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genghis
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Apr 30, 2008 - 02:20 PM |
 
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Just curious to know what it involved in this process.
I have a dog that I rescued, and she's great. I'd love to take her to the States when I go back (no date planned). What's required to get a dog out of China and into the US? Has anyone tried this and what can I expect? |
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ocho97
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We brought our wonderful dog from the SCAA home in December and I have to say it was an easier process than anything else we've done in China! Make sure your dog is registered before you start the process. She basically just needs proof of rabies shots to get back in the States and there is no quarantine. We had to go to one office to fill out some paperwork ( I think it was down around xujiahui) and we needed copies of both my husband's and my passport, visas, her registration and then she was seen by an official govt. vet who gave her another rabies shot and then we were told to come back a week or so later to pick up the export license. We figured there would be some hassle or hang up or extra step they wouldn't tell us about til the end (this being China), but that was it! You cannot apply for the export license more than 7 or so days before your flight out I think. I flew Korean Air back to NYC with my dog in the hold and I was sooo worried about her but she made it to JFK no problem. Check with the airline before you go cause most have size requirements for the cage. The customs officials in the US needed to see the offiical Chinese export license and proof of rabies and we were out of there pretty quickly. Overall, not a difficult experience. PM if you want more info! |
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genghis
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May 01, 2008 - 12:37 AM |
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Thanks Ocho! Did your dog need to have a chip? I've heard that this is a requirement... |
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maneo
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genghis
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May 01, 2008 - 11:24 PM |
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Great, thanks for the information! I'm not leaving anytime soon, but when I do I'd like to be ready so I can take my dog with me! |
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ocho97
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Hey genghis, yes they did microchip our dog when we registered her, it's just part of the registration process. And Maneo, she had already had a rabies shot earlier that year, maybe they gave her an extra for good measure! or maybe some other kind of shot but we definitely didn't have to pay any "special" fees. Another person (australian) in our complex also was told one week-ish to apply/pick up the export license too so I'm pretty sure it's standard. |
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maneo
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May 02, 2008 - 10:30 PM |
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If your dog had a rabies shot from an approved clinic, it's likely the shot given was something else. You're not referring to the microchip "insertion," are you? That was some needle.
Anyway, there's supposed to be a 30-day waiting period after any rabies shot.
I had to go through a long discussion with the staff to get them to accept the rabies shot my dog got in another town. Also argued that since the dog was going to get another one upon landing in SG (followed by a 30 day quarantine there) that there was no need to subject him to another rabies shot just before leaving.
After much discussion and escalating up to the supervisor, managed to get the paperwork without the additional shot (and 30 day wait). I did have to pay an expedite fee (but I did get a fa piao). |
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slackrz
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Hi, Sorry for the hijack but I have some questions about exporting dog to Singapore.
We're moving our dog with us to Singapore. Usually we fly our 2.3kg dog in the cabin but we can't find an airline who will take dogs in cabin from Shanghai. SQ won't even take her at all because she's a terrier. We have a quarantine reservation in Singapore for Monday and just found out Tuesday that SQ won't take her. Super stressful!
So we planned to take her via China Eastern. China Eastern says she can ship cargo but they need her health certificate 7 days prior to shipment, but as I understand it the health certificate is applied for 7 days prior to departure and it's ready 1-2 days prior to departure.
Are there any airlines that I can ship my Yorkshire Terrier in cabin to Singapore? Or as excess baggage? (I suspect it's the shipping Cargo that's causing the extra costs.)
I was thinking maybe we could go ANA via Tokyo but then I wondered if that will cause me to need to meet Japanese requirements which I'd have to figure out.
If anyone has done this can you pls explain how this process works if a dog is shipped cargo? I have a super high quote for export customs clearance and so many other things.
Thanks in advance for your help!! |
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maneo
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You mentioned that you usually fly your 2.3kg dog in the cabin.
When was the last time you did this and on what airline?
Don't believe that any international airlines allow dogs within the cabins anymore.
SQ took our dog as "accompanied baggage" (both ways).
Were you considering to ship the dog by China Eastern, but fly SQ?
If so, then this is the reason the dog is being considered cargo (quite expensive).
Cost for our dog to return to SG as accompanied baggage was 100 RMB per kg (half of the 1000 RMB was for the IATA carrier).
Believe it's best to go with direct flights, especially now that it's almost summer.
The transit and ground time are the most stressful for the animals.
Don't know where SQ came up with their recent list of dog breeds and cross breeds not accepted for travel. Can understand the concern about snub-nosed dogs, but their list covers most popular breeds. Made no sense, especially for our dog, since he had already survived the trip to China 4 years before.
Avoided any issue by listing his breed as "mutt" on all paperwork.
With his fur freshly shaved off, he looked like a Chihuahua grande. 
Read up on the articles regarding the snub nosed dogs and see if you can reason with SQ. You might get them to relent. Are you taking the late night (midnight) flight? Temperature should not be an issue with that flight.
Not sure why you think China Eastern would be a problem for paperwork (export permit, health certificate and SG import permit). Even the SQ site states "All valid health certifications/documents should be arranged at least 7 days prior." I could not get my dog's export permit until the day before the flight. Had to fax the export permit to the airport office as soon as I got it.
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maneo
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May 08, 2008 - 03:17 AM |
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| genghis wrote: |
| Great, thanks for the information! I'm not leaving anytime soon, but when I do I'd like to be ready so I can take my dog with me! |
Check on the procedure again 2-3 months before you do plan to go.
The only constant in CN seems to be change. |
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That's so nice of you genghis, you've found a new member for your family!  |
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shanghaiceltic
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We have just taken two cats out of China and I believe the procedures are the same for dogs too.
The cats had to be chipped and checked initially and given some shots. 28 days laeter they had another medical check and 7 days after that they were allowed to fly.
In our case becuase we relocated to Aus they had to go via Singapore where they had to go through a one month quarantine. Again because of Aus rules and regulations they have to stay in Singapore for 5 months and then they will be allowed to come onto Perth. On arrival in Aus they have yet another month of quarantine.
We flew them out on Singapore Airlines as we had been told that China Eastern, though cheaper were not as good.
We use the company below to do all the vaccinations etc. However you may have to book your own flights and have the animal listed as excess baggage. If you do that then you will have to go to the cargo area of Pudong to get the animal checked in and then go onto the normal passenger area.
WORLDCARE PET TRANSPORT (SHANGHAI) CO., LTD.
Apt. E, 19th Floor, YiYuan, XingNan Garden, No.393, ZhaoJiaBang Rd., Shanghai 200032, China
TEL: +86 21 5452 0643
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maneo
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May 11, 2008 - 10:49 AM |
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| shanghaiceltic wrote: |
| However you may have to book your own flights and have the animal listed as excess baggage. If you do that then you will have to go to the cargo area of Pudong to get the animal checked in and then go onto the normal passenger area. |
Has something changed?
We checked our dog in through as accompanied baggage at the SQ check-in counter, the same as luggage.
Had to go to another window to pay for his "ticket" (excess baggage charge). After that, someone then came out to take the carrier in.
Very efficient - all done within 5-10 minutes. |
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