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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 04:32 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

I was leaving the pub at the OP's original posted time, so wouldn't have noticed it anyway Razz

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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 04:33 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

If you are in the office or at home, get under a desk or a table. If you are outside, stand clear of falling glass and other objects. If you are at home, turn off the gas! If you can, buy water and some canned stuff just in case. Make sure you have a flashlight and a radio with some batteries. And a lot of beer.
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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 04:39 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Do IKEA desks and tables count as protection or no?
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tonight i think i need to sleep with clothes on and can't bring any gals back and sleep naked! else, it'll be havoc if people start running and evacuate the building...geez, 7.8??

*nothing much felt in the office as the building is not a high-rise building!

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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 04:55 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

woaihuan wrote:
Do IKEA desks and tables count as protection or no?


Most IKEA desks and tables are made of fiber board or laminates. As such, although something is always better than nothing, they would not be my first choice for protection.
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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 04:58 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

so which brand desk would protect you from the upper floors crashing in on your head?

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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 04:59 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

maybe you need more girls ash, more cushion in case stuff falls.

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中国地震局刚刚发布公告:北京时间08年05月12日14点30分左右北京局部地区发生2级轻微地震 另 警告在08年05月12日晚 22点至24点时间段北京局部地区还会有2-6级地震 望大家提前做 预防 措施 --中国地震局

Thats actually funn b/c the way i read it was a prediction for 2.0-6.0 aftershocks between the times of 10-12pm. conspiracy theorists would have to latch onto that warning and wonder whats REALLY up...?

obviosuly i must be wrong right?

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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 05:05 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

On of the few good things about the high rise buildings and apartmens in SH...they are made out quite good reinforced concrete. At least the the ones which were build in the last 10 years or so.
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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 05:19 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

China deploys head-banging snakes for earthquake prediction!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/29/china_earthquake_snakes/

But they didn't teach them to write email and warn folk...
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hmmm, in theory its reinforced concrete but i wouldnt be surprised if 20% or more of the reinforcing rebar was pulled or undersized in many cases by unscrupulous construction types as a way to make more money. Sad And yes, i worked on a construction site and saw attempts at it first hand even as late as 2004/5.

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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 05:58 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

DonCoyote wrote:
so which brand desk would protect you from the upper floors crashing in on your head?


none of course, but really in most cases its falling debris like ceiling tiles or sheetrock or lamp assemblies that are of the greatest concern. So despite the Ikea-like desks many here work on, those WILL afford that level of protection.

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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 06:06 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Here's some of what the networks are saying:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,355036,00.html

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/05/12/china.quake/index.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSSP23973420080512

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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 06:08 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

http://www.iris.edu/seismon/zoom/events/?lon=103.2668&lat=31.0844

I see they already had quite a few aftershocks.....

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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 06:16 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

i didnt know that shanghai was inside the earthquake zone. anybody knows the strongest earthquake in shanghai during the last 10-20 years? because 7.8 is really strong and i suspect many buildings in shanghai are not strong enough
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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 07:11 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

As far as I know, Shanghai has never been particularly close to the epicenter of an earthquake. Here is a map of the major areas of seismic activity in China.

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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 07:44 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

thanks
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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 07:47 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Pretty much at the centre of that cross then.

Soviet Union? Outer Mongolia? Burma? t¡bet? What're they?
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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 08:15 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Sorry to hear about the 8000 people (edited) reportedly killed in Sichuan. On the 27th floor near the Pudong Intercontinental, my reaction was that chicken I ate for lunch was getting its final revenge. Apparently as designed for earthquakes, our office building definitely swayed back and forth several times. Then, I learned a lao wai earthquake virgin knows better than some locals to take the stairs (unlike some who wanted to wait for the elevator) and to clear out from directly underneath a building's possible fall line (unlike some...).

Also, my local predecessor had zero evacuation, emergency, or employee communication plans. All well and good, but not if clients in a few other markets and time zones actually pay to know you're getting their work done and have plans in case "stuff" happens to shift responsibilities elsewhere. Or, maybe you actually give enough of a carp to know your employees are OK (How about a mobile phone list? Nope). Great stuff along with knowing the building actually swayed as designed, yet someone else now has some new responsibilities Tuesday.


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for 5 hours, we don't see any real news from the site, no any kind of real video or pictures even audio transfered out of the site, while CCTV is still broadcasting it's routine 30 mins news and all the commercials, Sichuan stations is broadcasting it's local great forums... is there anybody feels strange or uncomfortable about this?

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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 08:50 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

CNN reporting 900 children buried under rubble of school building
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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 09:07 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

BBC reporting 3000 - 5000 dead and the Edinburgh University earthquake report lists 14 aftershocks.

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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 09:38 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

wizzard wrote:
for 5 hours, we don't see any real news from the site, no any kind of real video or pictures even audio transfered out of the site, while CCTV is still broadcasting it's routine 30 mins news and all the commercials, Sichuan stations is broadcasting it's local great forums... is there anybody feels strange or uncomfortable about this?


Relax, the state does not want you to have to worry about this. All will be well shortly. Premiere Wen Jiao Bao is flying in to PERSONALLY supervise the rescue and recovery operations. He is even wearing a windbreaker--fully zipped--to show he means business.
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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 09:53 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

yu888 wrote:
hmmm, in theory its reinforced concrete but i wouldnt be surprised if 20% or more of the reinforcing rebar was pulled or undersized in many cases by unscrupulous construction types as a way to make more money. Sad And yes, i worked on a construction site and saw attempts at it first hand even as late as 2004/5.


I think the buildings will be ok. However the windows will blow out. The windows will not withstand anything close to a earthquake. Watch out for flying or falling glass.
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Post  Posted: May 12, 2008 - 10:02 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

icyfrosty wrote:
Plaza 66 is also evacuating people now. Strange... nothing felt here in Jinqiao.


That's called lunch time. Wink

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