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Do expat kids in Shanghai have part-time jobs after school, on the weekends etc? My kids have always been encouraged to increase their independence and earn a few extra dollars in this way. What type of jobs are available? How much do they earn?
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My daughter has had a few babysitting jobs and charges what she did in the US - 40 RMB an hour plus they have to provide transportation. Of course she competes with ayis, so has nowhere near the jobs that she had at home!
There are many opportunities to volunteer through the schools. The American School has a Community Service Club with groups that go weekly to an orphanage and retirement home. I have joined her a few times on Saturdays for trips to the orphanage.
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Post subject: Re: Teenagers working part time

MatildaGirl wrote:
Do expat kids in Shanghai have part-time jobs after school, on the weekends etc? My kids have always been encouraged to increase their independence and earn a few extra dollars in this way. What type of jobs are available? How much do they earn?


how old are your kids then? Question
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My daughter works at the local supermarket here. Only for 10-15 hrs per week but she enjoys it. She would want a part-time job in China too. Volunteering sounds fine, but I think most kids would like to earn some $$$ as well.
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yeah...my friends work in ef.and teach english there.
maybe your kid also can work there.that's good
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I can't imagine many teenagers with enough confidence to stand up in front of a class and teach English. I know, one of my children in particular would die of embrassment and fright. I think one of my sons could handle it, as long as, there were not more than about 10 people in the class. One-on-one could be ok, but I don't think most kids would have the maturity to know what to say. Obviously, if your kids have done it, it is possible. Could you explain the process to me, of how it all works?
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hi matidagirl.
you know in ef,their age around 24 years old...and the class people like between 4-8people..but when you decide to go to ef to teach.their boss will teach every worker how to teach..your kids need to training..
and everyday,teach works begin 9pm,and work off 12pm..and afternoon students go to computer room study...
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MatildaGirl,
I worked part-time as a high school kid and did appreciate the experience and extra money. But, looking back, I'm not sure if the "young person part-time working" experience is all it's cracked up to be. In the end you don't typically gain any lasting skills from this kind of low-level job, and, though it's good to instill a work ethic and a sense of independence, I think there are other ways to do that which may last longer -- particularly education in languages, art, music, sports, or anything that encourages a more healthy and balanced mind and body.

My parents never gave me money and I don't think it's good to shower money on your kids, but maybe you could provide them with a fixed amount of spending money in return for household responsibilities or good grades or something along those lines. Just a thought.

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Monk wrote:
MatildaGirl,
I worked part-time as a high school kid and did appreciate the experience and extra money. But, looking back, I'm not sure if the "young person part-time working" experience is all it's cracked up to be. In the end you don't typically gain any lasting skills from this kind of low-level job, and, though it's good to instill a work ethic and a sense of independence, I think there are other ways to do that which may last longer -- particularly education in languages, art, music, sports, or anything that encourages a more healthy and balanced mind and body.

My parents never gave me money and I don't think it's good to shower money on your kids, but maybe you could provide them with a fixed amount of spending money in return for household responsibilities or good grades or something along those lines. Just a thought.


yeah..that's good opinion!
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Thanks for your input. My kids do chores at home. With five kids everyone has to pitch-in or the house would be chaotic. My older kids work parttime and love it. Apart from the extra cash it gives them a sense of responsibility. I think it is a wonderful experience. Cultural and sporting pursuits are fine, I encourage these as well, but I think it is great character building to have a part-time job. Even it is only for 4-5 hours a week, I think the experience is worthwhile.
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I'd agree very much. In fact my after school work experience is what helped clinch my first real job. Plus my parents helped me to save and budget the money I earned.

However, the market for P/T jobs is much more limited because China already has a huge pool of cheap labor for the kind of jobs students would take at home - fast food, checkouts, etc. A friend's daughter has built up a regular round in her compound of babysitting on Saturday nights. She gets 50RMB an hour ($6) and she's happy with that.
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Matilda,
5 hours a week is definitely reasonable. We may be thinking of different things when we say part-time -- when I was in high school and college, my classmates and I typically worked 20-30 hours a week.

Nicklar: I agree.

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What about fulltime employment for 18-20 year olds. My niece was over visiting the other night and asked if she might stay with us for a couple months whilst we are living in China. I am keen to have her visit, but think she would get bored without a job. What kind of work is available? She is a uni student and does not have any practical work skills.
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WendyCollins-Smith wrote:
What about fulltime employment for 18-20 year olds. My niece was over visiting the other night and asked if she might stay with us for a couple months whilst we are living in China. I am keen to have her visit, but think she would get bored without a job. What kind of work is available? She is a uni student and does not have any practical work skills.

um..it depand on what is your niece Speciality ? Question
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It would be hard to work 20-30 hours per week plus attend school. You must have been a capable adolescent to cope with all that.
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MatildaGirl -- I went to HS in a small town. School wasn't very challenging and there wasn't much else to do anyway. Most kids worked just to kill time. On the other hand, working in college was a burden and definitely had its effect on my grades and social life.

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Does Chinese law allow teenagers to work? I read recently under 18's are not allowed to work in Hong Kong, and only over 18 years with a degree. Is this true for parttime jobs in mainland China?
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ohh..maybe your children..especially native english speaker.. around 17-23 years old.. can help me to improve my oral english,.. ill pay them 50 yuan perhour..plus everything..(eat,transportation and blablabla)..no need to teach me.,. just talk to me then ill pay....talking is like teaching for me..im 21m indonesian,rich unemployment..lol..pls pm me..
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I read recently under 18's are not allowed to work in Hong Kong, and only over 18 years with a degree. Is this true for parttime jobs in mainland China?

That may not be true. kids are not allowed to work. After 16, should be no problem.
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You are correct about the age requirements. Companies legally cannot employ under 18 year olds.

Your best bet is for your kids to TUTOR other kids in and around their neighborhood. There are always parents (especially Taiwanese) that want their kids to get a little extra English. My daughter makes 100 RMB per week and has three students. It may not sound like much, but in a month, she earns more than a Chinese barber shop girl. And, there just isn't that much to spend it on here.
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