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chinalife
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Jan 09, 2008 - 06:05 AM |
 
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$60,000 us dollar/year + $1000/house perks/month |
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pooperscooper
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Location: walnut creek
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ShanghaiAdventure
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Jan 09, 2008 - 06:48 AM |
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Not bad a all; I came here on 47 + housing. (given I'm in my early 20's)
But you can live quite comfortably on that here. Just don't go to Paradise every weekend |
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Renovator
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Joined: Apr 18, 2007
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Location: Century Park & MA,USA
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Jan 09, 2008 - 06:50 AM |
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It is attitude, expectations and sense of humor much more than Salary and housing perks that will determine if you will have a miserable life in Shanghai with your package. Some people in Shanghai that make a mere fraction of your package are thrilled while others making several times what you will be making are miserable. |
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CoffeeHawk_0
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Jan 09, 2008 - 07:07 AM |
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kumlong
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Jan 09, 2008 - 09:32 AM |
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try to get that 1000usd as housing allowance and u can save more |
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Me_Again
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Jan 09, 2008 - 09:46 AM |
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Wherever you go, there you are! If you have a miserable life where you are now, you'll have one here too.
Why do people equate money to happiness? Money and materials don't bring happiness. I lived in Cambodia for 2 years and some of the happiest people I have met in my life were there, and they had nothing. |
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Michael
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Jan 09, 2008 - 10:14 AM |
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the way the question is formed indicates the mental attitude with which you are approaching this move. As mentioned, regardless of your income, its up to you to be miserable or not. |
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SnappySammy
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Joined: Nov 01, 2007
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Jan 09, 2008 - 10:15 AM |
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I think you need to find a wealthy older woman. Most Chinese woman who are single and in their 40's have a very low market value. Find one with money, bank all your earnings, and live off your worm. |
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fortune_nookie
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Jan 09, 2008 - 10:49 AM |
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With 72,000 USD per year you will be fine financially. As people have said mentally is up to you. Come here with no pre-formed notions or attitudes and an open mind and you will have a new experience that will last a life time.
Pick the place & area where you live carefully. Read previous posts & use the search feature to read the many threads on the subject.
Get some local friends to better try and understand the culture because saying it is different is an understatement. |
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chingiskhan
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Joined: Apr 24, 2007
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Jan 09, 2008 - 11:06 AM |
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I'm guessing you'll scrape by! |
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kumlong
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Jan 09, 2008 - 11:20 AM |
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cny3000 is more than enough to survive .... |
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Oomomo
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Jan 09, 2008 - 11:31 AM |
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Lifestyle, lifestyle and lifestyle.
I have gone through ups and downs in Shanghai, having struggled for a year or so without a regular income. I lived in a USD2,500 service apartment and had to downgrade to a RMB2,500 local apartment. Well, was life miserable...not at all. Looking back, the experience of living a run-down apartment with the locals was the most enjoyablel time of my life.
Most expats tend to overspend in Shanghai. If you are new to Shanghai, you wil likely to be attracted to KTVs like Paradise or LA Disco where the girls are more than willing to please. However, please stay away from those places. I am sure, and many will second, that you will have more trouble than happiness in going to those places.
Just my 2 cts worth. |
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dfoo
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Jan 09, 2008 - 11:33 AM |
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Why would anyone be attracted to paradise or LA disco? To meet hookers? |
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kumlong
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Jan 09, 2008 - 11:39 AM |
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winopete
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Jan 09, 2008 - 01:19 PM |
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On that salary, you'll be able to enjoy western delights (western pubs, western food) most nights, if that's what you want. You'll be fine. |
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underh20
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Joined: Sep 27, 2006
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Location: EOA Seminar
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Jan 09, 2008 - 01:25 PM |
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| chinalife wrote: |
| $60,000 us dollar/year + $1000/house perks/month |
Pretax?
Depends on what you are acustomed to, what obligations you have back home (i.e. mortgage) and your investment / retirement strategy. |
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Oomomo
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Jan 09, 2008 - 01:58 PM |
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Agree, watch out the income taxes in China. If it is pre-tax, you can expect a tax rate of 30-40%. |
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Oomomo
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Jan 09, 2008 - 02:03 PM |
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| kumlong wrote: |
| no fun but lots of sex |
Isn't sex fun? Even if we take out the sex part, some Ks in Shanghai can be rather fun.
If you are married, best bring your wife along with you to China. |
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sellhahaha
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Jan 09, 2008 - 02:22 PM |
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I am neither a local nor an expat. After graduation from my university this year, i found a job to do international trade which offers RMB4000($555.5 according to 7.2 exchange rate) per month with some bonus in the yearend. Without house allowance I donated RMB900 for house rental. It would be definitely a miserable life in your eyes, but i just live happily , do what i am able to do and play E-sports games(counter-strike) with my teammates in the weekend.
I just want to say everybody at different income level has their own way of making fun, this has nothing to do with how much they earn at all.
So why not try to have a personal experience about the Chinese culture such as spending a free afternoon in a teahouse and have a cup of Chinese famous tea, or put your attempt to communicate with the locals. You can also watch Chinese opera, taste seas of Chinese snacks with different regional styles.
Here there are lots of things providing considerable fun with little cost, much better than wasting a great amount of money bucking for sex thrills in the bars.
Whatever , its up to you to choose the way you live. |
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Oomomo
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Jan 09, 2008 - 02:31 PM |
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| sellhahaha wrote: |
I am neither a local nor an expat. After graduation from my university this year, i found a job to do international trade which offers RMB4000($555.5 according to 7.2 exchange rate) per month with some bonus in the yearend. Without house allowance I donated RMB900 for house rental. It would be definitely a miserable life in your eyes, but i just live happily , do what i am able to do and play E-sports games(counter-strike) with my teammates in the weekend.
I just want to say everybody at different income level has their own way of making fun, this has nothing to do with how much they earn at all.
So why not try to have a personal experience about the Chinese culture such as spending a free afternoon in a teahouse and have a cup of Chinese famous tea, or put your attempt to communicate with the locals. You can also watch Chinese opera, taste seas of Chinese snacks with different regional styles.
Here there are lots of things providing considerable fun with little cost, much better than wasting a great amount of money bucking for sex thrills in the bars. |
may i ask where are u from? |
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kumlong
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Jan 09, 2008 - 02:32 PM |
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honestly jin bi is terrible. many a times we get the girl asking us to buy her a phone. tian shang ren jian is even worse.
as for bringing wife to k, i dont think that is my style. i have seen guys bringing their wife to k and then calling girls. really weird |
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sellhahaha
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Joined: Nov 14, 2006
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Jan 09, 2008 - 02:34 PM |
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| sellhahaha wrote: |
I am neither a local nor an expat. After graduation from my university this year, i found a job to do international trade which offers RMB4000($555.5 according to 7.2 exchange rate) per month with some bonus in the yearend. Without house allowance I donated RMB900 for house rental. It would be definitely a miserable life in your eyes, but i just live happily , do what i am able to do and play E-sports games(counter-strike) with my teammates in the weekend.
I just want to say everybody at different income level has their own way of making fun, this has nothing to do with how much they earn at all.
So why not try to have a personal experience about the Chinese culture such as spending a free afternoon in a teahouse and have a cup of Chinese famous tea, or put your attempt to communicate with the locals. You can also watch Chinese opera, taste seas of Chinese snacks with different regional styles.
Here there are lots of things providing considerable fun with little cost, much better than wasting a great amount of money bucking for sex thrills in the bars. |
may i ask where are u from? |
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Chongqing, the fourth Municipality in Southwest China. |
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Oomomo
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Joined: Dec 17, 2007
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Jan 09, 2008 - 03:05 PM |
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Great, this is great. PM your skype or MSN address - stay in touch |
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woaishanghai07
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Jan 09, 2008 - 04:08 PM |
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| chinalife wrote: |
| $60,000 us dollar/year + $1000/house perks/month |
I hate you. |
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