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huh? |
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Don't worry; it's an imposter and obviously a set-up.
The real Miss Liberty would never wear a bra.
Must be a Russian prostitute. |
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Am I proud to be an American?
Hells yeah. |
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she uses her torch as a dildo. |
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I'm not. |
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EVERYONE in the world bashes America, until the **** hits the fan (natural disaster, tyrannical dictator, world corruption or criminal activity) - then the U.S. is the first place those same groups turn whining with their hands out for either financial or military 'assistance'.
FCUK YEAH, I'm proud to be an American and tired of being the world's babysitter and police officer. The rest of the world needs to get off of it's dead asss and start contributing to the One World Government that we live in [NWO].
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p1atl10
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Although stated in stronger terms than I would normally use....Yup! Me too.
For Hambone and the bashers out there....
Myanmar Typhoon...
- China...a country that has been there politacl ally contibuted 1 million USD to their relief.
(Source: Shanghai Daily)
- US. $3.5 million from the government (Source AP News) Do not have any figures for private and non-governmental sources.
US citizens are the largest single donors of private aid in the world. To the tune of 65 billion dollars annually.
Sometimes I am not proud of what my government does.
What citizen of any country is always 100% behind everything their governments do...?
But damn proud of my country and the people who live there. |
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hc
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^ You just forgot to check the aid as a % of GDP column, in which the US is the lowest in the OECD.
Further: you forgot to mention the donations that are tied to political/religious views.
Want an example? The US withdrew donation of condoms in African countries that did not subscribe to sexual abstinence.
Thanks god nobody has AIDS in Africa. Imagine if they did!
The whole aid thing is a complex subject: countries that impose commercial tariffs to agricultural products of dirt poor nations but give money in the form of "aid" tied to political subservience. Great way to force them to eat from your hand.
"then the U.S. is the first place those same groups turn whining with their hands out for either financial or military 'assistance'. "
Completely retarded, highly disappointing.
You mean assistance like in Chile (deposing a democratically elected president)? Or assistance like in Vietnam (financing a corrupt government and waging war)? Or perhaps assistance in bombing Cambodia illegally (which resulted in the creation of the Khmer Rouge)? Assistance in Iraq? Or perhaps in Indonesia, where Timor Leste was invaded and massacred with American weapons hours after Ford and Kissinger left Indonesia?
Or what about assistance to the kids in Vietnam being born as I type this with birth defects because of Agent Orange that the US dumped in Vietnam and never cleaned AND refused any form of aid other than "scientific cooperation"?
Funny that I saw you two complaining about some Chinese posters here being brainwashed.
You guys are much worse: you have all information in the world at your disposal but never bothered learning the real story. Fucking pathetic.
GO CLEAN THE AGENT ORANGE IN VIETNAM.
THEN YOU TALK ABOUT "ASSISTANCE".
Ha.
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AlterNet
Agent Orange Deforming a Third Generation in Vietnam
By Tom Fawthrop, Comment Is Free
Posted on February 13, 2008, Printed on May 14, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/story/76712/
Long after the last bullet has been fired in a war, unexploded bombs, landmines and toxic chemicals continue to maim and kill civilians. This is particularly true of the Vietnam war. Three decades after US soldiers and diplomats scrambled aboard the last planes out of Saigon in April 1975, the toxins they left behind still poison Vietnam. Relations with the United States have been normalized since the 1990s, but the denial of justice to the victims of Agent Orange remains a major bone of contention.
Not only are Vietnamese still maimed from treading on unexploded bombs, they are also victims of this insidious scourge that poisons water and food supplies, causing various cancers and crippling deformities. Eighty million liters of Agent Orange were sprayed on the jungles of Vietnam, destroying swathes of irreplaceable rainforest through massive defoliation and leaving a toxic trail of dioxin contamination in the soil for decades. The legacy of this chemical warfare can even be inflicted on the unborn, with Agent Orange birth deformities now being passed on to a third generation.
In the 3,160 villages in the southern part of Vietnam within the Agent Orange spraying zone, 800,000 people continue to suffer serious health problems and are in need of constant medical attention. Last month, members of a US Vietnamese working group reported that it will cost at least $14 million to remove dioxin residues from just one site around the former US airbase in Danang. The cost of a comprehensive clean-up around three dioxin hot spots and former US bases is estimated at around $60 million. The $3 million pledged by US Congress last year is a pathetically inadequate amount set against the billions spent in waging war and deploying weapons of mass destruction.
The recent study of one Agent Orange hot spot, the former US airbase in Danang, found dioxin levels 300 to 400 times higher than internationally accepted limits. The study confirmed that rainwater had carried dioxin into city drains and into a neighboring community that is home to more than 100,000 people.
Dr Arnold Schecter, a leading expert in dioxin contamination in the US, sampled the soil around former US airbase in Bien Hoa in 2003 and found dioxin levels that were 180 times above the safe level set by the US environmental protection agency. The US government was aware of these findings (pdf) back in 2003.
The US government's Veterans Administration officially recognizes 13 medical conditions linked to Agent Orange and provides free medical treatment to US soldiers who can prove their exposure to the herbicide. But Washington has adamantly denied all responsibility and evaded any kind of accountability for the estimated four million Vietnamese soldiers and civilians who suffered far greater exposure to the dioxin than the US war veterans.
In February 2004, the Vietnamese Association of Victims of Agent Orange (VAVA) filed a class action law suit in a New York court, against Monsanto, Dow Chemicals and 35 other manufacturers of the herbicides deployed in Vietnam. The plaintiffs and their lawyers deliberately chose the very same court that had presided over the only previous lawsuit brought against Agent Orange manufacturers, by US war veterans.
The original lawsuit was settled in 1984, when seven American chemical companies paid out $180 million to 291,000 US citizens over a period of 12 years. The out-of-court settlement was linked to a let-out clause for the chemical companies that refused to accept liability, claiming the science did not prove that Agent Orange was the cause of a diverse range of cancers, autoimmune diseases and birth deformities. In 2005, a US court predictably rejected the Vietnamese claim for massive compensation in respect of war crimes and crimes against humanity inflicted on the civilian population. It is still being appealed in the US courts.
Why has Washington been so doggedly determined to deny any compensation to Vietnamese victims, even refusing to come up with humanitarian aid? A clue can be found in the intervention of the White House counsel in the Vietnamese lawsuit against the chemical companies. The US government intervened to argue that if the court permitted the case to prosper, it would undermine national security and limit presidential options in a time of war.
In the New York Court Seth Waxman, defense counsel for the chemical companies, argued there was a lack of legal precedent for punishing those who used poisons during warfare, and said US battlefield decisions could be harmed. "This does affect our ongoing diplomacy," he said, citing the use of depleted uranium shells by US forces in Iraq.
To accept US responsibility for Agent Orange could expose Washington to claims relating to the use of napalm, phosphorous bombs and various My Lai-type massacres.
Tragically, hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese victims are denied compensation because the US government and its military want no limits placed on their arsenal of weapons, and few restrictions on their methods of interrogation and torture. They are also deeply anxious to guarantee that international justice is confined to putting developing nations and other weak regimes in the dock -- Rwanda, Sierra Leone, and Serbia. The US government, in refusing to sign up to the international criminal court, has ensured that they are beyond the reach of international law.
Editor's Note: To learn more visit The Vietnam Agent Orange Relief and Responsibility Campaign.
A London-born journalist, Tom Fawthrop has extensively covered the developing world. He has been working in South-East Asia for the past 25 years and is currently based in Chiangmai, Thailand.
He is co-author of Getting away with Genocide, the history of the Cambodia Tribunal.
© 2008 Comment Is Free All rights reserved.
View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/story/76712/
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hc
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p1atl10
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May 14, 2008 - 11:27 PM |
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^ You just forgot to check the aid as a % of GDP column, in which the US is the lowest in the OECD.
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No I did not.....16.7 billion aproximately total....but tied with Greece at 0.016% of GDP, and ony 0.01% behind Japan
No argument at all about the % of GDP statistics.
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp
"USA’s aid, in terms of percentage of their GNP has almost always been lower than any other industrialized nation in the world, though paradoxically since 2000, their dollar amount has been the highest. (Only since 2004 have they move up from last place, by just one or two places.)"
Read what I said oh nit-picky one.
Proud of my fellow US Citizens.....and the fact that if you add in the additional 64 billion.
We are in fact, at the top of the list, in the % of GDP.
NOT proud about the actions of the US Government at all times. |
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hc
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Okay let me see if I get it right.
Let's say we have a guy that makes 1,000,000 USD per year and a guy that makes 1,000 per year.
Both donate 500usd to the poor.
What you are saying is that you are really proud of the millionaire.
Interesting view.
"We are in fact, at the top of the list, in the % of GDP. "
You will have to do some Enron style data manipulation to prove that one babe.
"NOT proud about the actions of the US Government at all times."
I thought Democracy that America is so proud to try to force down the throat of other countries is a system that "represents the people"? Looks like now, when convenient, the US Government and the people are completely dissociated from each other?
Interesting....very telling too....
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DesertSpider
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^ You just forgot to check the aid as a % of GDP column, in which the US is the lowest in the OECD.
Further: you forgot to mention the donations that are tied to political/religious views.
Want an example? The US withdrew donation of condoms in African countries that did not subscribe to sexual abstinence.
Thanks god nobody has AIDS in Africa. Imagine if they did!
The whole aid thing is a complex subject: countries that impose commercial tariffs to agricultural products of dirt poor nations but give money in the form of "aid" tied to political subservience. Great way to force them to eat from your hand.
"then the U.S. is the first place those same groups turn whining with their hands out for either financial or military 'assistance'. "
Completely retarded, highly disappointing.
You mean assistance like in Chile (deposing a democratically elected president)? Or assistance like in Vietnam (financing a corrupt government and waging war)? Or perhaps assistance in bombing Cambodia illegally (which resulted in the creation of the Khmer Rouge)? Assistance in Iraq? Or perhaps in Indonesia, where Timor Leste was invaded and massacred with American weapons hours after Ford and Kissinger left Indonesia?
Or what about assistance to the kids in Vietnam being born as I type this with birth defects because of Agent Orange that the US dumped in Vietnam and never cleaned AND refused any form of aid other than "scientific cooperation"?
Funny that I saw you two complaining about some Chinese posters here being brainwashed.
You guys are much worse: you have all information in the world at your disposal but never bothered learning the real story. Fucking pathetic.
GO CLEAN THE AGENT ORANGE IN VIETNAM.
THEN YOU TALK ABOUT "ASSISTANCE".
Ha.
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I think you missed my point, I said: "With all due respect and thank you for supporting the NWO"
There's some tainted sarcasm buried in there if you read it again.........  |
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p1atl10
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Further, what's the % of this 65 billion that are remissions? And what's the percentage going to cases such as Agent ORange in Vietnam?
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And what is the percentage going to Sulabia?
(As long as we are throwing rocks for not supporting goodd causes....)
Throw whatever you want HC.....we are not going to get anywhere here.
You have a hard on about some valid points about retribution for some horrible acts that occured in the past
(Just out of curiosity....How much money have you contributed to the Agent Orange Victims? I give every year...
I am a Viet Nam era American....one of my friends from High School died three years ago from cancer.....probably caused by his exposure in 'Nam)
The 65 Billion is real dollars spent in 2007....not pledged. Nice try.
And at the end of the day....I stand by my OPINION that my many of my fellow Americans are the most generous on earth....and I am proud of them for that.
You stand by your OPINION that we and our government should be lumped together indiscriminately and called to task for all mistakes the government has made in the past...
I see only one resolution......
Beer Bottles at 10 Paces!!!!
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| You stand by your OPINION that we and our government should be lumped together indiscriminately and called to task for all mistakes the government has made in the past... |
Sorry, this is one where you definitely lose. Sure, where some agency makes a mistake, screws something up, passes one or two regulations that turn out to be monumental disasters then one cannot lump together the government and the population.
But normally, so sad too bad. The people of the United States are totally and irrevocably responsible for situations such as the later Vietnam war (the truth was widely available by 1966), the disregard of the United Nations and everything it seeks to achieve, the Monroe Doctrine crippling South America, our countless little Iran-Contra fiascos, the dozens of banana republic dictators we support, the absolute brain-dead war in Iraq instigated under the falsest of pretenses, the Congress of the US hounding a sitting president over a blow job then cheering on the next asswipe who halfway destroys the known world because Hussein dissed his Daddy -- all this shit the population of the United States is directly responsible for. Oliver North is a hero ... and Calley did all of six months before he was pardoned. Disgusting.
You people re-elected that lying ignorant two-bit cocksucking son of a bitch long after it was obvious what a menace to civilization he was. You currently justify voting for yet another member of that exact same group of swine that have decimated everything decent that the United States stood for.
Please don't hand me that crap about 'the people and the government are not the same." In the United States, "the people" choose the government. "The people' are directly responsible for the evil government. If we make a mistake, so be it. But in this case you did it again four years later.
There is no excuse.
Forget the 'have your cake and eat it too' shit. You voted for them, they belong to you, you are responsible for their actions.
Obama may be a loser, he may be black or green or from Mars or maybe he couldn't run a hot dog stand without going broke, I do not give a damn. He is not a Republican and member of the group responsible for the disaster that is the United States today. Homeland Security, sieg heil !! |
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Nathalie25
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no american, no shanghaiexpat, I hve to say,yeah,over~~~~~~~ |
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I like americans, over~~~~~ |
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hc
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| You stand by your OPINION that we and our government should be lumped together indiscriminately and called to task for all mistakes the government has made in the past... |
Sorry, this is one where you definitely lose. Sure, where some agency makes a mistake, screws something up, passes one or two regulations that turn out to be monumental disasters then one cannot lump together the government and the population.
But normally, so sad too bad. The people of the United States are totally and irrevocably responsible for situations such as the later Vietnam war (the truth was widely available by 1966), the disregard of the United Nations and everything it seeks to achieve, the Monroe Doctrine crippling South America, our countless little Iran-Contra fiascos, the dozens of banana republic dictators we support, the absolute brain-dead war in Iraq instigated under the falsest of pretenses, the Congress of the US hounding a sitting president over a blow job then cheering on the next asswipe who halfway destroys the known world because Hussein dissed his Daddy -- all this shit the population of the United States is directly responsible for. Oliver North is a hero ... and Calley did all of six months before he was pardoned. Disgusting.
You people re-elected that lying ignorant two-bit cocksucking son of a bitch long after it was obvious what a menace to civilization he was. You currently justify voting for yet another member of that exact same group of swine that have decimated everything decent that the United States stood for.
Please don't hand me that crap about 'the people and the government are not the same." In the United States, "the people" choose the government. "The people' are directly responsible for the evil government. If we make a mistake, so be it. But in this case you did it again four years later.
There is no excuse.
Forget the 'have your cake and eat it too' shit. You voted for them, they belong to you, you are responsible for their actions.
Obama may be a loser, he may be black or green or from Mars or maybe he couldn't run a hot dog stand without going broke, I do not give a damn. He is not a Republican and member of the group responsible for the disaster that is the United States today. Homeland Security, sieg heil !! |
Good post, Tiger.
I love how people are all "democracy" and "freedom" until the point they are made responsible for their choices. Then it's all "they" the government, "we" the people. |
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p1atl10
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We, in all things in our lifes, unfortunately sometimes have to lie in the bed we make.
Old Tiger....Curious.
Not looking for a fight. But did you vote in the last Presidential Election?
I only ask because of your repeated use of "you people".... |
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| leidelaohu wrote: |
You people re-elected that lying ignorant two-bit cocksucking son of a bitch |
Jeez, when you put it that way, I might have to rethink my answer...
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| leidelaohu wrote: |
| Obama may be a loser, he may be black or green or from Mars or maybe he couldn't run a hot dog stand without going broke, I do not give a damn. He is not a Republican and member of the group responsible for the disaster that is the United States today. |
so if i'm not mistaken, what u're really saying is that republicans, or those that voted for the bushes, are responsible for the current fuck-up that is known as the United States of America. did i get that right? |
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