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travelinjack3
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Jan 27, 2006 - 01:25 PM |
 
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A buddy of mine back in the States is about to finish his certification to teach english but he doesn't have a job lined up here yet.
Where are the best places to look for those jobs?
Should he come over and then look here?
How does this bit work? |
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nanar747
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Jan 27, 2006 - 02:05 PM |
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why does all the people that have nothing to do in their countries end up in china to teach english????
is it because it is easier?
less work???
les trouble??
for the fact of beiing in a new country???
because they could not find a job in their country????
for the experience????
i am a little confuse here can anyone tell me??
thanks
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rgeczi8
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Jan 27, 2006 - 02:39 PM |
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Nanar747, if you are Chinese, then you should understand. How many Chinese people go abroad for work/study??? What reasons do you think they have? If you find the answer, then apply that to anyone planning on coming here to teach English. Sure some people come for "an adventure", but for the most part, the people I know come here for a work opportunity. |
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Beantown
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Jan 27, 2006 - 02:49 PM |
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If I had children, I'd never have these 'kids' teach mine since most English teachers I see have absolutely no experience teaching...just college graduates wanting to try something different? I'm not knocking you teachers, b/c I know a lot of good ones out there and I befriend quite a few. Some I've met just go out & party every night & use their teaching jobs to support their overseas lifestyle. Works for them. Just don't want them to teach my kids, if and once I have them, of course.
Also the awful Asian notion that if the foreigner speaks either 'brit' or 'american', they can teach English...It helps A LOT if you're white. Sounds awful, I know. 'Tis true, however.
I've got friends who can't spell and it's their first language. So take it with a grain of salt.
Might be a good opportunity for someone to travel around the world in a tight budget, fresh out of college. I think it's great if they're really good teachers if they had something to offer.
Maybe they are teachers wanting to teach in China? Simple. I know one guy who came to explore rivers and teach at the same time. He's good at both. I've got another who spends a year or two teaching in different countries. I also met these two who are just party animals, not wanting to teach, but are teachers. ...so to each their own. |
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One_Brick_Shy
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Jan 27, 2006 - 03:36 PM |
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why does all the people that have nothing to do in their countries end up in china to teach english????
is it because it is easier?
less work???
les trouble??
for the fact of beiing in a new country???
because they could not find a job in their country????
for the experience????
i am a little confuse here can anyone tell me??
thanks
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Be confused no longer. You are right. We all come to China to teach English as we have nothing to do in our home countries. Why? 'Cause there are a lot of people here who want to learn English. And yes, most of us cannot find work in our own countries as we are so dysfunctional. So yes, much easier here. Hope this clears it up.
Now, let me see, where did I set my drink...? |
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One_Brick_Shy
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Jan 27, 2006 - 03:38 PM |
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| travelinjack3 wrote: |
A buddy of mine back in the States is about to finish his certification to teach english but he doesn't have a job lined up here yet.
Where are the best places to look for those jobs?
Should he come over and then look here?
How does this bit work? |
Check out chinatefl.com or try a Google search under teach English in China. |
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SaraC
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Jan 27, 2006 - 03:58 PM |
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If Nanar747 is for real and not trying to be rude, I will answer him.
I taught English in a College in Shaanxi Province for one year 1996-1997. My reasons for doing this were:
- improve my Chinese (I did not have the cash to pay for a language program);
- learn about Chinese culture and daily life;
- have the experience of living in a foreign country;
- something to do after college and before grad school that once I had a real job or family I would never be able to do again.
I did not do if for money -- the pay was RMB 1500 a month plus an apartment.
I had no teaching certification or experience, but did offer something to the students that most of the Chinese teachers in the English department lacked -- the ability to speak English. All in all it was difficult but good experience, but I think much different from the English teachers in Shanghai, as I was the sole foreigner in a town of 300,000 people. |
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peter2883
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Jan 27, 2006 - 04:34 PM |
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If Nanar747 is for real and not trying to be rude, I will answer him.
I taught English in a College in Shaanxi Province for one year 1996-1997. My reasons for doing this were:
- improve my Chinese (I did not have the cash to pay for a language program);
- learn about Chinese culture and daily life;
- have the experience of living in a foreign country;
- something to do after college and before grad school that once I had a real job or family I would never be able to do again.
I did not do if for money -- the pay was RMB 1500 a month plus an apartment.
I had no teaching certification or experience, but did offer something to the students that most of the Chinese teachers in the English department lacked -- the ability to speak English. All in all it was difficult but good experience, but I think much different from the English teachers in Shanghai, as I was the sole foreigner in a town of 300,000 people. |
SaraC,
I applaud you for what you did... I think Teaching is a difficult job coupled with the fact of staying in a Foreign Country & not being able to speak the local language... On top of that you had a VERY low pay which didn't help...
I say give assistance to whoever has a question, if you do not have any info to provide then just ignore it...
My boss used to tell me there is no such thing as a Stupid Questions only Stupid Answers... Give the kids a break... Let them do it while they still can... Once they get married & have a family, what are the chances of them doing what they want to do now when they are 40-45???
Anyway I'm trying to offend anyone here... Just my personal opinion... |
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Beantown
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Jan 27, 2006 - 04:39 PM |
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I do believe there ARE stupid questions as well as stupid answers.
Anyways, I think we should direct our attention to Mr. travelinjack and provide some insight.
I think most people do their best if they secure a job from their host country before coming to China, especially if your friends wants a higher paying position. I do believe international schools pay the most. |
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Michael
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travelinjack3
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Jan 28, 2006 - 10:27 AM |
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Well nanar747, my friend has his own reasons for wanting to come here and teach English. I would expect that everybody's story is a little different. He came to visit my wife and I last summer (neither of us teach english, hence the questions) and really dug the place. He is one of our oldest friends, we have know each other for almost 15 years now and love the idea of hanging with him here the way we did back in the States.
Thanks for the leads, I have passed them on.
Thanks again,
Jack |
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nanar747
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Jan 28, 2006 - 11:30 AM |
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hello
i am not confused anymore thanks
i was asking the question because i meet some english teachers in bars and when i ask them they answer by.............. "i do not know"
anyway i am not a teacher and i work in a restaurant where i teach my guys cooking western food and of course since i speak very very little chinese i try to teach them english but it is not my profession or job just help them for futrure position in hotels or restaurants
the guy could try to contact the consulates in shanghai they should have some school names or numbers to call or even with the consulate he could find a position does it?????
anyway good luck
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DavidSackettMichigan
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Jan 28, 2006 - 04:09 PM |
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Advice to the job seeker: I found my job on http://shanghai.asiaxpat.com/ . I came to Shanghai without a job, thinking that I might get better offers if I waited to meet these people in person. Not sure if that was correct, but it worked out for me. I had 30 days for my turist visa, and I stayed at the Captain Hostel on Fuzhou road until I met an english guy who let me stay at his place until I could get some money to find an apartment. Quite unusual kindness, and even more so considering it's Shanghai, and not Alabama or somewhere. I think your friend should hold off until he gets a job for at least 10,000 RMB per month. Though as a previous poster mentioned, if you can get a job at an actual international school (where expats pay through the nose for private school) then of course take it. Anyone know the starting pay for these jobs? I hear it's at least 15-18K/ month, I've heard it as high as 30K. That might be pushing it. However it's almost February, I'm not sure if this is a good time to look for those jobs.
Any thoughts or comments? --Dave |
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