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yu888
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May 18, 2007 - 11:37 AM |
 
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Well, as my son is now newly in Shanghai, I guess my parenting gene has kicked in again and so i am looking at water filters for drinking water and bathing water and have almost made a decision so now i move to air filters.
I am aware of the IQ air units sold by Viall Lifestyles which basically do everything IO need but not being on an expat packagge makes the price tag a little higher than I would like. Anyone else have any recommendations one that they are using and like? Pros/ cons? Comments welcome, thanks. |
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8lrr8
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May 18, 2007 - 02:01 PM |
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it may not necessarily be a good idea to raise your kid in as clean of an environment as u want. reason being once he gets out into the real world (i.e. outside of the protective shell that is your home), he may develop hypersensitivity to everything in the air. food for thought. |
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yu888
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May 18, 2007 - 04:09 PM |
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i realise that and of course he will have plenty of exposure to the "real world" as he will be outside the house for half the day. But wouldnt it be nice to have time in a cleaner environment where your body can clean out all the stuff you breathed in?
Anyhow, a particulate matter filter is my main goal since I dont belive my place has too many chemical contaminants anymore, having lived there for a few years already.
So air filter recommendations anyone? |
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8lrr8
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May 18, 2007 - 04:23 PM |
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| So air filter recommendations anyone? |
sorry, cant help. however a few more comments for your consideration:
i take it your goal is to provide him a clean home and ultimately to encourage a healthy lifestyle. in reference to air filters, i assume u worry about the crap that gets into his lungs in particular.
u should make sure he starts off w/ a superior diet and continues it thru his adult life. two areas of particular interest would be the ingestion of antioxidants and lots of cardio exercise. this will help him infinitely more than any air filter will, even one constructed by Allah. |
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liubei23
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May 18, 2007 - 04:31 PM |
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IQ Air is probably the best brand available in Shanghai, they are quite expensive however. Whatever you do, you want to make sure you get a HEPA filter and not rely on a ionizer. |
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lioralourie
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May 18, 2007 - 04:42 PM |
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hey I know of a Shanghai Mamas yahoo group who completed a successful co-op and got the maximum discount available (15%). That's no small sum, given the cost of the units.
This was a couple of months ago. If you approach the Shanghai Mamas, or the newly formed Shanghai Cafe (restricted membership, for Expats only) yahoo groups, you're almost certain to get a few friends together on a co-op purchase.
If I'm recalling correctly, all together you need 12 units to get the 15% discount. (3 units--5%, 7 units, 8%, or something like that.) Contact Leroy at Villa Lifestyles to get the details.
Shanghai Mamas is in the yahoo directory, with open enrollment. If you want into the Shanghai Cafe people need to find a friend who is a member, and get yourself invited as it is a private, restricted membership. |
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lioralourie
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May 18, 2007 - 04:47 PM |
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oh right, the beauty of the IQ air is that it essentially is a fantastic ultra fine HEPA filter with very very sound construction. Plus there is activated charcoal to remove certain chemical gases in the air. We got one Healthpro 250 (the best all around model) and one GC MultiGas specifically to add extra protection against very very tiny molecules of volatile chemicals (that constantly exude from walls after remodeling, particle board furniture, car fumes from outside, etc.)
The problem with regular hepa filters is that not only do they not control like activated charcoal, the air is actually allowed to flow around the filter''s edges and so it never reaches zero particles in the output air.
One IQ air in your home will do more than 10 YADUs, seriously. |
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yu888
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May 18, 2007 - 06:01 PM |
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Thanks LioraLourie, I have heard lots about the IQ air from Villa Lifestyles, but unfortunately for us our current budget, not being on a package and all restricts us from considering it at this point...even if you last comparason about Yadu's is true...sadly. Nonetheless, i apprecaite the first hand information and know that it will help other readers of this thread. And yes, Leroy is the Manager of Villa Lifestyles here in Shanghai so for more details, contact him. |
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liubei23
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That is understandable, IQ Air is very expensive. I personally use a Yadu, and the design seems reasonably effective, plus their cost will allow you to get one for each room if you so desire. If you want to get a foreign brand, there are Honeywell's that go for around the same cost as Yadu on Chinese auction sites and possible some stores.
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| Thanks LioraLourie, I have heard lots about the IQ air from Villa Lifestyles, but unfortunately for us our current budget, not being on a package and all restricts us from considering it at this point...even if you last comparason about Yadu's is true...sadly. Nonetheless, i apprecaite the first hand information and know that it will help other readers of this thread. And yes, Leroy is the Manager of Villa Lifestyles here in Shanghai so for more details, contact him. |
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currychook
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May 28, 2007 - 01:19 PM |
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So which stores sell these air filters^ what is the estimated outlay?
If anyone is leaving and wants to sell second hand, I'll be happy to check it out. |
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Lappen
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May 28, 2007 - 02:01 PM |
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What is the price of the HEPA filters at Villa Lifestyles. Phone? |
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CanadaKen21
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May 28, 2007 - 04:33 PM |
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I am looking for the pleated filters that would go over the air return vents to remove the dust particles from the air as the air conditioning system circulates the air back through the system. Very common in north america, probably manufactured in china, but haven't seen them here anywhere including B&Q, local hardware stores, etc.. Can anyone help. |
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canuckyyz
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May 28, 2007 - 09:22 PM |
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Interesting claim from www.yadu.com/eng/index.htm for KJ130:
"The indoor air pollution is 2 to 5 times higher than that of the outdoor. People spend more than 80% of their life time inside houses, so their health conditions are very much effected by the indoor air quality (IAQ)."
I have 2 Yadu KJ130s and will be selling them for about 50% of the purchase price before I depart from China near the end of this year.
The Air Pollution Index (API) was about 169 (Alert level 3B) in Shanghai on 2007-05-26. |
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Robtcb
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May 29, 2007 - 02:36 PM |
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The IQ Air filters were pretty pricey (4 figures in USD), but they certainly made my wife feel better, regardless of whether they work or not.
For the Filtrete filters...I know some people....if they are sold in China I'll post some locations to look for them at. |
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Robtcb
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May 29, 2007 - 03:01 PM |
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Update: those filters pictured above not available in China yet. Sorry
Check with your USA friends, maybe some will bring them over in their luggage. |
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yu888
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May 29, 2007 - 03:07 PM |
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wow, must be nice to have central heat and air with return ducts...thouggh probably a bit priocey on power consumption too i imagine. |
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jeannie5
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Aug 31, 2007 - 10:03 AM |
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hi yu888,
u got your air filter already?i bought the brand 'YADU' when i lived in beijing last time,one of the cheapest in town,maybe it's local brand but it's good as it acts as an humidifier too. I can't really use it here and shanghai is too humid in summer..but it will be useful too in the winters. u can order them online...try www.aiyingshi.com or www.leyou.com,think they can deliver free to your home |
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CaptainCook
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Dec 03, 2007 - 06:44 PM |
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Yu888, did you come up with an solution to your Air Filter problem? I am interested in having one for my place as well. |
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jenming
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I, too, am interested. If you find a reasonable brand, and can benefit from a group buy, let me know. |
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currychook
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I use Filtrete by 3M.- available in most supermarkets in Singapore. i did see them once in Carrefour, they might have stopped stocking it. Lasts abt two months, altho they advocate changing it once a month.
I once saw an ionizer/ air filter for sale (Honeywell) in HOLA. |
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yu888
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Dec 06, 2007 - 01:13 PM |
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Brands i have seen in teh local market so far:
IQ Air - 4 models - imported and sold by Villa Lifestyles. Very pricey but everyon that has it swears by them.
Yadu- best known local brand of Air quality conditioners including filters and humidifiers. They have a variety of filters including HEPA, Ionizers and Chemical filters (ie Formaldahyde) Sold by a variety of electronics appliance stores and online.
Phillips - has a couple models available in China. Seems to be an Ionizer. SOld at Yolo, also seen on Chinese site (TaoBao)
HoneyWell- sold locally at HOLA, several electronics appliance stores, and sometimes Carrefour. HEPA filters.
Other brands seen at HOLA but none looked tooa ttractive so don't remember what else they had. |
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CaptainCook
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After discussion and shopping at Yolo with Yu888 last weekend, I've decided to go with Yadu KJF2801S from Taobao. It has one year warranty from Yadu and all the filters and chemical with it. Saved about 30% in Taobao but needed help from colleage at work to get it. I've asked, no group discount... sorry "jenming". |
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yu888
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and to give a bit more details, the one CaptainCook opted to order retails at 4400rmb or so in the stores here in Shanghai. It has a HEPA filter system as well as a humidifier and Fromaldahyde filter option where water and a chemical are added to teh process to absorb Fromaldahyde fumes from the newly made furniture and paints and such in these newer apartments. Given that many good HEPA filters runs in the 2500rmb range, the deal is pretty good. |
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CaptainCook
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Actually, the price is more like 40% off the RRP in the stores.
The only down side, which I am working on at the moment, is that it doesn't come with an English users guide. I am thinking of calling Yadu unless anyone else have a better idea.
Once delivered, I will PM the seller's info to whoever is interested. |
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CaptainCook
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OK.... got it .... ran it for 3 days.... surprisingly the machine did not pick up too much Formaldahyde or dust particles... either we have a very clean apartment or I am not an expert with the machine yet (likely the later).
Called Yadu about an English Users Guide and they were very helpful, except that I still have not recieve the manual yet though I did managed to get a copy from a different source.
Supplier was good, machine delivered on time with proof of purchase (not receipt, 5% more for receipt) from a distribution company with date stamp for warrantee purpose. |
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