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Post  Posted: Dec 26, 2007 - 04:55 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top
Post subject: Questions for Chinese

This thread is a place to post those common questions (and answers) about differences between East and West.

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1. Toilets - squatting is a nightmare here, the west wouldn't / couldn't do this (the old)

2. Food - somethings are great, other things are disgusting (dog on a stick)

3. Windows open in winter - ??? is all I have to say about that

4. No paper (napkins or toilet) anywhere - restaurants or otherwise BYOP

5. Difference in hygiene standards - less here

6. Text message instead of leaving a voicemail - west uses voicemail predominantly

7. Natural fear of dogs - the west views dogs as great pets

8. Warm / hot drinks - the east uses practically no icecubes in drinks

9. Chinese girls / women wear next to no makeup - the west is obsessed with this

10. Air / water / etc. are noticeably 'dirtier' / 'polluted' here

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I always carry a pack of tissues. NEVER take a chance that a bathhroom will have any.

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DS # 9 I think most Chinese woman use makeup. It's just not dark.

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I always carry a pack of tissues. NEVER take a chance that a bathhroom will have any.


This is SO true... I never take that risk.

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It's amazing what you can do with a pair of socks in the wrong circumstances...
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^ That would be my back-up plan.

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Post  Posted: Jan 21, 2008 - 01:48 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

^ or underwear.
Had a very "interesting" experince involving Thai Food and a Squat-ter toilet on a ferry on the way back from Samui once.....

"Houston. we have lift off...."

(Maybe TMI...?)

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I would shed my socks, underwear or t-shirt not to walk around with shiat in my pants or all over my ***cheeks. Curious what the locals would do in the same situation.... Cool Cool Cool

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Curious what the locals would do in the same situation....

Miles and miles of long-john material to make use of.
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"Socks" great back up. never thought of Socks. That should go into all-time China tips for foreigners.

also never eat the really great smelling and very good looking food on the Toll Roads Service Areas. I got very sick and the highway is not a good place to have stomach problems.

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I have just been holding it since I got hear.

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10. Air / water / etc. are noticeably 'dirtier' / 'polluted' here


This is actually a benefit. The water has flavor that surprises you every day. It is why I wake up in the morning.

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Post subject: Questions for Chinese on the forum

Weekends always fill me with a million questions about Chinese culture. I was hoping that some of the Chinese who are on the forum might be willing to answer a few:

1) At what age does a Chinese child learn the word and concept for foreigner? When they say weiguoren do they actually mean foreigner or do they mean white person?

2) Do Chinese and the Chinese language differentiate between "interesting" and "well-educated"? Can a person be one without being the other?

3) Is no longer wearing long underwear dependent on reaching a certain date or a certain temperature?

4) What is the iconic image of male sexiness? Would firemen or carpenters be considered sexy or does doing physical labor make them less desirable?

5) What's the purpose of walking backwards?
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Post  Posted: Mar 17, 2008 - 12:32 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

BTW, feel free to rename this Dumba$$ Questions from Foreigners.
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^not dumba$$ questions at all ... primate's got bad reputation for its insatiable curiosity on this planet.

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At what age does a Chinese child learn the word and concept for foreigner? When they say weiguoren do they actually mean foreigner or do they mean white person?


When I was 4 or 5, once my mom took me to the No.1 Department Store. We stopped at a counter that sold kids' shoes. I wanted a pair of red leather shoes which's not in my mom's budget. I wouldn't leave and started to cry. Two black people, might be a couple, stopped and smiled at me. My mom said to me something like "even Wai guo ren now is laughing at you bad little girl".

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2) Do Chinese and the Chinese language differentiate between "interesting" and "well-educated"? Can a person be one without being the other?


Do you speak Chinese? that makes a world of difference I think. My parents are from normal work class. When I was a teenager, I loved so much to go with my mom to her workplace. So much fun watching and listening to her co-workers joking and sharing at breaks.

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Is no longer wearing long underwear dependent on reaching a certain date or a certain temperature?


We quite stick to what the mom tells us ... Very Happy

well ... compared to the process of civilization of the west, life and daily living didnot change much for an ancient chinese thus learning from the seniors and olders and last couple of generations propably were enough to survive, thanks to the fact that China locates geographically on wide range of plains that's well-gifted to grow and raise thus they didnot have to travel and trade that much.

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What is the iconic image of male sexiness? Would firemen or carpenters be considered sexy or does doing physical labor make them less desirable?


Sexy or not has nothing to do with occupation I think.

The last generation ... well ... I have NEVER heard my mom or my uncles, no matter married or unmarried talking about "sexiness".

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5) What's the purpose of walking backwards?


Exercise. I often see old people doing that in parks in the morning too.

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Ps: I am in my early 30s. College educated. Work for foreign companies and firms ever since graduation.

Hope this helps.

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Post  Posted: Mar 17, 2008 - 09:38 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Great questions, especially #1 and #4. As 'physical workers' are seen pretty much as filth here (despite many being absolutely ripped, as you'll see in summertime when the shirts get unbuttoned, pulled up), I doubt you'll find (m)any local chicks hankering after a plumber or a sparky.... really, interesting question.

The walking backwards thing I think is to exercise different muscles AND (apparently) different parts of the brain involved in exercise. Probably.
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Thanks, dyniquee and findus.

Dyniquee, in the West we used to have this silly thing about the date at which it was okay to wear white shoes. You weren't supposed to wear them before Easter or after Labor Day. It was purely a fashion thing and one that is now pretty much ignored. I just wasn't sure if there was some similar thing about long underwear - like you're supposed to wait until the actual first day of spring before taking off that extra layer. I noticed that even on the recent day when the temperature was quite warm, my students were quite bundled up.
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sbergman wrote:
Thanks, dyniquee and findus.

Dyniquee, in the West we used to have this silly thing about the date at which it was okay to wear white shoes. You weren't supposed to wear them before Easter or after Labor Day. It was purely a fashion thing and one that is now pretty much ignored. I just wasn't sure if there was some similar thing about long underwear - like you're supposed to wait until the actual first day of spring before taking off that extra layer. I noticed that even on the recent day when the temperature was quite warm, my students were quite bundled up.


There also was a custom that only a Virgin Bride wore a white wedding dress. I think that also is pretty much ignored.


Do you think they wear the long underwear with the trapdoor
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Don't think so, except for the toddler crowd.
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sbergman wrote:

Dyniquee, in the West we used to have this silly thing about the date at which it was okay to wear white shoes. You weren't supposed to wear them before Easter or after Labor Day. It was purely a fashion thing and one that is now pretty much ignored. I just wasn't sure if there was some similar thing about long underwear - like you're supposed to wait until the actual first day of spring before taking off that extra layer. I noticed that even on the recent day when the temperature was quite warm, my students were quite bundled up.


Nowadays I don't wear long underwear in winter. Very Happy

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Don't think so, except for the toddler crowd.


The toddler crowd (and maybe a few hookers) wear the front and back open underwear and pants....
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There also was a custom that only a Virgin Bride wore a white wedding dress. I think that also is pretty much ignored.


I was watching "A Stitch in Time" on ICS. It said a century ago (??? can't remember), wedding dress didnot have to be white. Bride wore what she thought was best fit in the wedding. Quite similar to Chinese. Bride usually's got several wedding dresses for the banquet session.

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Great questions, especially #1 and #4. As 'physical workers' are seen pretty much as filth here (despite many being absolutely ripped, as you'll see in summertime when the shirts get unbuttoned, pulled up), I doubt you'll find (m)any local chicks hankering after a plumber or a sparky.... really, interesting question.


this is true. esp the shanghainese women. they will avoid every possible phycial contact as they could.

there is a name for those: "min2 gong1" ---- lower class worker from outside of shanghai who contributes to a great deal of shanghai's landscape. many of them have a year's wage overdue and are overworked. the commedy movie 'crazy stone' hinted the problem without getting censored...

hey walking backwards is challenging n fun! u should try it! hehehe

btw findus i enjoyed following ur tiger thread :p
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Post subject: Re: Questions for Chinese on the forum

sbergman wrote:
I was hoping that some of the Chinese who are on the forum might be willing to answer a few:
u dont have any chinese friends to ask this to (always thought u did)? just curious.

1. not sure, probably soon after they start grasping simple sentences, whenever that usually kicks in. 3-4 yrs old?

waiguoren = foreigner
bai ren = white person

just like hei ren = black person

if a kid associates waiguoren as a white person, that's just stupidity from his/her folks.

2. interesting is something like: you yi si. well-educated is closer to: you jiao yu. can be 1 w/o the other.

3. do u see people wear it during the summer? i've never.

4. i dont believe every american female thinks men in uniform are sexy. so i dont think there's necessarily an iconic image of male sexiness in chinese culture.

5. it suppose to exercise your hamstrings plus train your balance. something like that.
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