CONSOLIDATED - Earthquake Thread
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Thanks so much to SXD for the updates from there.
On the "what to do" front... blood donated!
Here's a picture of a picture of some of us at the blood donation today mentioned earlier by yu888. There were 4 of us donating blood today.
It was clean, the process was swift and efficient, and they gave some goodies to eat, plus a prize bag including crackers, milk, and (in mine) an electric rechargable razor!  I traded it in for a hand-powered flashlight/torch shaped like a pig, and a magnetically levatating pen.
There are more chances soon to donate blood (listed above by littlefox), so you've got no excuses. |
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Portsmouth
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May 14, 2008 - 05:48 PM |
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All,
For anyone who is interested in donating and get a US, Canada or Hong Kong tax deduction, here is one option:
http://www.halfthesky.org/
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“In cooperation with the ministry (Ministry of Civil Affairs of China), we have now set up the Half the Sky Children’s Earthquake Fund. Your donations to the fund will be used to provide emergency and long-term relief to children affected by the disaster. Relief will include emergency shelter, food, and medical care for children orphaned or separated from their families. It will include temporary or long-term foster care or, when necessary, temporary institutional care.
We have a commitment from the ministry that we will receive regular updates on the use of funds and, most important, the well-being of the children.” |
Half The Sky has a lot of supports from adoptive parents and others. I believe they have done a lot of wonderful works in China for the kids so we have the faith that they again will do this one right. Read their site for information on how to donate. |
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Dazza
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May 14, 2008 - 06:43 PM |
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Good on those donating blood. I spoke to one of the Captains of one of the Shanghai darts league teams today, and discussed how we can help.
He will organize a charity tournament for the 31 teams that participate in the league so there will be around 200 to 300 players involved hopefully, the idea is that we will charge an entrance fee for each player ( cost to be decided) and will donate all the proceeds to the earthquake fund. |
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May 14, 2008 - 10:52 PM |
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| jmg06shanghai wrote: |
| Of course China learned from its delayed responses to SARs and past earthquakes. However, governmental disaster response times and planning are known to have improved on a global scale since Katrina. That's not a Western-centric opinion, but we can agree to disagree. What's important is China's federal government actually appears to be acting to help people and not just talking the talk. |
You guys are really ignorant. This is no new discovery for China. It's not as if the grand and glorious kapitalist world has taught China shit. Years ago when there were huge floods with thousands drowned, the PLA was out in force sandbagging rivers, evacuating villages, saving people and losing hundreds of their own in the process. Publicity was widespread and accurate. Contrary to Western popular opinion, the PLA has always been very popular in China because they are so responsive in times of disaster. What, you all think the world circles around New Orleans ? Don't be so egotistical. |
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oh_the_darkness
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May 14, 2008 - 10:58 PM |
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I love the way Wen Jiao Bao has done things just now.
Hats off to that guy. Top bloke. |
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When I first heard of the recent earthquake in Sichuan I thought back to what I had seen in the Philippines in 1992 when there was a 7.8 scale earthquake 90km north of Manila. In that quake something like 1,000 people died. This quake obviously has killed more and more will die as a result of the type of construction, being concrete and brink rather than the coconut timber of most houses in the countryside of Philippines. These people need help and fast. There is no point offering old clothes, and plastic sheets. What is needed is money being given to the apprporiate NGO, who are are a position to help. Forget about the fact that only 2 weeks ago, foriegners were being told to leave the country, that we are a pack a rats and a disgusting afront to all Chinese. We must help!! I suggest to start a sweepstake on the official number of dead that will be released about a month before the London Olympics. All money (less management costs, travel, entertainment, printing etc) will go to the victims of the quake. Please contact me if you want to help. May God's prays be with you all. |
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skyline5k
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May 15, 2008 - 09:58 AM |
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Why not contact the Red Cross? There's plenty of info on how to donate directly to the Red Cross on the web. |
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thewalrus
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May 15, 2008 - 09:59 AM |
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I'm giving blood next week. |
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May 15, 2008 - 10:04 AM |
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Was going to yesterday, but the Mother in law needed help getting to the bus station. I was more than happy to help her get there! |
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DesertSpider
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May 15, 2008 - 10:30 AM |
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There is already a consolidated thread in News and Opinion that thoroughly covers this topic. |
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Reg_Reagan
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May 15, 2008 - 10:31 AM |
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I'd give blood, but i don't think there is much need for type 5.7% positive. |
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May 15, 2008 - 11:01 AM |
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| These people need help and fast |
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| I suggest to start a sweepstake on the official number of dead that will be released about a month before the London Olympics. |
Library Project is setting up something at Glamour bar in a little over a week. I'll get the details later and will post it in Announcements of events with the other LP thread. If you want to help, go there!!! (as soon as I get the details.  ) |
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BONNIE
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May 15, 2008 - 11:10 AM |
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Anyone feel any tremors last night here in Shanghai? Mrs. Skyline is convinced she felt something, though I was awake playing Civilization 4 at the time & didn't feel anything. Didn't feel anything on monday either. Maybe I'm earthquake proof!
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Still plenty aftershocks
http://www.iris.edu/seismon/zoom/events/?lon=104.02&lat=31.4 |
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SXD
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Last night saw another mass exodus from the core of the city area as rumors flew about another "looming" seismic event. Cars lined any boulevard where the buildings were "out of reach" and people slept the night away in them, with makeshift canopies and tents hanging off the opened doors and trunks.
One especially notable oddity, was that many Chengdu drivers had congregated at the entranceway to the Jinsha Museum, just inside the 3rd Ring Road in the West end of the city. The Jinsha Ruins are a recently discovered archeological "gold-mine" in terms of artifacts from the Shu Kingdom period of some 3,000 years ago. Knowing the way the locals feel about this particular area of the city, I assume they went there to take advantage of the good karma and positive energy, which they believe emanates from the site.
As the Army, armed police forces and other emergency response teams continue their struggle in the hills of Western Sichuan, locals from Chengdu began a new aid campaign of their own as the highways to DuJiangYan and MianYang opened the tolls to free traffic flow. Both of those cities are within easy driving distance of Chengdu, with DuJiangYan a mere 20 minutes down a 6-lane highway and Mianyang an hour and half away down a 4-laner. These two cities also represent the end-pins of the disaster area, as well as the two end points for foreigners or other non-sanctioned relief workers. But that said, these two cities lost many people and aid to them is essential.
Chengdu people have begun a very spontaneous relief effort, as hundreds of cars, trucks, and buses load up and make the journey up the highways to deliver all sorts of goods to whoever they can find that needs them. It is one way in which foreigners have been able to directly contribute to the relief effort. You can drive there and actually put your donations into the hands of the people you see that require it. Maybe not a perfect plan and maybe not always equitable in its distribution, but effective nonetheless. |
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May 15, 2008 - 12:06 PM |
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why does China with its trillions in foreign reserves need cash donations for the victims ??? |
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| Chengdu people have begun a very spontaneous relief effort, as hundreds of cars, trucks, and buses load up and make the journey up the highways to deliver all sorts of goods to whoever they can find that needs them. It is one way in which foreigners have been able to directly contribute to the relief effort. You can drive there and actually put your donations into the hands of the people you see that require it. Maybe not a perfect plan and maybe not always equitable in its distribution, but effective nonetheless. |
Good to hear, SXD.
edit: best not volunteer people before I talk to them myself. Best just say, I know people in Chengdu that may be willing to help out with the relief effort if you want to connect with others out there, though I'm sure you have plenty of connections already. Stay safe. |
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skyline5k
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May 15, 2008 - 12:13 PM |
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Because the extent of the damage is pretty major, and they also have to take care of the rest of the country at the same time. |
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May 15, 2008 - 12:16 PM |
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| romper stomper wrote: |
| why does China with its trillions in foreign reserves need cash donations for the victims ??? |
That is a very interesting question.........
I'd love to know the answer to that as well. |
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May 15, 2008 - 12:18 PM |
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| Because the extent of the damage is pretty major, and they also have to take care of the rest of the country at the same time. |
Uh, I doubt that [not the extent of the damage], but the second part.
Seems like if China could get foreign nations to pick up the tab for the earthquake, it could continue to keep (subsidizing) the exploding economy.
Interesting twist in there, does China spend it's own reserves on it's own people or does it conveniently "delay" those funds, use foreign sympathy dollars, euros, etc. and keep bankrolling it's own reserves.
Hmmmmmm |
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skyline5k
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| Because the extent of the damage is pretty major, and they also have to take care of the rest of the country at the same time. |
Uh, I doubt that [not the extent of the damage], but the second part.
Seems like if China could get foreign nations to pick up the tab for the earthquake, it could continue to keep (subsidizing) the exploding economy.
Interesting twist in there, does China spend it's own reserves on it's own people or does it conveniently "delay" those funds, use foreign sympathy dollars, euros, etc. and keep bankrolling it's own reserves.
Hmmmmmm |
Sounds too easy. There are a lot of factors involved that we simply don't know about. |
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If you're talking about bs "logistics" and bureaucracy and such that only aids in the amassing of ridiculous support monies that never really reach the intended victims, then yes, you are correct.
Case in point: 9/11 Fund
Katrina was a different story b/c people learned that 'charity' didn't go to where they were blatantly told it was going...... fraud in it's most uncut raw form. |
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SXD
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| Chengdu people have begun a very spontaneous relief effort, as hundreds of cars, trucks, and buses load up and make the journey up the highways to deliver all sorts of goods to whoever they can find that needs them. It is one way in which foreigners have been able to directly contribute to the relief effort. You can drive there and actually put your donations into the hands of the people you see that require it. Maybe not a perfect plan and maybe not always equitable in its distribution, but effective nonetheless. |
Good to hear, SXD.
edit: best not volunteer people before I talk to them myself. Best just say, I know people in Chengdu that may be willing to help out with the relief effort if you want to connect with others out there, though I'm sure you have plenty of connections already. Stay safe. |
Perhaps your friends could contribute to the Chengdu Bookworm's efforts being coordinated by Peter Goff. Drop off goods there. Also, each local community committee in Chengdu has organized a drop-off point in their own neighborhoods. Very efficient. |
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skyline5k
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May 15, 2008 - 01:23 PM |
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Haven't heard but I don't doubt you. The charity event I'm working on is legit, but that doesn't mean people have to believe it's legit just because I said so. With cases like Katrina aid, it can be a hard sell. |
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Sounds too easy. There are a lot of factors involved that we simply don't know about.
Yes that is true such as building Olympic facilities and billion dollar space projects
while many of the nation scratches around in poverty , live in dug outs ,caves and tents, with no water, electricity education or heath care.
There allot of factors involved here. |
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DesertSpider
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May 15, 2008 - 01:28 PM |
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Don't get me wrong, I support the Red Cross (one of the few charity org. out there that isn't fcuking donators blind), but just to arbitrarily start throwing money at a problem without realizing who is going to actually benefit from that action is a little careless.
Support the victims, not the government or some other middle man trying to use $0.89 of every dollar for 'admin' costs and another $0.09 in 'fees' and $0.02 of every dollar gets to the end user. |
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