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wolfy
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:23 AM |
 
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There have been some allegations in some French newspapers that six backdated samples of Lance Armstrong's blood from 1999 were found to contain traces of EPO through use of a new test.
http://www.eitb24.com/noticia_en.php?id=84123
Seven-times Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong has denied ever taking performance-enhancing drugs following a report in French newspaper L'Equipe that he had used the blood-boosting drug EPO in 1999.
"I will simply restate what I have said many times: I have never taken performance-enhancing drugs," the American said in a statement on his personal website.
L'Equipe, saying it had access to laboratory documents, reported on Tuesday that six of Armstrong's urine samples collected on the 1999 Tour de France showed "indisputable" traces of EPO (erythropoietin).
There were no tests to detect EPO, a drug that increases the level of red blood cells, in 1999, but samples from the 1999 Tour de France had been kept and have been recently retested by a lab specialising in doping tests in Chatenay-Malabry, outside Paris.
L'Equipe published what it claimed to be a result sheet from the lab that appeared to show six figures revealing traces of EPO.
The newspaper said the document had been sent by the lab to the French Sports Minister on Monday.
The laboratory and Tour de France officials declined to comment. |
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frenchlover1999
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:30 AM |
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wolfy
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:35 AM |
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Well if this is the case he should be stripped of his victories. But innocent until proven guilty and all that.
I think he maybe have had to take EPO as part of his cancer treatment a while back but I'm not sure. |
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SirFiddler
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:36 AM |
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was he diagnosed with cancer in 1999 already ? |
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:43 AM |
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| was he diagnosed with cancer in 1999 already ? |
That was what i was working out.
There was a footy player in the UK, Alan Stubbs, who now plays for your team Everton. When he was with Celtic he failed a drugs test and it turned out the reason being was that he had the early stages of testicular cancer.
Some googling required! |
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frenchlover1999
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:44 AM |
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Well if this is the case he should be stripped of his victories.
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Nonsense. Then we could put all athletes in jail and start watching knitting competitions on TV. |
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wolfy
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:46 AM |
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| was he diagnosed with cancer in 1999 already ? |
No, it was back in 1996. However:
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| Armstrong's oncologists gave him Epogen, a brand of EPO, to raise his hematocrit, knowing that this use of EPO, which is banned by the Union Cycliste Internationale and the International Olympic Committee |
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wolfy
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:50 AM |
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| Nonsense. Then we could put all athletes in jail and start watching knitting competitions on TV. |
I think in the case of the Olympics and some other competitions there should be two contests. One for drug users and one for clean athletes.
I would pay good money to see to see steroid fuelled monsters competing against each other. |
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SirFiddler
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:51 AM |
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Well if this is the case he should be stripped of his victories.
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Nonsense. Then we could put all athletes in jail and start watching knitting competitions on TV. |
until they start doping to finish that red jumper quicker
well if there isn't a law/regulation that says, if you dope , and don't get caught in the next five years, you get away with it : Fine.
If there isn't : Get the sucker |
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*CheerLeader*Mao
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:53 AM |
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as if he wasn't on something, how is this a surprise to anyone? |
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Magnolia
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:53 AM |
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Like a statue of limitations?
That would be a good idea. Doesn't really seem fair to strip people of awards six years later. Not unless they re-test the urine of all participants. |
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*CheerLeader*Mao
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:55 AM |
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doesn't seem fair? are you kidding, they cheated, how is it not fair even if it is 10 years down the road.
their is not statute of limitations on cheating |
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:56 AM |
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need to start replace the yellow wristbands with a belt around the forearm! |
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Magnolia
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:57 AM |
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But what happens if it turns out that all of the participants were using illegal substances? |
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*CheerLeader*Mao
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Aug 24, 2005 - 11:59 AM |
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oh, like the 1988 100m gold final.
well they just ban the winner then, that would be ben johnson, the rest got away scot free like carl lewis it was found had drugs in his system and failed 9 previous drug tests that were covered up by the US Olympic committee. |
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commando
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Aug 24, 2005 - 01:04 PM |
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These drugs tests are to strict.
Sometimes you can't take an Aspirin. |
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gman
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Aug 25, 2005 - 08:46 PM |
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morons,
armstrong is the most drug tested athlete of any and all sports and probably of all time. and he has always tested clean. you people have no idea of the bullfeces that this man goes through every single day with this same kind of **** that youre spreading here.
i fully agree that they should be tested. but i dont agree that anyone should be tested to the extent that he has been and have their life dissrupted to the extent that he has.
fyi the testing bodies even pay "newsies" to steal combs, hairbrushes and toothbrushes from him during group interviews at his home.
and then there is this kind of continued ignorance by the (educated)? public.
alledged by the french cmon, they just cant stand it that a frenchman or italian isnt winning it. OH and they are so above trumping up false charges/accusations.
if lance were a jerkoff-bidet like so many of the football, baseball, basketball players then would you all be so agreeable? if he were so concieted and arrogant and loftier than thou, then would you all support him?
piss off and bite me!
you educated people allow yourselves to be not only party to but in support of this crap.
bite me and piss off!
except for commando, you apparently have common sense and a brain that you are capable of putting into use.
go sheep go!
i reckon that you all are in favor of the ridiculous "security" that goes on in american airports too? in all of the history of public transportation by aircraft, one time some goon allegedly has a "shoe bomb" so now everyone takes off their shoes. cmon, what a joke. typical bureaucratic overreaction to a nonexistant threat.
piss of and bite me! |
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dfoo
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Aug 25, 2005 - 10:07 PM |
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^ anger management problems. |
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commando
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Aug 26, 2005 - 07:28 AM |
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Armstrong in my opinion is a great athlete.
Heard on CNN this morning, that a certain FRENCH newspaper is hounding this story, calling Armstrong a cheat, (wankers).
Typical of the FRENCH, they have'nt won since 1985, and Armstrong has won seven of these. Now they want to try an discredit a winner because thier country's participant is a loser.
How bloody FRENCH is that.
WANKERS. |
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dfoo
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Aug 26, 2005 - 07:41 AM |
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Indeed. I have great respect for Armstrong. Anyone who can come back from cancer and still compete at the highest level and WIN is simply unbelievable. They've been after his for years... this is just another kick at the cat. Assholes. |
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Raiderfan
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Aug 26, 2005 - 09:55 AM |
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I agree with the last few posts. I mean, think about it: Lance has been tested a sickening amount for the last 7 years (oftentimes being the only person tested on a particular day) and he has passed. Now, after all this time, it's like "OH! We've found it!"
Why didn't this happen 5-6 years ago? Mainly, I think it's because this is all BS. Lance is the best thing to happen to the Tour...everybody, love him or hate him, watched to see if he could keep winning. He made the tour popular and while he was there, they didn't want him to leave, so they did not publicly suport the allegations. Now that he's gone, and thus not the main attraction, they can finally go after him like they have really wanted to (plus they have had time to "lose" the second (control) sample taken on that day and time to allow the samples to become contaminated, etc.).
I say good for Lance for talking about suing the crud out of those worthless wankers. Face it, he beat the snot out of all those who hated and were jealous of him. The French haven't won a Tour in 22 years and it isn't looking much better in the near future, considering that the two frontrunners are a German and Italian.
And I'm still wearing the yellow wristband with pride. |
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wolfy
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Aug 26, 2005 - 11:00 AM |
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you educated people allow yourselves to be not only party to but in support of this crap.
bite me and piss off! except for commando, you apparently have common sense and a brain that you are capable of putting into use. |
Quite. This is mere speculation and reporting of the news. I think its you who is the the brainless sheep for thinking that someone of Armstrong's stature would never cheat. Maybe he wouldn't but what if these tests prove he cheated?
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i reckon that you all are in favor of the ridiculous "security" that goes on in american airports too? in all of the history of public transportation by aircraft, one time some goon allegedly has a "shoe bomb" so now everyone takes off their shoes. cmon, what a joke. typical bureaucratic overreaction to a nonexistant threat.
piss of and bite me! |
That goon you mentioned DID have a shoe bomb! Not f'king allegedly. Why do you think he is in gaol? Anyway what has this got to do with Lance Armstrong? Its you who is overreacting. Piss off yourself. |
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DragonAss
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Aug 26, 2005 - 11:06 AM |
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Is this the same armstrong who produced en made everyone wearing the colourful rubber strings??? My friend was so proud of it, I thought he went nuts.
It's like back to the Nazi's era. |
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DragonAss
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Aug 26, 2005 - 11:07 AM |
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Likely I am talking alone, out of the topic.
I am being chatty today?? so just ignore me.. |
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gman
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Aug 26, 2005 - 06:58 PM |
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Wolfy
uh..like you totally missed the point of my tirade.
so re-read and come back.
backatcha on the pissoff dude. |
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