m dishes so not practical for most.
However there are alternative systems avialable where you do not need dishes.
Why dont you ask your satelltie provider that you want to have the genuine decoders with the genuine pays cards in them for Icable and Dream TV and see what the costs are.
There are many providers carrying live golf which is not always shown on the PGA channel. BUt we do get everly live PGA event and also womens golf and other non PGA events.
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hanguolaohu
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Aug 24, 2009 - 05:53 PM |
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Can you install a Dream system for an apartment in Beijing? |
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hanguolaohu
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Aug 24, 2009 - 05:57 PM |
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That last question was directed to user SatelliteTV. Also does the Hava system work with a Mac? |
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 24, 2009 - 07:50 PM |
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| hanguolaohu wrote: |
| That last question was directed to user SatelliteTV. Also does the Hava system work with a Mac? |
Unfortunately not MAC compatible it is Windows.
However we do have SLINGBOXES for those who want MAC systems.
Streaming speeds again are on 2mb upload so expext to get around 1800 - 2000kpbs
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hanguolaohu
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Aug 24, 2009 - 10:51 PM |
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Again, do you guys install satellites for apartments in Beijing?
I have a Mac Mini that I could possibly dual boot Windows on.
If I had a Slingbox, wouldn't I have to connect that to my Cable TV box in the USA? Or can it capture streaming media from other sources?
Image didn't come through.
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 25, 2009 - 11:18 AM |
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| hanguolaohu wrote: |
Again, do you guys install satellites for apartments in Beijing? I have a Mac Mini that I could possibly dual boot Windows on.
If I had a Slingbox, wouldn't I have to connect that to my Cable TV box in the USA? Or can it capture streaming media from other sources?
Image didn't come through. Thanks. |
A sling or HAVA can take in from many sources, satellite TV ( which is what I use ) cable TV or other inputs. Your issue will always be the GFWC and your upload speeds. My fiber links straight into China and there for no firewall issues. My clients are getting speeds at max 2100kpbs in China.
I do not install dishes in Beijing.
Also what content do you want as Dream does not carry US sports like this monrings pre season NFL game. |
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hanguolaohu
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Aug 25, 2009 - 04:56 PM |
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In order for a Slingbox or Hava to work, don't I have to have a working cable or Satellite box overseas like in the US in order to stream it to China? I don't have that currently, so then there's no point in getting those machines right? Unless they can access streaming content from other sources.
OK.
I like movies (HBO, Showtime), culture (Bravo, Discovery), the BBC. Maybe programs from Korea, Japan or Taiwan if subtitled in English. One of the few men who doesn't watch sports, unless it's the UFC :-p |
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 25, 2009 - 11:21 PM |
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| hanguolaohu wrote: |
In order for a Slingbox or Hava to work, don't I have to have a working cable or Satellite box overseas like in the US in order to stream it to China? I don't have that currently, so then there's no point in getting those machines right? Unless they can access streaming content from other sources.
OK.
I like movies (HBO, Showtime), culture (Bravo, Discovery), the BBC. Maybe programs from Korea, Japan or Taiwan if subtitled in English. One of the few men who doesn't watch sports, unless it's the UFC :-p |
Slings or HAVA can only access content given to them. This is what my business is... providing slingbox or hava streaming with content.
132 TV Channels... sports is not what most of my clients are after.
Also an additional 75 satellite radio channels... TV Channels listed below.
NEWS
Australia Network, Aljazeera, Ariang TV, SKY NEWS UK, BBC World, Bloomberg Asia, Bloomberg Europe , CNBC, CNN, CCTV9, Dawn News, EXPRESS NEWS, NHK World, NHK PREMIUM, TV5 Asia, TV5 Afrique, CANAL +
MUSIC
Chick Channel, Channel V, Channel O, Fashion TV, MTV CHINA, MTV EUROPE, True Music
SERIES
AXN, AXN BEYOND, Channel E, E News / Learn, Inside E, XZYT, Mnet Series, Mnet East, Mnet West Star World, True Series, BBC Entertainment, BBC Lifestyle, Hallmark Asia, Hallmark International, FETV
MOVIES
Action X, Cinemax, HBO, HBO Family, HBO Hits, HBO Signature, MNET STARS, Mnet Movies 1, Mnet movies 2, MGM Movies, Mnet Stars, Star Movies, Turner Classic Movies Asia, True Movie Hits, True Film Asia
KIDS
Cartoon Network Asia, Cartoon Network UK, Disney Asia, Disney Playhouse, Disney South Africa, Spark, GO, Kaidy, Nickelodean
RELIGIOUS CGN TV, EWTN, RHEMA, GOD ASIA, SUPREME MASTER
EDUCATIONAL
Africa Mag, Gem TV, NET25, Knowledge Channel, Animal Planet, EXPLORE 1, EXPLORE 2, EXPLORE 3, Discovery International, Discovery Asia, Discovery Health, Discovery Science, Discovery Travel, Discovery Turbo, The Travel Channel, National Geographic International, National Geograpic Asia, National Geopgrapic Adventure, Zone Reality, History Asia, History International
SPORTS
All Sports Network ( NHL NFL College Football College Basketball ) Supersports 1 - 7, SUPERSPORTS3 NIGERIA, ESPN International, Tsports (thai) DD Sports, True Sports 1 - 5, Truesports Extra 1-2. ESPN STAR THAILAND, CLUB CHANNELS.. Arsenal, Chelsea Liverpool, Manchester United
[b]THAI ( as sometimes carry extra sports games such as the FA CUP GAMES ) CH3 CH5 CH7 CH9 NBT 13 |
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hanguolaohu
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Aug 26, 2009 - 01:07 AM |
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Whoa Satellite TV, you just rocked my world! I consider myself pretty tech savvy, but I had NO IDEA this sort of streaming service even existed! Whenever I visit my friend in the US who has a Slingbox, it's plain annoying when his brother who lives in a different state starts controlling his TV. Never saw the potential of this gadget till now.
I'm very interested in your Mpeg4 streaming service. I live in Beijing but I assume that the service will work anywhere in the world. I bought a Mac Mini with a Blackmagic video recorder to act as a DVR as Tivo doesn't seem to work here. Would you recommend a Slingbox or a Hava? I could dual boot Win XP onto the Mac Mini in case the Hava is better. Or I could potentially use the Mac Mini with the Blackmagic video recorder in conjunction with the Slingbox as well. Should I purchase the Hava or Slingbox myself or do you ship one to China?
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 26, 2009 - 11:08 AM |
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| hanguolaohu wrote: |
| I'm very interested in your Mpeg4 streaming service. I live in Beijing but I assume that the service will work anywhere in the world. I bought a Mac Mini with a Blackmagic video recorder to act as a DVR as Tivo doesn't seem to work here. Would you recommend a Slingbox or a Hava? I could dual boot Win XP onto the Mac Mini in case the Hava is better. Or I could potentially use the Mac Mini with the Blackmagic video recorder in conjunction with the Slingbox as well. Should I purchase the Hava or Slingbox myself or do you ship one to China?Thanks. |
HAVA, as it already has a remote recording ability with a TIVO system inbuilt, somethings slings do not. We stream to clients worldwide.
The HAVA is not shipped to your side but stays in the server room where the satellite feeds and fiber uploading are provided. I suggest you read the two forum links below they have all the information in there.
http://forum.taiwansatellite.tv/viewtopic.php?p=2118#2118
http://forum.taiwansatellite.tv/viewtopic.php?t=354 |
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iara
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Aug 26, 2009 - 03:34 PM |
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Dream TV cards are married to the CRYSTAL BOXES or HOMECAST decoders they come in. So you can not move the Dream TV cards to different receivers they will only work in the ONE recoever they are PAIRED to.
Hi Jim, so, Jie works with you here in Shanghai?
Also, the Homecast box still works with a new card? I thought it was just the Crystal box. A friend just called me telling that they are installing a new sat at her house, but the image isn;t good, and when she told me that the box was a Homecast, I told her IS FAKE!!
I have a dead BOLT, and 2 HOMECASTS, can I use it if I buy a real card??
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LadyofLeisure
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Aug 26, 2009 - 04:30 PM |
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Dream TV cards are married to the CRYSTAL BOXES or HOMECAST decoders they come in. So you can not move the Dream TV cards to different receivers they will only work in the ONE recoever they are PAIRED to.
Hi Jim, so, Jie works with you here in Shanghai?
Also, the Homecast box still works with a new card? I thought it was just the Crystal box. A friend just called me telling that they are installing a new sat at her house, but the image isn;t good, and when she told me that the box was a Homecast, I told her IS FAKE!!
I have a dead BOLT, and 2 HOMECASTS, can I use it if I buy a real card??
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Iara,
Jie told me that her Dream Boxes will be in this week or next. You might want to contact her soon so you can get on the waitlist. I'm waiting for one more and she said that she would personally come out to Jin Qiao to bring it to me. She is a really nice lady and gives really good customer service....
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 26, 2009 - 04:55 PM |
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Dream TV cards are married to the CRYSTAL BOXES or HOMECAST decoders they come in. So you can not move the Dream TV cards to different receivers they will only work in the ONE recoever they are PAIRED to.
Hi Jim, so, Jie works with you here in Shanghai?
Also, the Homecast box still works with a new card? I thought it was just the Crystal box. A friend just called me telling that they are installing a new sat at her house, but the image isn;t good, and when she told me that the box was a Homecast, I told her IS FAKE!!
I have a dead BOLT, and 2 HOMECASTS, can I use it if I buy a real card??
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HOMECAST decoders are genuine Dream TV decoders. They would have been brought up form the Philippines and smuggled into China.
Not fake you can see they have the genuine Dream TV cards. HOmecast decoders yes use the Green Nagra3 cards. |
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iara
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Thanks Lady, I already got my Crystal box from Jie (i.e, my landlady did).
But Jim, I have 21Homecast decoder (landlady told me it was genuine, and once she even call to Philippines from my home to set it up), but after august it died.
Ok, I know it had to be renewed every august, and maybe its why its dead now.
So, whit this genuine box, what do I do? buy a new card?? |
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 26, 2009 - 06:07 PM |
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Thanks Lady, I already got my Crystal box from Jie (i.e, my landlady did). But Jim, I have 21Homecast decoder (landlady told me it was genuine, and once she even call to Philippines from my home to set it up), but after august it died.
Ok, I know it had to be renewed every august, and maybe its why its dead now. So, with this genuine box, what do I do? buy a new card?? |
If your homecast has the old BLUE card then your card needs replacing.
This should have been done by your agent who sold you the boxes as they all knew this was going to happen. It is up to your agent to replace your cards as you would have paid up subscriptions. |
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iara
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Aug 26, 2009 - 06:22 PM |
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It's more like a purple than blue...
I have no clue who sold it to my landlady, but will let her know about it.
Thanks again. |
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 26, 2009 - 06:26 PM |
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It's more like a purple than blue...I have no clue who sold it to my landlady, but will let her know about it.
Thanks again. |
YEs thats the old NAGRA1 card that Dream TV notified would stop working.
Your homecast can be upgraded by the blue card needs to be returned to Dream TV to get an exchange. |
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Aug 27, 2009 - 11:09 AM |
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| wizard_of_oz wrote: |
I got a satellite service from HBOCN in February. A couple of days ago I lost several stations of importance to me. Now they say I need to "upgrade" and pay more than I did originally to get these channels back. 
They have a users forum and I see that this happens from time to time.
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wizard_of_oz, sorry that you can't watch dream tv, more information in here: http://www.dreamsatellitetv.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=339&extra=&page =1 |
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LordChatfield
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Sep 01, 2009 - 02:38 PM |
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It's more like a purple than blue...
I have no clue who sold it to my landlady, but will let her know about it.
Thanks again. |
That purple thing is the end of that sausage thing between your legs that you tug on while watching the porn channels on the Taiwan satellite. |
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iara
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Sep 02, 2009 - 09:58 AM |
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| LordChatfield wrote: |
| iara wrote: |
It's more like a purple than blue...
I have no clue who sold it to my landlady, but will let her know about it.
Thanks again. |
That purple thing is the end of that sausage thing between your legs that you tug on while watching the porn channels on the Taiwan satellite. |
Unlike you, I like real sex, and I have a quite hot husband, so dont need any porn channel or "purple sausage thing".
And seems that you are the one playing with purple sausages, but instead of have it between your legs, it's stucked in your a*s!
Get a life! |
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LordChatfield
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oooh touched a nerve did I???
Typical Expat housewife who thinks her **** dont stink |
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