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8lrr8
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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 05:14 PM

^ doubtful. highly.

Shangstar

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 05:34 PM

it might depend on how active one is. If youre in to serious sports, and sweat a lot, then the salts you lose through the sweat wont be replaced by distilled water alone, which apparently, does cause hair loss.

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8lrr8
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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 06:55 PM

^ u forgot the part where by eating a healthy diet, u're getting all the vitamins/minerals your body needs regardless of one's physical activities.

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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 07:14 PM

yeah i thought about that. I have a friend who suffered from it here in Shanghai - he was a mad runner. Eating well etc is good, but when sweating a lot you lose salts fast, eating alone wont replace the salts fast enough, they need to be in the water to be quickly replaced. With food, it needs to be digested first. over time, the time lapse, apparentlty, damages hair folicles. We're talking about serious sports people, especially in the summer here. Sure if you dont do too much serious exercise, and eat a balanced diet, you can probably live on distilled I presume.

....personally, I am a slob and drink boiled tap water! Nothing wrong with me yet. I have 6 fingers on each hand just like everyone else.

8lrr8
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Posted: Oct 12, 2009 - 07:25 PM

^ if u cover 5 miles/day, 7 days/wk, then yeah, i can see how it *might* be a prob. but for 99.99% of us, drinking RO water is nothing to worry about.

never mind the fact running 5miles/day isnt good for u to begin w/...

tihZ_hO
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Posted: Nov 01, 2009 - 03:24 PM

Shangstar wrote:

Doesnt steam based distillation also remove all nutrients and minerals? I have heard relying too much on this eventually causes your hair to fall out and your nails to go brittle.

No, not true. Another name for distilled water is called Rain. Don't believe the marketing hype. If your diet is SO poor you need trace minerals from water you have more urgent problems.

C'mon water is friggen water! What's the problem aside from marketing misinformation and too much time on your hands to worry about dumb things?

Some cities have banned bottle water as it is too damaging to the environment.

"San Francisco, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Chicago, St Louis and many other cities have recently jumped on the "ban bottled water" bandwagon, making it illegal to spend city dollars on bottled water.

The realization that bottled water is seldom of higher quality than tap water has caused a major shift in public opinion. "It causes 60 million plastic bottles A DAY to be manufactured, transported and then disposed of in U.S. landfills. It's killing our planet, and for no good reason..."
-Eric Olsen, Natural Resources Defense Council

Bottled Water's environmental impact:

* 60 Million plastic bottles a day are disposed of in America alone!
* Massive amounts of greenhouse gases are produced from manufacturing the plastic bottles.
* Millions of gallons of fuel are wasted daily transporting filtered tap water across America and around the world.
* It requires 3 times as much water to make the bottle as it does to fill it... it is an exceptionally wasteful industry."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/09/australians-ban-bottled-w_n_2 28678.html

THINK who sells bottle water? Drink manufactures such as Coca-Cola and Pepsi. Millions and millions of dollars are spent each week on advertising campaigns to give the perception that these bottled waters come from some sparkling mountain spring or pristine underground aquifer, when in reality many of them come from a municipal water system just like your tap water does. (Duh) Both Pepsi's Aquafina and Coke's Dasani are bottled at one of many bottling plants across North America where municipal tap water is used as the source, as is the case with most leading brands.

Let's worry about organic farming screwing up the world instead. Chemical free my arse!

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Posted: Nov 17, 2009 - 11:28 PM

For people from this community who are going to have their sample water tested at DirectWay store at 511 West Beijing road, please make sure of enough water before setting out. And to reach good communication effect, it will be helpful to make an appointment previously with some of the English representatives of DirectWay. For more details, please PM me.

fulltrack

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Posted: Dec 09, 2009 - 10:06 AM

^ And you all are whining about the quality of water here! hahaha
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34323634/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/

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Humac
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Posted: Dec 11, 2009 - 03:33 PM

I've just moved into a new place that has a Pentair water filter system under the sink. The landlord assures me that this makes Shanghai's water safe to drink. I'm not so sure. Does anyone have any experience about this system and if it really does make tap water safe?

Although, having read the above article mentioned by fulltrack, maybe I worry too much...

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Posted: Dec 14, 2009 - 10:07 AM

Humac wrote:

Does you Pentair filtration system include a tank for collecting water? According to what I know, Pentair has ultra filtration filters and Reverse Osmosis filters. The latter will always comply with a tank and is much more reliable than systems in other kinds, especially in Shanghai. If your water filter can be rectified as a RO system, I can assure you that it does make water safe to drink and also for other uses. And if it's not RO system, I suggest you to use it for just cleaning.

(Once I saw an expat who had sent his water samples from his Canature and Pentair-Everpure systems to the CPG inspection center for a test. From the test reports, the sampled filteres water does not reach the standards as what it should be through the systems. By the way, most of the systems must be maintained regularly. Otherwise, their efficiency will deteriorate greatly. Some examples you may also hear are about the places like Lanson Place in XinTianDi and Froest Manor in Minhang district.)

Humac
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Posted: Dec 14, 2009 - 10:30 AM

Englishwang, many thanks for that detailed reply. As far as I can see there are only two cylinders under the sink, about the size of small fire extinguishers. There's a label on one but impossible to read because of the way they've been installed. I guess when you say tank you mean something larger?

Anyway I'll stick to using it to clean vegetables at the moment.

Englishwang

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Posted: Dec 15, 2009 - 03:39 PM

Humac wrote:

Yes. The tank for domestic use is usually at about 2.5 G or larger than that. And to make the purified water with good taste and necessary minerals, it sometimes contains a certain kind of precious stone like Tourmaline to remineralize the water and adjust PH range of water.

jay_dee

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Posted: Dec 24, 2009 - 12:17 PM

Those are probably the filter cartridges, one for dirt/sediment (cellulose) and the other is for chlorine/taste/odor (activated charcoal/carbon).
http://www.kleenwater.com/ <--- for info only
Various sytems, RO, filters, ion-exchange, DI, etc.

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Posted: Dec 24, 2009 - 02:38 PM

8lrr8 wrote:

There are some questions about the pH of water we consume and many reports do indicate that a mildly basic (alkaline) pH water closer to that of much of the human body (though obviously not the digestive system) makes it easier to absorb and work its way back out of the system. Water processed thru reverse osmosis brings water to its most solvent form which is a mildly acidic pH usually around 6. Not that the environment here in China isnt carcinogenic enough as it is but given this, your 99.99% number is probably flawed. Then again, we probablu cannott attribute all the cancer cases to any particular cause i suppose... as a travel advisory i once read from a travel service in the US basically said," Don't drink... anything, dont eat anything, and don't breathe the air. have a nice trip in China."

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Posted: Jan 17, 2010 - 09:03 AM

That's why a lot of people who tour China bring jars of Peanut Butter from Home....

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kulashw

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Posted: Mar 04, 2010 - 09:42 PM

Hi, I am new to shanghai and interested to know if following has been found ..

1) a drinking water filter with Revers osmosis that will meet US FDA and NSA requirements of 96% polutant free, including heavy metals
2) a shower filter that will allow removal of chlorine from my bathing/shower water
3) a simple tester to check water quality at least in a ver basic sense to make sure the filters do what they are supposed to.

Englishwang

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Posted: Mar 04, 2010 - 11:19 PM

kulashw wrote:

Have not you read through the whole thread? You will find
1) Atlantis Drinking Water Purifier for your drinking water;
2) ShowerBaby Chlorine filter for your shower;
3) TDS meter to test sample water clean or not from its reading.

Though there are a lot of RO systems available in the market, Atlantis Drinking Water Purifier is one of the best choices which can make the tap water truly conform to healthy water standards of being clean, mildly alkaline, small clustered by water molecules and with necessary minerals. After being tried out over 2 and a half years, it attracts more and more expat families' attention now.

As of ShowerBaby, it removes over 95% chlorine continually, much farther than other similar water filters made of carbon and makes the water soft enough to provide you a refreshing shower experience. More info about these products info can be seen at http://en.obusiness.cn/yhhnj/en/index.jsp.

While for TDS tester, there are some interesting links you can visit like http://www.amazon.com/HM-Digital-Pocket-TDS-4-Quality/dp/B0002T6L5M/re f=pd_sbs_ol_1.