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TraderT

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Posted: Nov 04, 2004 - 09:54 AM
Post subject: Anybody using China Netcom for Internet access?

I'm doing some testing of ISP's in Shanghai and would very much like to know if anyone on this board is using China Netcom as their Internet ISP in SH, either thorugh their 2M service or through their 10M shared service.
If so, please send me a PM and I would like to arrnge for a brief tracert test (I can explain). This will only take a miniute or two and woud be very helpful to us. Payment can be arranged in beers at local tavern of your choice.

Thanks in advance,

TraderT

carrol

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Posted: Nov 04, 2004 - 10:59 AM

What's the difference between China Netcom and China Telecom?

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Posted: Nov 04, 2004 - 11:09 AM

They are entirely different companies.
We believe China Netcom has a superior connection to certain western websites, but need to test this theory.

SimLim

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Posted: Nov 04, 2004 - 11:13 AM

HI,

I don’t know whether its china netcom. But I got 2 Mbit ADSL so from what company ever but I'll try to find out. Just tell me what u wanna tracert I try it for u. But I can already tell u the internet connection is crab Wink

. As well as my companies internet connection that one’s even worse (carrier WorldCom Ltd., Hongkong)

Regards,

Simon

edit:

Under these circumstances I suppose my con is from china telecom check it this evening

Jasmyn
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Posted: Nov 04, 2004 - 12:45 PM

I'm using CNC - speed is ok, no major complains. Big problem is the great firewall of China (does China Telecom ADSL get the same problem?), there's no way I can get into Yahoo! services, and if I'm lucky enough, I might get into Yahoo! mail. Someone ought to teach the bloody Govt to respect our basic rights to access all forms of information.

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Jasmyn
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Posted: Nov 04, 2004 - 12:48 PM

Oh before I forget - did I mention the useless technical helpdesk who kept quiet throughout the call despite the fact that I hit the button that says "Press 2 for English".

They refuse to admit that there's a DNS error, gave me all the wrong input, and suggested I send an electronic enquiry to the customer service of those respective websites that I can't access. Now thats simply daft! Talking about hopelessness...

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cata

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Posted: Nov 05, 2004 - 12:43 AM

I use CNC too. It was just ok. I have same problem as Jasmyn,
slow speed when using with Yahoo (us server).

I found a new trick, try it and it works!

http://cn.mail.yahoo.com

or
http://www.yahoo.com.cn

Login as if you do on yahoo.com, (login and then password), click enter.

Though it's in CHinese but all Yahoo! around the world have the same
format.

I found that it 's faster when i login via Chinese site, and then I reach my normal Yahoo!Mail page in English

JohnFrancis

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Posted: Nov 09, 2004 - 08:05 AM

I always thought CNC and China Telecom were basically the same company. China Telecom is horrible in connecting to The West. The latency in the sprintlink.net connection is abysmal.

SimLim

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Posted: Nov 10, 2004 - 10:53 PM

@TraderT

What's the result?

richvenom

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Posted: Nov 10, 2004 - 11:48 PM

well, i do have this problem which hit me at some of the website which i could not visit (and there are all decent and informative website) - i am not sure whether it is because that it is shutting out the outside or connection problem but i have the feel it is the 1st theory.

Enlighten me on that note

cheers

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TraderT

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Posted: Nov 11, 2004 - 08:23 AM

Research is on-going and interesting. Will post a summary when we have completed the process (which is taking us into many odd corners and strange environs.) Might take another couple of weeks to come to a resting spot. Thanks to all who have responded and assisted.

tttwww

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Posted: Nov 16, 2004 - 10:41 AM
Post subject: Yahoo Mail connection

Cata,

I tried the two Chinese Yahoo websites you suggested, and both worked much faster. So thanks for the tips. Right now it's 10:40 AM. The Internet traffic maybe slow. I'll have to wait until the night time to see if they really work well as they should.

I've been so frustrated accessing my Yahoo Mail and many other US websites. It takes forever to open a page. And sometimes, they're never opened. I have signed up ADSL service through China Telecom. I even upgraded to 200K at 150RMB/month. I haven't seen any improvement in its speed. So I would love to know if there are better and faster way to browse the western websites.

A friend of mine said I should set up POP3 with Yahoo, and access my mail via Microsoft Outlook. Don't know how to do it though.

Jasmyn
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Posted: Nov 16, 2004 - 10:52 AM

Woohoo!! I'm surfing at very satisfactory speed on CnC now & surprisingly no DNS error when accessing "difficult" websites. Have they dfinally come to their sense or what?

tttwww, try connecting via user-defined proxy servers. You can find many overseas proxies @ www.proxy4free.com but use the anonymous ones for goodness sake.

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carrol

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Posted: Nov 16, 2004 - 02:03 PM

I use Telecom but I sure wish Netcom would stop trying to hack into my computer .. !!

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cata

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Posted: Nov 19, 2004 - 01:38 AM

tttwww
glad to hear it works for you Smile

My husband has Pop option, it works well and quick
Now price is interesting..just click on Mail Upgrade and proceed,
you will be asked like 15 us$ I think..

SLV

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Posted: Dec 15, 2004 - 12:20 PM

Hey tried to do some research on my own about CNC but failed. the english website has no useful info about pricing, and the phone # listed there, noone answers! Can anyone be so kind as to give me this info? We have China telecom now and it's utter shite. Sure I could fiddle with proxies until it's acceptable, but I'd feel good about supporting a company that just does things RIGHT.

I'd much rather just get a cable modem!!! no stupid logins and i get the impression it's not too popular here, so the cable shared bandwidth shouldn't be a problem. Plus, we could cancel this telephone landline that we have no use for at all.