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Post  Posted: Feb 21, 2006 - 08:45 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

LOL... that's hot, but I think one is enough for me... I don't want to mix up any names then get slapped.
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Plenty of cool gals around. Just gotta find 'em...maybe they're hiding from you. Do agree that you should avoid bars with DOM + bar girls... go to cool bars and clubs. Mint, Park97, Bonbon, Fabrique, Windows...plenty of great places to hang out.
Think there are two types of dudes: the ones who are interested in local girls(some great ones. Not all of them are gold diggers. I know some expat girls who doesn't pay for anything and I want to slap 'em silly)
The ones who aren't and would prefer to date other expats, for common interests + culture...similar background.
Lots of love in Shanghai. Smile
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Can you guys define Expat for me? Yes technically I know what the word means. But different people have different definition.
For me - Expat is someone who has other country passport and don't think or act like the local Chinese. Chinese who lived in other country 5 years or so and somehow "obtained" a US or other passport s and come back to SH does NOT count as an expat!
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An expat is someone that grew up outside of china and now lives here. A chinese person who has lved in another country for an awhile then come back is still not an expat. They are chinese. A chinese person that was riased in another country then moved here is an expat
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I agree with you rxg.

I know a mainland chinese engineer who lived abroad for 15 years and now is here in Shanghai on a fat expat package deal. But after having worked with him and dealt with him after hours, I still consider him a local. He understands my viewpoints more often than a local but he still has a very chinese mentality because he grew up here. (I'm not saying this is good or bad, but just different).

On the other hand, anyone who has grown up in the west (or outside of mainland China for that matter) I consider them expat's regardless of their means of coming here (students, spouses, teachers, businessmen, rich bums, poor bums, etc...)

Back to the original topic, I also know of a single Expat girl who has not much luck finding a decent date. My theory is because everyone stays so busy in Shanghai. Also many expats are married so alot of the socialize venues are geared toward families. Many of the most popular bars and pubs here seem to try and be family friendly.
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Hello NewYorkFinest! Brooklyn, Bronx, Sta Island, Queens or Manhattan?
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Ha Ha Ha, I am an expat girl new to SHA. Considering this thread, I think I need some guidance of where the expat guys in the middle are... i.e. not students in their early 20s or guys in their 30s and married with an army of kids in tow... Any suggestions?
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Jettia, That is a rare breed you're after.
The only group I can think of in that age range and marital status is young english teachers. But most of them are here in China for one reason, because they are interested in chinese/asian culture (and coincidentally have the hots for chinese girls, therefore you have no chance unless you are an ABC).
Good Luck, and personally, if I were you I'd go for the students. They may be broke but they have plenty of free time for you.
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I'm not sure I can handle all this choice: - students - married - and now in another country....boo
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benkloepfer wrote:
Jettia, That is a rare breed you're after.
The only group I can think of in that age range and marital status is young english teachers.

I don't agree. I'm in that age range and unmarried and not an english teacher. I know a quite a few guys and girls who are professionals (engineers, artists, designers, consultants etc) here roughly the same age and unmarried. (okies I'm a bit closer to the 30 mark than some of them). What better place than a vibrant fast growing city for people like me to further our careers?

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I agree I am 23 and an American with a real job
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Jettia wrote:
I'm not sure I can handle all this choice: - students - married - and now in another country....boo


I wouldn't give up so easily Jettia. There's plenty of guys that fit your description in Shanghai. You'll just have to find them Very Happy Take beantown's advice (except perhaps Windows):
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Do agree that you should avoid bars with DOM + bar girls... go to cool bars and clubs. Mint, Park97, Bonbon, Fabrique, Windows...plenty of great places to hang out.

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Nice address - I bet you got lots of junkmails. Nice to meet you -- 52nd between Second and Third.
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arthid2004 wrote:

I live in Asia since 10 years ago. (Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand and now China) Why do I want to meet a western girl? Because with her I can talk, I can go to a bar and drink only, I can go to dance even like "dirty dance" and there is no need to end the night in my bed. She can be really my friend. What's wrong with that!!!
Unfortunately, all the asian girls I went out with, some way or another slept with me (not only slept)...................
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woah! objection to that. not ALL asians are like that. I am Singaporean and i just want to have a life and chill out in Shanghai minus the sleeping part. but i am put off as many think I am local and comes up with that "gleam" that shouts "i wanna be in your bed". Thus i choose to lie low and am now a hermit. Rolling Eyes

Just because asians look alike to you does not mean we are all from China! and some of us just needs friends here as much as white expats as we are away from our families and friends too. Perhaps your charm is too great but still do not think all asians like to sleep around! Shocked

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I thought most asians don't like to sleep around, I thought they were suppose to be really traditional and stuff... errrr
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kuldaen wrote:

know a quite a few guys and girls who are professionals (engineers, artists, designers, consultants etc) here roughly the same age and unmarried. What better place than a vibrant fast growing city for people like me to further our careers?

Yup. Lots of young eligible bachelors in Shanghai and most of them are really cool. Usu. well-traveled, fun, intelligent, outgoing...etc! Impressive, actually.
KULDAEN, I think you and I have similar friends. Most of my peeps are exactly what you've described - fabulous.

Advise you to go out and meet some cool peeps, both boys and girls. I've met 80% my friends in bars and clubs...hee. We love to go out for drinks, meet new people, laughing and dancing.
Be outgoing. Have fun. Engage people in conversations. People here are pretty open-minded.

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Beantown wrote:

Yup. Lots of young eligible bachelors in Shanghai and most of them are really cool. Usu. well-traveled, fun, intelligent, outgoing...etc! Impressive, actually.
KULDAEN, I think you and I have similar friends. Most of my peeps are exactly what you've described: fabulous.


I guess I am what you call "an exception." LOL, well, now we know there are lots of fun people around, but how do you get to MEET them? cuz that seems to be the hard part, maybe everybody should would a shirt that says, I am cool, fun, and outgoing, please talk to me...
PS Beantown, it was really nice to meet you.
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Funny threat... I am still below 30, but married to a HK-Chinese... my lengthy periods of singleness and botched relationships in my European hometown, attest to my preference for Asian women!

In general meeting people in SH is not all that easy, as the city is so big and people tend to go out in tested/cozy groups and mainly to restaurants or clubs. HK, where i previously lived, was much more open, smaller and bar-oriented. After all it is easier to meet people in a bar, then in a loud club.

I have some single female acquaintances who also keep bitching about men chasing after Chinese women. Those few men looking for caucasian women should have an easier job as there seem to be plenty around, and 'expats' prefer local women! Try your local gym for example Smile
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Maybe I'm just vain and lucky. Smile
Haven't had problem meeting new people or men for that matter. Many of my expat friends refuse to date local women. Some love them. Variety. SH group CAN get pretty tight... trick will be to find a 'maven' to connect you to the right people.

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Beantown wrote:

KULDAEN, I think you and I have similar friends. Most of my peeps are exactly what you've described - fabulous.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we have many friends in common too.

Beantown wrote:
Advise you to go out and meet some cool peeps, both boys and girls. I've met 80% my friends in bars and clubs...hee. We love to go out for drinks, meet new people, laughing and dancing.

I've been pretty much the same. I've only got a few friends at work and met most of my friends the same way, at parties, at clubs and bars and through other friends.

illini wrote:
I guess I am what you call "an exception." LOL, well, now we know there are lots of fun people around, but how do you get to MEET them?

Best way is through friends. all you need to do is meet one person who's going to introduce you to other people.

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maybe everybody should would a shirt that says, I am cool, fun, and outgoing, please talk to me...

I'm sure MTO will give a good discount if you want to order those in bulk Very Happy

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^^ Hehe. We were holding ourselves NOT to do self-promotion on this thread, but we couldn't resist Kuldaen's cue Smile

We wouldn't have a problem manufactuing one of these shirts Wink

And feel free to visit our NEW and IMPROVED website at http://www.mto123.com.

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Post  Posted: Feb 21, 2006 - 11:20 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Bernie is rite to noted that "In general meeting people in SH is not all that easy, as the city is so big and people tend to go out in tested/cozy groups and mainly to restaurants or clubs"... as I and my friends do that.

I am very friendly person when it comes to chit chat but often during dinner or any other meetings with my closed friends, I would purse my lips whenever strangers approach. Mostly I would let my friends being in charge to answer the curiousity or entertain the crowd... it doesnt mean I have no interest to get to know another people outside the group... but it really depends on the purpose of the gatherings. If I am at the coffee meeting or other 'letz meet up' gathering, it would be my purpose to go and actively look for new acquintances... but when I am tired and want to relax, I am not interested to fight for attention.

I like to be friends with guys but they were likely looking for fcuking buddies. Some remain friends with me as long as they could accept what I offer, not little left soon they figured I was not interested to do any 'stopover' at their places.

This is the reality, 2 years I have been in China... I hardly meet up with someone who could meet up my expectation. Talking for hours with anyone doesnt mean much, 'coz it could be more about quantity, rather than quality. Older guys are married or way too old to be considered... younger guys were way too young and do behave like the youngsters. Either way, the thought doesnt stir my interest. I know... I am darn picky... no wonder I join this thread... hehehheee...
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