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acujerjer
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Aug 15, 2005 - 09:32 AM |
 
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The term gets translated as "foreigner." If we break it apart literally we see it means "Outside Country Person". We tend to look at "wai guo ren" as the English equivalent to "foreigner", but I don't believe this to be true.
I was sitting with a group of Chinese in California a few years ago. They were speaking Chinese to each other and were talking about about some Americans calling them "wai guo ren." So here we are in America, where these Chinese people, who haven't lived in the US for too long, are calling native born Americans wai guo ren. Obviously, the people they were referring to were not "foreigners."
You rarely, if ever, hear Chinese people call africans wai guo ren, or Japanese or Koreans wai guo ren. Africans are fei zhou ren and Japanese are ri ben ren. So what does the term "wai guo ren" truly mean.
I believe, it means your stereotypical middle to upper class caucasian westerner. Doesn't that make sense to you? |
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wsl
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Aug 15, 2005 - 09:49 AM |
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waiguoren in most chinese's minds are white ppl. |
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wsl
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Aug 15, 2005 - 09:50 AM |
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yes japanese is ri ben ren, korean is han guo ren. and xiang gang ren, tai wan ren, xin jia po ren, etc.
but generally and formally waiguoren means foreigner. |
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commando
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Aug 15, 2005 - 09:50 AM |
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wsl
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Aug 15, 2005 - 09:51 AM |
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in a paper, usually waiguoren means foreigner, ie non-chinese.
when a chinese goes abroad, waiguoren in his mouth means non-chinese or white ppl. |
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commando
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Aug 15, 2005 - 09:52 AM |
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wsl
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Aug 15, 2005 - 09:52 AM |
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and japanese is ri ben ren in chinese language, and some gross chinese say, ri ben ren, haha, japanese fukkk themself. |
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commando
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Aug 15, 2005 - 09:53 AM |
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Well they did fcuk you lot up. |
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acujerjer
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:09 AM |
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It doesn't mean foreigner. Foreigner just means someone living in a country or visiting a country that is not from there. The term wai guo ren is different. |
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AxialAGE2
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:16 AM |
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to most people in china, Wai guo ren means westerners. |
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wsl
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:17 AM |
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it is the same for chinese. and ajj, I think most laowais on this site are all 下三滥.
even you are better than them, 因为你的心比较柔软,you just like holes, not your fault. |
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wsl
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:20 AM |
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commando is a 下三滥too, XIA SAN LAN, down, three, sucks |
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DeeLphiC
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:23 AM |
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what is the English expression of "下三滥"???
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DeeLphiC
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:25 AM |
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low, three, abusive
ben4!
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wsl
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:26 AM |
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d, your chinese sucks. 滥LAN, here means this person is very bad.
like:
ni de zhong wen hen lan你的中文很滥/烂, your chinese sucks big time. |
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DeeLphiC
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:28 AM |
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| commando wrote: |
| The Master race. |
replace "r" with "b", "c" with "t" ... 
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wsl
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:28 AM |
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下三滥 XIA SAN LAN, has somthing to do with 下九流, XIA JIU LIU, but they arent the same, different but related meaning. |
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wsl
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:29 AM |
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can mean you are very bad and very cheap. |
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DeeLphiC
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:32 AM |
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d, your chinese sucks. 滥LAN, here means this person is very bad.
like:
ni de zhong wen hen lan你的中文很滥/烂, your chinese sucks big time. |
Oh okay if yo say so. LMAO.
Xia San Lan actor, maybe ... yay!!!
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wsl
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:39 AM |
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there is a term,三教九流, maybe "xia san lan", and "xia jiu liu" come from this term. |
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commando
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:46 AM |
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wsl
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:49 AM |
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commando, you are XIA SAN LAN in me good chinese's eyes, though you are quite funny.
I always tolerate funny ppl. |
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commando
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Aug 15, 2005 - 10:54 AM |
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wsl
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Aug 15, 2005 - 11:04 AM |
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commando, just try to be funny as ajj, then we chinese will like you more. |
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commando
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Aug 15, 2005 - 12:16 PM |
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I don't want YOU Chinese to like me.
I hold you all in contempt.
Ignorance.
Guilty. |
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