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Has anyone seen a Hakka (客家) restaurant in Shanghai? I can't remember seeing one anywhere. However, if one exists I would like to try it out.
Was down in Meizhou recently and the food was impressive (food in Guangdong is always good). An excellent average standard, all the way from the slightly touristy 'Hakka restaurants' down to the street stalls selling changfen, shaomai, dog meat and the like.
The Hakka wine was also decent. Similar to Shaoxing wine. It's a dark sweet rice wine with fairly low alcohol. You drink it warm, slightly diluted with water, and with a slice or two of ginger added. Tasty stuff.
I bought a couple of home brewed bottles back with me but now they're finished. I just tried some dark rice wine from Carrefour but it isn't the same. Anyone seen the Hakka stuff in Shanghai?
The other thing about Meizhou was that people were so damn nice. I'm half tempted to move down there. |
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lancesidecar
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Apr 13, 2006 - 07:34 PM |
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I don't know about Shanghai, but last week I ate at a Hakka place in Beijing. It was called Lao Han Zi, on Bei Hei Lake, and the food was excellent. So next time you're in Beijing....
Would love to find a place in Shanghai. |
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knockknock_ca
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Apr 14, 2006 - 11:49 AM |
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There's one in HK Plaza, forget the name. But it's quite good. |
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Kiwi
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Cool, off to HK Plaza then. . . |
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yu888
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hmmm, so whatkind of foods are traditionally Hakka foods? i suppose having had many different kinds of foods in different parts of china has probably got my tastebuds confused ... |
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Apr 14, 2006 - 05:51 PM |
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I know a Cantonese one in HK Plaza, might be the Hakka one as well? Do not know for sure but would love to find out. |
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Apr 14, 2006 - 05:52 PM |
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Saw one in Lippo Centre (the one next to HK Plaza) 2nd or 3rd floor. The other one near Mandarin City in Gubei. I havent' tried any yet... |
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Kiwi
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Apr 14, 2006 - 06:22 PM |
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| hmmm, so whatkind of foods are traditionally Hakka foods? i suppose having had many different kinds of foods in different parts of china has probably got my tastebuds confused ... |
I'd like to know more about this myself.
Things I can think of:
- Tofu cubes stuffed with minced pork.
- Pork with pickled mustard greens (called 'mei kou rou' or something - can never quite remember). You can get this in Taiwanese restaurants here in Shanghai. The Taiwanese version tends to be sweet while in Meizhou it is drier.
- Salt baked chicken
- Herbal chicken soups with 药善 (Some kind of Chinese medicine that comes in little white chips. When in the soupt it has a faintly herbal and quite sweet taste. No idea what it actually is.).
- Hakka stir fry (客家小炒): with celery, squid, chile, garlic, dried tofu etc. This dish is ubiquitous in Taiwan but I didn't see it anywhere in Meizhou.
- Lei Cha. Powdered tea with medicinal herbs and stuff. It comes out quite bitter. Popular in Taiwan in some of the teahouses around Xinzhu. I have heard that this is an invention for the tourists, but have also heard it is traditional. I forgot to look for it in Meizhou.
I'd say the general taste of Hakka food is austere but hearty. There are lots of pickles and dried ingredients so the flavors tend to be concentrated. In Taiwan people like to say that a little goes a long way with Hakka food (Hakka have this reputation for being careful with money). There isn't much seafood or beef, mostly pork and poultry. It is a home cooking style without any fancy or elaborate banquet dishes. |
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Dong Jiang Dou Fu Pot (Minced fish ball, bean curd & cantonese lettuce in soup) 东江豆付煲
Mei Cai Kou Rou (stewed pork with vege pickle) 枚菜扣肉
Yan Ju Ji (Salt baked chicken) 盐焗鸡
Jian Rang San Bao (pan-fried tofu & peper & eggplant stuffed with minced fish) 煎攘三宝 |
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conniechong
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I'm a Hakka and do speak Hakka. Besides what Kiwi mentioned, I would like to add some info:
1. Tofu (Niang Dou Fu) minced pork + fish meat + spices stuff in tofu cube, balsam pear, brinjaul, black-headed mushroom, and get them fried.
2. Lei Cha(河婆擂茶)- hundred years ago, an old Hakka lady by the name of Ho Poh who ran a food stall along the road invented this special kind of herbal drink for passersby during hot summer days. And eventually Hakka evolved this Lei Cha. It can serve with dishes of vege, add with fried peanuts and garlic-fried rice. You can either pour this herbal drink with it or just eat it without mixed.
3. Suan Pan Zi (算盘子) - round little dumpling made of tapioca powder, steam it and fried with minced pork, a little black pepper, celery, dark sauce, decorate with spring onion.
I'll get everybody nice picture of Hakka food next time around, as I'll be back tomorrow for a one week holiday. |
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Apr 15, 2006 - 08:02 AM |
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1=醸豆腐 |
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Kiwi
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Apr 15, 2006 - 11:55 AM |
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Cool stuff Connie. I don't think I ever tried Suan Pan Zi.
So where was the Lei Cha invented?
Just out of curiosity, where are you from? There don't seem to be many Hakka people in Shanghai. Guess they have better sense than to live in a place like this. |
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Fyi, Chinese dialects like DaPu大埔, HuiZhou惠州, LuFeng陆丰, HePo河婆 are all belong to Hakka. For myself, I'm a HePo. My root is in Guangdong province. So, Kiwi, Lei Cha was invented in Guangdong, JieXi District揭西县.
There is only one Hakka guy in Shanghai that I once know of...
I will go to a HePo restaurant couple of days later and promise to take some nice photos. By the way, now I'm in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, my lovely home country... |
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In KL? Lucky you. Wish I was there. Have some Bak Kut Teh and Hokkien Mee for me while you are there. |
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Apr 17, 2006 - 11:58 AM |
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Hehe, my friend studying at Fudan Uni is Hakka too.  |
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kuldaen
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I have a couple of Hakka great-grandmothers. does that count? I didn't realised the mince-stuffed tofu my mother always made was from that side of the family.
My roots are in QianDong/SanRao which is about half way between MeiZhou and Shantou though I'm mostly ChaoZhou. |
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Try 惠佳美地客家菜 Huijia Meidi Hakka Restaurant at 2F, Lippo Plaza, try the 盐局鸡 Salted roast chicken and 豆腐羹 Tofu soup.
Pretty quiet place, rather original Hakka, much more expensive than any Hakka place in Guangdong for sure, forget whether they have Hakka wine, sorry. |
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Apr 25, 2006 - 07:02 PM |
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Okay, I've finished the food hunting back home. Try look at the photos at,
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1dc02/6b2/2/
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The Hokkien Mee like in that photo looks great. What is all the Hokkien Mee in Shanghai such rubbish?
There is a stall in the nightmarket in Kota Kinabalu. Great Hokkien Mee with fresh prawns in it. Cheap as. Amazing scent from the pork fat as you eat it. Kretek in the air too. On top of that the beer girls include a Guinness girl as well as the usual Heinekens, Stellas etc. She was an illegal from Kalimantan. Unfortunately she couldn't speak English and my Malay is crap. A real shame. I think my parents would have approved, right? |
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