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Rio
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Apr 19, 2005 - 04:57 PM |
 
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Gimme a quarter pounder, a cheeseburger and some fries and a big diet coke. |
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MaomingMaster
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Apr 19, 2005 - 08:14 PM |
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I spoke to several Japanese people yesterday and today and they're all extremely worried about these prοtests. All of them want to leave China immediately - they don't have much desire to be here despite the prοtests.
Inevitably, if these witch hunts, sorry, prοtests continue then many Japanese owned companies may have to close shop in China altogether.
They employ a fair amount of locals, don't they? |
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bougie
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Apr 19, 2005 - 08:20 PM |
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A shitload i would say. think about the auto industry alone...major big plans for the futures as well... |
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kiki
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Apr 19, 2005 - 08:30 PM |
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She, where did that take place?
According to the US, the demonstration is a 'double-edged sword'. Certainly that's wrong.
But I hardly see any point in protesting. It's Chinese government's business. |
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MaomingMaster
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Apr 19, 2005 - 08:40 PM |
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And then, of course, let's not forget the war the Mainland wants to have with Taiwan.
That's sure to encourage more foreign investment.
How absolutely retarded this government can be.... |
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Andreas
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Apr 19, 2005 - 09:40 PM |
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It only shows that despite all window dressing, China is still not a mature country, and with this attitude never will be.
Maybe India is a better choice for the long term. Who knows ? I am quite sure that many foreign businesses (not only the Japanese) will monitor the developments very carefully. I would not be surprised if this whole affair has a negative impact on future foreign direct investments. |
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yu888
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Apr 19, 2005 - 10:45 PM |
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this is all just politics in play. good businesses know this when they come that there is a certain amount of political risk involved. unless this goes on and escalates, these businesses will stay as long as they can make money. At this point, all these talk about them pulling out is mostly that...just talk. China and Japan are battling it out for power and resources...indirectly its a battle with the US. China is just using these pent up anti-japanese sentiments (which by the way are NOT limited to just Chinese here educated under this system) to leverage off of. Whether or not this this wil garner the desired effect is unclear. As for the comment on the "double edged sword", I think it can be if those who prοtest start to think for themselves and then start to realise they can do this against things they dislike about the government. it is obvious that the prοtests are somewho sanctioned by the gov't, otherwise they would not be allowed to happpen here at all. this may also backfire if teh prοtests either turn really violent or start to be directed at targets other than Japan. |
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yu888
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Apr 19, 2005 - 10:47 PM |
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Window dressing it is...all of us who live here know that. But as with adolescents who make mistakes but grow up to be fine individuals, China and her society need to go through this stage before it is ready to be a real leader on the world stage. They can change the hardware and infrastructure, but the software(people) can only change so fast. Frustrating, but true. |
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toto2005
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Apr 19, 2005 - 11:56 PM |
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But I hardly see any point in protesting. It's Chinese government's business.
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Agreed. Only if they understand what's more important for their country. |
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RT
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Apr 20, 2005 - 08:42 AM |
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| Andreas wrote: |
| It only shows that despite all window dressing, China is still not a mature country, and with this attitude never will be. |
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^^Have to agree.
Sad that in 2005, in this country, not only are people's property and personal safety not properly protected, but that attacks on them are sort of allowed [if not encouraged].
I think full compensation and apology shall be paid by the destroyers and/or the government. which seems not very likely. and that would mean gangster mentality/logic of culture revolution is still alive in China, officially alive I mean, and massively alive, and despite the "fact" that people are singing "rule-of-law" every day, the singers really know no law.
well. yes this episode tells something about China. |
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sino_chino
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Apr 20, 2005 - 09:03 AM |
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[quote]Friggin hell, ask any Jewish victims or American Indians or Indigenous Australians or others groups what the hell they went through. They have learned in some way to forgive.[quote]
This guy is a victim of their own propaganda. Does that mean it allows the Japanese government to distort history? or the German government to deny Holocaust? Besides, indigenuous Americans have been fighting for sovereignty of their reservations, seeking broader self-governance power. They want to have their own nations on their own land. |
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MaomingMaster
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Apr 20, 2005 - 09:40 AM |
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this may also backfire if teh prοtests either turn really violent or start to be directed at targets other than Japan.
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I've wondered about this too. The mob-mentality of these prοtests could overspill to include anyone not just the Japanese.
May the 5th should be interesting..... |
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*CheerLeader*Mao
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Apr 20, 2005 - 11:47 AM |
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| Maybe India is a better choice for the long term. Who knows ? I am quite sure that many foreign businesses (not only the Japanese) will monitor the developments very carefully. I would not be surprised if this whole affair has a negative impact on future foreign direct investments. |
prοtests so wOnDerfUl, loVe SatUrDay Much So. ReMinDs MaO oF Red GuaRdS DesTroYinG eVeruThIng for Fun and SteAling fRom owN famiLies. ThIs tiMe wE do IT tO RibEn Ren. japanese WiLl Pay For 1937 sEvEreLy, I BeAt theM, AlThough LovE sushi and JapWomen.
US$60 Billion in DFI last year 2004, 32 Billion fRom japanese. See we DonT nEeD thEm, ChinA bEttEr on one Self.
LoVe ChinA, LovE CCP!!! ChINA YouTh moSt InTellIGent of All NatiONS. |
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kiki
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Apr 20, 2005 - 01:34 PM |
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As for the comment on the "double edged sword", I think it can be if those who prοtest start to think for themselves and then start to realise they can do this against things they dislike about the government. it is obvious that the prοtests are somewho sanctioned by the gov't, otherwise they would not be allowed to happpen here at all. this may also backfire if teh prοtests either turn really violent or start to be directed at targets other than Japan.
Yu888, you added what I left unsaid. But anyway, that's not my view though... |
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ChunLi
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Apr 20, 2005 - 04:11 PM |
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Do any of your coworkers ask if you're going to participate? Everytime they ask me I want to roll my eyes so hard but I'm afraid they're going to get stuck. |
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commando
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Apr 20, 2005 - 04:25 PM |
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this may also backfire if teh prοtests either turn really violent or start to be directed at targets other than Japan.
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I've wondered about this too. The mob-mentality of these prοtests could overspill to include anyone not just the Japanese.
May the 5th should be interesting..... |
7.62 GPMG is oiled and dusted down, ready and waiting.
Just thinking about Zero'ing in this weapon on my balcony. |
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Andreas
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Apr 20, 2005 - 05:09 PM |
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commando
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Apr 20, 2005 - 05:13 PM |
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This is a weapon i'm not familuar with, but if you bring it up to my highrise apartment we can practice together.
True.
My grandad still has a BREN GUN from world war two, would be very nervous about letting off a few rounds with that fecker. |
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Andreas
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Apr 20, 2005 - 07:37 PM |
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It's the Heckler & Koch sniper rifle. There's a special version made for the US, the MSG-90A1, modified for the US DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle) program. Also the slightly heavier HK PSG-1, designed for the police.
Those Brens are cool by the way. Magazine on the side if I remember right. |
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MaomingMaster
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Apr 20, 2005 - 07:51 PM |
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I remember using a Glock (sp?) in LA.
Also a Magnum (fcuk me!) and the JB gun Walther PPK.
Bloody excellent fun! |
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Andreas
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Apr 20, 2005 - 08:04 PM |
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The Glock's are excellent handguns. Good old Austrian family owned business. All the range up to .45
The PPK is nice as well, old design, goes back to 1931, but very reliable. |
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MaomingMaster
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Apr 20, 2005 - 08:16 PM |
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The bloke who was teaching me how to use the guns said that the Glock is the perfect terrorists gun as it's made almost entirely from some kind of reinforced plastic.
I think the Walther PPK was originally designed as a 'lady's gun' but became popular with geezers because of 007 movies. It's a beautiful piece of machinery - just feels so good in your hand. <<snigger snigger>> |
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Andreas
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Apr 20, 2005 - 08:34 PM |
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The PPK was the standard small arm for officers in the German army in WW2. Came in two calibers 6.35 and 7.62.
The modern version is the P99, a 9mm. Very accurate and reliable but expensive.
The Glock has a plastic frame with steel slides. Light but strong. |
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MaomingMaster
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Apr 20, 2005 - 08:39 PM |
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Yes, I noticed the Glock was very light. But aesthetically- speaking not very nice. The PPK is a very 'pretty' gun - especially in chrome - I guess that's why it was initially marketed towards women. |
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BaDaXianRen
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Apr 20, 2005 - 11:22 PM |
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its also a double action semi auto. No cocking the hammer on the first shot with your dainty and delicate little fingers |
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