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sinned69
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motorcycle and motor scooter Q & A (excluding electric scooters)
NB: these rules may or may not apply to all relevant towns, cities, provinces of China. While many of the following applies to Shanghai, not all points do.
* To ride or drive any gasoline/diesel/gas powered vehicle in PRC one must have a valid motor vehicle drivers license, and this applies to all motorcycles & motor scooters. The exception is electric powered scooters, where a drivers license is not required (though electric bikes must still have a valid vehicle licence plate).
* Nearly all vehicles are required to be licensed and carry a valid vehicle licence at all times when driven in public areas/roads. Exceptions apply to military/police vehicles, which foreigners are NOT allowed to be in charge of or drive.
* In Shanghai you can ride with plates from other cities after 8:00pm and on weekends. This is also the case in some of the other cities in PRC where motorcycles are banned.
* Police can be very strict, and will confiscate illegal motorcycles/scooters.
* Local Shanghai vehicle plate license cost 17,000RMB (price fluctuates often). Plates for <49cc bikes may cost less, again prices fluctuate.
* May only licence motorcycle with Shanghai issued receipts (fa piao). Thus bikes bought legally outside Shanghai may not be able to get a legal SH licence plate with an our of town fa piao.
* There are no black licence plates issued for motorcycles in Shanghai.
* Black plates are provided only in Beijing and a few other Chinese cities.
* Each city has different requirements and tolerance for motorcycle riders. Check what applies for you where you intend to ride.
* Why do some shops offer Hebei plates? 99% of those are fake, the China license registry is not a nation wide system thus some people will sell fake plates and it is very hard for people to find out if they are real or not. Shops that sell those usually have no access to legal bikes with proper documents and these bikes cost more. Many Hebei Plated bikes are from questionable sources. ***BE WARNED***
* While riding, BEWARE there are people that are willing to jump in front of you to make a few hundred RMB, so you better have proper documents when the police arrives on scene.
* There are rules as to where and what streets are open for motorcycles. Please check before you ride your bike.
* The police do stop riders and check for licences/licenses. Make sure you carry your registration (blue) booklet.
* Always carry your drivers license when riding any motorcycle in China. If you're stopped and don't have it, the bike can be confiscated.
* 3rd party insurance is compulsory, and is renewable every year.
* New motorcycles, must be inspected for road worthiness every 2 years for the first 4 years from initial purchase, then annually thereafter for a further several years before being inspected every 6 months thereafter. Always check these requirements in the city you are in as these rules may vary throughout China.
* Having a car drivers license does not transfer or mean that one can ride a motorcycle legally in China, same as it doesn't apply in most other countries.
* A standard Chinese motorcycle drivers (riders) licence does not allow one to ride/drive the 3 wheeled sidecars (ChangJiang) BMW copies. This requires a "D license" - 3 wheeled sidecar motorcycle license which is a separate category.
*There are several different categories of motorcycle drivers/riders license; D, E & F. 'D' license allows rider to ride all types of motorcycles including the 3 wheeled sidecar, whereas 'E' allows the rider to ride any 2 wheeled motorcycle of any engine capacity. F restrict the holder to engine capacity/type.
* Motorcycles are banned in a number of cities in China, usually within certain boundaries and/or within certain hours, always check what restrictions apply. Some Chinese cities impose outright motorcycle bans period.
* >250cc are usually motorcycles that have been imported, and need to have special documents/taxes/duties paid to apply for the appropriate and applicable certificates and licence plate. ***BEWARE*** some motorcycles >250cc are smuggled into China and may have a fake plate (see Hebei licence plate warning above).
* <49cc motorised bikes can use bicycle lanes in Shanghai. Caution This rule may not apply elsewhere.
* Motorcycles are banned from the Expressways period! irrespective of engine capacity.
* Motorcycles, motor scooters irrespective of engine capacity do not have to pay tolls on any of the inter-provincial highways or any other tolled roads, with the exception of the expressways where motorcycles are banned. See above comment.
* What’s the difference between Yellow motorcycle licence plates and Blue motorcycle licence plates?
--Blue plates are for motorcycles/motor scooters with engine capacity 49cc or lower.
-- Yellow plates are for motorcycles/motor scooters with engine capacity 50cc and greater
* In Shanghai motorcycles/motor scooters with Blue licence plates travel on the HuangPu river ferries at half the cost of bikes with Yellow plates.
* Blue licence plated motorcycles/motor scooters come under same category as bicycles (TIC!) and can use roads and areas specifically designated for bicycles (i.e. bicycle lanes) in Shanghai.
* For a reasonable English explanation of the various road rules/traffic law in PR China, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_law though it lacks good references it provides good oversight.
* Useful information on driver's licensing (Beijing) see here www.bjjtgl.gov.cn |
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D.ORiGiNAL
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Thanks for all the information! |
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blondesands
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Great info, thanks Sinned69. Do you know how to check (online?) whether the license plate is ligit or not? Thanks |
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compsolutions
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Some additional notes:
Any bike over 50cc will require a motorbike licence to drive whether it is a motorbike or not.
Additional differences between the blue/yellow plates:
Blue plate - not allowed to carry passengers.
Yellow plate - allowed to carry passengers. Note that Yellow plates are functionally equivalent to car licence plates, and can be swapped for car plates, so pricing is on par with car plates.
Blue / Yellow plates are gas only.
LPG scooters require a plate. This is different from the Yellow / Blue plate - those are for Gas powered bikes.
Gas powered bikes with Blue plates are currently illegal to register/ use within the inner ringroad.
You can register/use legally *outside* the ringroad (but within the city limits).
If you do use them inside the ringroad and are stopped, you will be fined 200RMB, and your bike may be confiscated.
Electric bikes also have some caveats - Shanghai will not allow registration of bikes over a certain voltage/ampage. This is set rather low, so most bikes in shops cannot be legally registered within Shanghai.
Neighbouring Jiangsu allows registration though, and most shops are providing a Jiangsu registration with the bike for a nominal fee (usually around RMB200). Currently this is acceptable to traffic police if stopped (and you can provide all the necessary paperwork required), but may be problematic in future. Be aware of this if you intend to purchase something.
See my Electric Moped Sticky for current details on Electrically driven moped/bike/scooters.
Licence plates can be checked via the jiaotong website. You will need someone who can read Chinese to assist.
http://www.shjtaq.com
Contact numbers for the different area's:
http://www.shjtaq.com/dwfwck/dwfwck.asp
The Shanghai government is trying to phase out polluting bikes - no more gas powered bikes licences are being issued, and LPG licences are no longer being issued.
LPG licences will be completely phased out by 2012.
There is a heavy emphasis on moving people toward either electric bikes, normal pedal bicycles, or public transport.
Shanghai Motorbike Law from the Government website:
http://www.shanghai.gov.cn/shanghai/node17256/node17413/node17423/user object6ai837.html
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(Approved by the Shanghai Municipal People's Government on September 30, 1993, promulgated by the Shanghai Municipal Public Security Bureau on October 9, 1993, and amended in accordance with the Decision on Amending “ Interim Provisions of Shanghai Municipality on Motorbike Administration” by the Shanghai Municipal People's Government on April 5, 1997)
Article 1
The present Provisions are formulated in accordance with the relevant laws and regulations, and with the actual situation in Shanghai taken into consideration, for the purpose of strengthening motorbike administration, ensuring the safe and smooth passage of traffic, and protecting the legitimate rights and interests of the citizens.
Article 2
Motorbikes on the roads in Shanghai shall abide by the present Provisions.
Article 3
A “ motorbike” in the present Provisions refers to a bicycle that uses a small gasoline motor but can also be footpedaled.
Article 4
A motorbike shall meet the following main technical requirements:
(1)The functional volume of the gasoline motor shall not exceed 36 cubic centimeter;
(2)The maximum design speed shall not exceed 24 kilometers per hour;
(3)The main safety devices, such as the brake, the handlebar, the bell or horn, the head light and back reflector, shall be adequate equipped and in good condition; and
(4)The wheels shall be 510-660 millimeter in diameter.
Provisions of the State with respect to the standards of motorbikes,
if there are any, shall be complied with.
Article 5
Motorbikes that are to be on the roads of this Municipality shall undergo an examination by the traffic control department under the district or county public security bureau. Motorbike owners shall apply for a motorbike license (including the numberplate and the rider's license). Without a valid motorbike license, no motorbikes shall be allowed to go on the roads in Shanghai.
Article 6
Owners of motorbikes listed in the “ Catalogue of Motorbikes Permitted to Apply for a Motorbike License” in Shanghai (hereinafter referred to as the 'Catalog') may apply for a motorbike license.
Manufacturers who want to have their motorbikes listed in the Catalogue should submit to the traffic control department under the Municipal Public Security Bureau the registered trademarks of their products, product quality inspection reports and technical appraisal reports issued by bicycle qualityinspection authorities at or above provincial level. The motorbikes that pass the inspection will be listed in the Catalogue, which will be made known to the public at regular intervals by the traffic control department under the Municipal Public Security Bureau. Motorbikes that fail to pass for a second time the quality test administered on a selective basis by the municipal technical supervision department shall be removed form the Catalogue by the traffic control department under the Municipal Public Security Bureau.
Article 7
Before concluding a motorbike transaction, the dealer selling motorbikes not listed in the Catalogue shall inform the buyer in an effective way that the product is not permitted to apply for a motorbike license in Shanghai.
Article 8
Motorbike owners applying for a Shanghai motorbike license shall purchase thirdparty liability insurance from a Shanghai insurance company legally engaged in insurance business and approved by the competent authority in charge of insurance, and shall pay tax as required for use of vehicles.
Article 9
Motorbike owners applying for a Shanghai motorbike license shall be at least 16 in age and a permanent resident of Shanghai Municipality.
Article 10
Motorbike owners applying for a motorbike license under Article 12 (1) of the present Provisions shall submit the application to the traffic control department under the public security bureau of the district or county where his/her permanent residentstatus is registered.
When applying for a motorbike license, motorbike owners shall provide the following:
(1) the Shanghai resident identification card;
(2) Purchase receipt or other certificates to prove lawful ownership of the motorbike;
(3) The motorbike's quality certificate issued by the manufacturer;
(4) Certificate of third party liability insurance issued by an insurance company in Shanghai; and
(5) Receipt for the payment of tax for use of vehicles.
Article 11
Motorbike license plates shall have two types:
(1) Downtown plate;
(2) Suburban plate.
The plate shall be placed in the fixed position in front of the handlebar.
Article 12
Permanent residents in all the counties, as well as in Pudong New Area (areas beyond the Inner Ring Road), Baoshan District, Jiading District and Minhang District may apply for a suburban plate.
No more new downtown plates shall be granted.
When motorbikes bearing a downtown plate are discarded as useless, their plates will be canceled.
Article 13
Motorbikes bearing a downtown plate are allowed to go on all the roads in Shanghai Municipality. Motorbikes bearing a suburban plate are allowed to go only on the roads outside the Inner Ring Road. The traffic control department of the Municipal Public Security Bureau may narrow down the area in which passage of motorbikes is permitted according to the traffic condition on the road.
Motorbikes bearing a non Shanghai plate are not allowed to go on the roads in Shanghai Municipality.
Article 14
Motorbike riders shall be at least 16 in age with no physical defect that might hinder safe riding. They shall be allowed to ride on the road only after taking a training course on traffic rules and riding skills, passing a riding test administered by the traffic control department under the public security bureau and obtaining a rider's license. Those holding a motorcycle rider's license or a scooter rider's license shall be allowed to ride motorbikes.
Article 15
Motorbikes shall be examined within a set period of time by the traffic control department under the public security bureau. Motorbikes that fail to have or pass such examination shall not be allowed to go on the road.
Article 16
Motorbike riders shall take an examination within a set period of time by the traffic control department under the public security bureau. Motorbike riders who fail to take or pass such examination shall not be allowed to ride a motorbike.
Article 17
Motorbike owners applying for the motorbike license and the rider's license shall pay for both licenses and other fees as required. The items and amounts of these charges shall be proposed by the Municipal Public Security Bureau and then jointly examined and approved by the Municipal price control department and the finance department.
Article 18
This Municipality shall have a quota to limit the total number of motorbike suburban plates to be granted. The quota shall be jointly decided by the Municipal Public Security Bureau and the Municipal Environmental Protection Bureau.
The traffic control department under the municipal Public Security Bureau shall take measures to gradually phase out plate bearing motorbikes on the basis of their years of use and the condition of their safety and technology. The procedures to phase out the motorbikes shall be jointly formulated by the Municipal Public Security Bureau and other departments concerned and then approved by the Shanghai Municipal People's Government.
Article 19
Motorbike riders shall abide by the following rules:
(1) They shall have both the motorbike license and the rider's license with them when riding the motorbike;
(2) They shall not ride on the lane for motordriven vehicles only;
(3) They shall not ride motorbikes whose safety devices are inadequate or faulty;
(4) They shall not be allowed to enter into roads that are for motordriven vehicles only;
(5) They shall not carry other persons or tug other vehicles when riding;
(6) They shall not carry on their motorbikes objects which are more than 30 kilograms in weight, 1. 5 meters in height (measuring from ground level), or longer than the motorbike in length or wider than the handle bar in width;
(7) They shall not lend to others, nor alter or forge the motorbike license or the rider's license; and
( They shall not ride when drunk.
Article 20
Motorbikes bearing a downtown plate shall not be transferred to those whose permanentresident status is registered in the downtown districts other than the New Pudong Area (beyond the Inner Ring Road), Baoshan District, Jiading District and Minhang District. If the transferee is qualified to apply for a suburban plate, the plate shall be changed into a suburban plate after transfer of title.
Motorbikes bearing a suburban plate may be transferred to transferees qualified to apply for a suburban plate, but shall not be transferred to those whose permanentresident status is registered in the downtown area.
Motorbike transfer shall be done through stores for the trading of used articles, the used vehicle market, or an auctioneer. For the transfer of the motorbike, the transferee shall apply for transfer of title to the traffic control department under the public security bureau with his Shanghai Municipality identification card, certificate of transaction, and certificate proving that the transferor has surrendered his motorbike license.
Article 21
For violation of Article 5 or 14 of the present Provisions, a fine of no more than 200 yuan shall be imposed.
Article 22
For violation of Article 13 of the present Provisions, a fine of no more than 50 yuan shall be imposed.
Article 23
For violation of Article 15 or 16, a fine of no more than 100 yuan shall be imposed.
Article 24
For violation of Article 19(1) or (2), a fine of no more than 20 yuan shall be imposed, for violation of any of Article 19(3)(6), a fine of no more than yuan 50 shall be imposed, and for violation of Article 19(7) or (, a fine of no more than 200 yuan shall be imposed.
Article 25
Anyone who installs without permission a gasoline motor or other powerdriven device onto his/her bicycle in violation of the present Provisions shall be subject to a fine of no more than 200 yuan, and the gasoline motor or any other powerdriven device shall be confiscated.
Article 26
Any party who refuses to accept the administrative punishment imposed by the traffic control department under the public security bureau may, within 5 days after receiving the notice of punishment, appeal for reconsideration to the next higher public security department, which shall make a decision upon reconsideration within 5 days after receiving the application. If the party refuses to accept the decision made upon reconsideration, he/she may bring an action in the people's court within 5 days after receiving the notice of the decision made after reconsideration.
Article 27
Relevant matters not covered in the present Provisions shall be dealt with in accordance with other applicable rules and regulations on traffic administration.
Article 28
The Shanghai Municipal Public Security Bureau shall be responsible for the implementation and interpretation of the present Provisions.
Article 29
The present Provisions shall become effective on November 1, 1993. |
Note that this differs from whats written above by saying any out of state plate is *illegal* to drive within Shanghai. |
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tortje
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Hi there,
so the quote:
* In Shanghai you can ride with plates from other cities after 8:00pm and on weekends. This is also the case in some of the other cities in PRC where motorcycles are banned.
is not correct?
Where can I buy a 250cc scooter? I have searched for a retailer but cannot find any. Need the bike only inside Minhang to go for work.
Any help is appreciated.
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D.ORiGiNAL
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Oct 13, 2009 - 06:10 PM |
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Got stopped with my bike (600cc) on weekend. Told the guy what sinned69 told us. He said: BU KENENG!
So unless the guy doesnt know this rule(very possible) it s not correct. |
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daki86
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Where are good places that you can buy LPGS here in shanghai? I'm talking about all types regardless of cc. People bring up various things but there doesn't really seem to be anything specific in terms of addresses.
From what I understand, driving >50cc LPGs requires an E licence, and plates cost 10,000+? And driving with a licence but no plate can only result in getting fined? That's something I want to clarify, regarding penalties.
In fact, It would be beneficial if someone could sort out something like this (I figure you seem to know the most about this computersolutions):
List bike categories:
<50cc>50cc LPG ,Petrol<50cc> 50cc, etc.
Then location categories:
Within inner ring, between inner and middle ring, etc.
Time periods:
Weekends, past XX:XX, etc
Requirements:
Licence required? and type, Plate required? and type (+approx market cost)
Penalty:If checked by police w/ both, If in accident with both, If checked by police without either/both, If in accident without either/both
For example I will list out what I seem to understand based on all these posts I've been reading, and then people can correct me where I'm wrong (which I probably am in most cases)
(<50CC)
Region restriction: ALL
Time restriction: ALL
License? NO
Plate? GREEN, (no idea of cost)
Police check/accident with valid plate: ok
Police check w/o valid plate: 200RMB fine
Accident w/o valid plate: confiscation?
(>50CC LPG)
Region restriction: ALL
Time restriction: ALL
License? E type or higher
Plate? GREEN, (10,000RMB++)
Police check/accident w/ valid both: OK all regions
Police check w/ plate but no licence: No idea
Police check w/ licence but no plate: 200RMB fine?
Accident w/ plate but no licence: Deportation+jail?
Accident w/ licence but no plate: Vehicle confiscated only?
Accident w/o either: **** in the ass
Petrol<50cc>50cc
No idea about any laws here
This is just a rough idea. The point is so people can make judgements based on possible risks involved with each scenario and make decisions from there. For example, one scenario is if I can drive a 150cc LPG around without a legal plate (but with a valid licence) in the inner circle, and only risk getting fined 200RMB regardless of whether I get in an accident or just a regular check, I might decide to do that instead of buying an extremely expensive plate. |
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Nuhaus
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Oct 14, 2009 - 07:53 AM |
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| D.ORiGiNAL wrote: |
Got stopped with my bike (600cc) on weekend. Told the guy what sinned69 told us. He said: BU KENENG!
So unless the guy doesnt know this rule(very possible) it s not correct. |
Why did he stop you? Where were you riding?
Which of the many rules Sinned69 posted above were you discussing?
I have a 400CC and a 150CC bike both registered in Jiangsu. I have not been pulled over yet (been riding in Shanghai/ Jiangsu for about a year), but I mostly drive outside the third ring road.
The previous owner of my 400CC bike got pulled over and had the bike temporarily confiscated for driving on a restricted road in Pudong. He had to pay a fine and renew his insurance. |
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D.ORiGiNAL
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I was driving in Zhongshan park on a road where bikes are not allowed (changning road).
My office is near Plaza 66 so I go to work everyday with my bike. Thing is my toy is apple green and quite big (ZX6R). I drove with CBs and Bandits before and never got stopped.
Anyway I really feel police is tougher for the expo. Saw many policemen with lines of scooters without plates getting confiscated these days.
Be careful! |
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daki86
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Karu
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I have converted my foreign car license into a Chinese one but as I do not own any bike license I need to find a school in Shanghai (I know it won't be the best place to learn but I need to be legit).
I went to the one on Guangzhong Lu, they don't want to bother with wai guo peng you anymore they said. Anyone to suggest another school? (I could handle communication in Mandarin with instructor, but cannot read). Thanks. |
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Wangtang6911
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I heard something about a new law in Shanghai that allows people to ride bigger bikes?! What is the deal with this new law and how big of bikes are we talking about!? I am currently in the process of obtaining my motorcycle license and looking to buy a 250cc bike! Thanks!! |
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aristonb
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May I ask, where can we find these information. Either in chinese or english. So that if I were to be stop I can have some evidence to support my claim. |
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compsolutions
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I would posit that if stopped, you'll be subject to current law.
*If* a new law is passed, it will appear on the Shanghai government law & regulations website.
As I haven't seen anything in English *or* Chinese on any of the relevant site, nor have heard anything but rumours, nor seen anything on the Shanghai Government Transport (JiaoTong) website, I'm guessing fairy tales.
References:
http://www.shanghailaw.gov.cn ( http://www.shanghailaw.gov.cn/fzbEnglish/page/locallaws.html )
http://www.shanghai.gov.cn ( http://www.shanghai.gov.cn/shanghai/node17256/index.html )
http://www.shjtaq.com/main/index.asp (no english language site)
Please prove me wrong though, I would love to be wrong.
Saw a nice red Ducati on Huangpi lu just yesterday, sigh... |
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Wangtang6911
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I did see some guy with a red harley the other day and he says that there are only 3 companies that can currently get motorcycle licenses in Shanghai. Harley, Honda, and Ducati. I don't know if this is true or not but this guy had a brand new red harley with a Shanghai license plate so I definitely trust what he was saying. He says there may be some hope that Suzuki, Kawasaki, and Yamaha will pay for licensing in Shanghai within the next couple of years! |
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DILLIGAF
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Wangtang6911
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So I guess it is possible to get one of those bikes in Shanghai!
Maybe I will pop in the ducati dealer tomorrow afternoon and see how much their bikes cost here! |
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DILLIGAF
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| Wangtang6911 wrote: |
| Maybe I will pop in the ducati dealer tomorrow afternoon and see how much their bikes cost here! |
Got any serious heart or other serious health conditions? You will be shocked... be afraid - very afraid not only because it's Halloween! DILLIGAF
ps: Ducati Shanghai shop is located at 133 Chengdu Road (near Dagu Road) and the HD shop moved out to Putuo district to a very shitty location.... |
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daki86
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anyone know where a honda dealer would be?
supposedly they sell scooters as well? |
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Wangtang6911
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Wow, so I walked over to the Ducati dealership the other day and checked out their bikes. It is legal to ride them in the city of Shanghai and get licensing for them! All together, the sales rep said that the 848 would be 310-320K RMB. That is almost 3 times the price one of those things would be in the US!! While that bike is beautiful, I would need to save up for 6 years go be able to afford one of those!! So, unless I strike it rich or they want to give it to me for under 50K, it's not going to happen!
I have heard from some people about the dealership that sells sports bikes that is located in the Hongqiao area!? Apparently they sell imported sport bikes as well?! Can anyone get me information or an address on this place?! |
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Karu
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Last friday, on Donghu Road, in front of Cantina Agave, I have seen 5 big bikes (HD and others). All of them had Shanghai plates. Now I've got the answer.
Anyone know why some Chinese would go to the Shanghai Drivers License Building (Xin Zhuang) to get thir waidi license to be converted into a Shanghai one. Are not you allowed to drive in Shanghai with a license from Jiangsu? Would be weird... or you need to have your license that matches with your hukou? No idea. |
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aristonb
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There is 2 condition for a bike to be register with shanghai plate:
1: The bike is made in china, and it is brand new. You can get yellow A plate for them as long as you have the inner ring Hukou Book. The plate cost the same as the car number plate because now you can swap them for a car plate. You can get Honda CBf 150cc CBf 125cc, Yamaha R1, Yamaha i forgot the code but you can have 250 and 125 (Brand new with plate), Ducati, Harley, BMW. Of cause the plate is second hand but the shop can do all of these for you.
2: The bike costing more than than 300 000 RMB. Th government will make new plates for those bikes. Ofcause that would put your Ducati, BMW, and Harley Davidson.
If the chinese government dont do this then these big bikes won't survive here. Also the government must get something out of it as well.
The HD shop is near the big public swimming pool area in putuo. it is near a waterpark out there. |
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asdjason
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Nov 03, 2009 - 01:34 PM |
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Honda Motor dealer address:
No 1397, ChangNing Road, ChangNing District.(长宁路1397号) |
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D.ORiGiNAL
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Nov 05, 2009 - 02:15 PM |
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Thanks. I will check it out tonight. Got big bikes there?
I have a Kawasaki ZX6R for sale for 40k. 2004 model. Mint condition with Jiangsu plate and receipt. PM me! 
Ducati's price is a joke. |
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Wangtang6911
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Nov 08, 2009 - 03:26 PM |
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damn, D.Original, you still haven't sold the ZX6R yet?
Yeah, Ducati's price is ridiculous, but I guess that's the price you pay for luxury. I did see the Desmosedici there for like 1.1M rmb! That bike was beautiful though!
Interesting enough, though, the sales rep did mention that Kawasaki was going to try to obtain the rights to license their bikes in Shanghai next year!
Also, anyone have an address for a place that sells sport bikes that I can get to from the city without having to have my own car?! Thanks! |
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