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EnnesX
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Jan 22, 2008 - 11:00 AM |
 
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Any update on the performance of the machine? I am spending chinese new year in the states and upon my return this will be a priority. |
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kuldaen
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Jan 22, 2008 - 01:37 PM |
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Since there is another thread started about this, I thought i'd repost my reply here:
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I have a lot of allergy problems with airborne dust and pollens etc. I recently bought an air filter which was mentioned by Captain Cook in the other thread and after about 2 weeks of operation I can tell you that it definitely has improved my air quality at home. The amount of airborne dust is basically zero now and whatever was setting off my allergies is gone from the air. The one I got also does humidification at the same time as the air filtering. I did have a lot of problems sleeping because of allergies and these have basically disappeared.
Now if only I could filter the rest of the air in Shanghai.
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I have to add that I don't use the Formaldehyde and Ammonia filtering feature (because I don't think there's much in my apartment and also not sure how to operate it properly  ) I think having the HEPA filter is the major thing for me. I've been alternating it between my bedroom (when I sleep) and my living room during the day and had it on continuously the first week.
The machine I got was a Yadu KJF2801S. I got it from a taobao supplier and it was 40% les than the RRP on the yadu website |
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samuelo
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Jan 23, 2008 - 06:45 PM |
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The IQ Air machines sell in the US for less than half the price they retail for in China. Now even with the shipping and import tax I fail to see how I can not save money by ordering in the US and getting them to ship here. All I need to figure out is if I how can get it into China and what I need to do at this end. |
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yu888
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Jan 23, 2008 - 06:51 PM |
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Negotiate for discounts first. if not, try your hand import route but bear in mind: Power conversion will be an issue you will need to deal with, and how that affects the warranty. After sale service as well should be considered. |
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samuelo
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Jan 24, 2008 - 12:26 AM |
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Thanks but I doubt that IQ Air will lower their prices by 40% which is what the saving is looking like from the US. As long as I use a power converter there shouldn't be a problem. I've never used US power voltage goods before so let me know if that's not the case. I am going to check with Villa Lifestyles on the after sales service but I guess as long as I pay them and buy filters they'll be happy to service the machine.
It's strange but Villa Lifestyles price is competitive with prices in UK and HK. But IQ Air's habit of appointing only 1 or a few dealers in every country (apart from US it seems) keeps the prices in those markets high. The US with multiple dealers is literally half the price of everywhere else. |
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Rezitator
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Jan 24, 2008 - 09:49 PM |
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I found once this advertisement here, I do not know whether the number still works. I gave up looking for such a filter. After I studied the Internet, I learned how complex it is to get rid of the real dangerous stuff (formaldehyde etc…).
The dust itself is not a too big problem for normal healthy people. My children grew up (from baby age) without any health problem. My daughter now 6 ½ was not one time longer than 2 days sick.
“…I am the Shanghai dealer for Austin Air (www.austinair.com), America'a best air purifier with a three year warranty. Please feel free to phone my office at 5059 0239 on Monday and I can tell you about our product and our Chinese New Years pricing. I have also posted more information in the Business forum of this website.
Thank you kindly,
W. Michael Goertzen…” |
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Super_Inggo
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Jan 25, 2008 - 01:41 AM |
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Better yet, if you can find a HEPA filter media here, you may just replace the current washable type filter of your split type air-con. However, it may overheat the blower as it needs more power to push through the filter media. The Filtrete by 3M is also good, but only provides about 25-30% efficiency as compared to the HEPA's 99.97%. It would be great if you have a centralized air-conditioning unit as you can install a 3 stage filtration system.  |
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yu888
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June 03, 2008 - 02:16 AM |
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Well I forgot about updating this until somone reminded me so here it is.
After looking atall the different filters, I determined that in our household here, we did not have a fromaldahyde issue as 1) the interior has had plenty of time to out gas, 2) any paint and remodelling was strictly spec'd by me and thus low/no VOC paints and adhesives were purchased by me to make sure, 3) all furniture in the house was custom built to specification in an export factory I used to export with and only one piece of furniture had any excessive amounts of adhesive I needed to be concerned about and that was now several years old and well outgassed.
Given this, I passed on the Yadu KJF2801S listed above and opted for 2 smaller units Yadu units. My primary concern was and is particulate matter in the house so I ended up woth two smaller cylidrical units, both Yadu branded. One KJG1201 and one KJ130-TGS. Both have exactly the same specs except one has a knob control while one has a push membrane pad control. Both are HEPA 90% filtration, run at 40w/hour, <55db noise, and have a flow of 120 cubic meter of air / hour which provides 2.6 airchanges in a 20sm room. ALso has Ionic function to help disinfect and attract dust.
The KJG1201 sells for 488rmb at Staples . Sells for 968 at Gome. We bought ours second hand from another Expat who got an IQ Air, for 300 total  , and then ordered new filter replacements. End result has been quite good. Our home has been a safe haven for me as my allergies started up this year (guess the "greening of Shanghai" IS making a difference as there are more pollens in the air (as I am not allergic to dust) |
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yu888
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June 04, 2008 - 04:53 PM |
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I also clean my AC unit filters regularly to maintain effectiveness there too. I do not have central AC inthis apt so its individual ones... a pain to clean but worth the effort. |
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januza
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June 10, 2008 - 11:05 AM |
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do you have central A/C yu888? We have at our complex and I have no idea how to clean the fliters and no clue where they are.
arg, never mind.. Im blind!! I just saw u dont have central A/C.. |
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januza
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June 10, 2008 - 11:11 AM |
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Oh and do you know there Staples has their biggest shop? They have lots of small ones but they never have what I need in stock! |
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yu888
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June 10, 2008 - 11:47 AM |
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RE: Staples- I just order and they deliver. i am kinda lazy like that. |
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januza
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June 10, 2008 - 12:09 PM |
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Ok. I will have my assistant do that for me then |
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Celso
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Nov 21, 2008 - 02:22 PM |
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yu888 so those machines you have - they work their anti-allergic magic in the bedroom? Think i have the same troubles as you with the pollen - lots of sneezing and a constant runny nose again
And so according to your experiences it would be better to buy several small units and place them in several room rather than the one big unit -
My appartment is a chinese 180sqm - probably 160 in real sqm - rooms that matter are my bedroom, the living room - although the living room is quite large (long and rectangular shaped) would a small unit be able to cover that from a corner position - no sockets or space in the middle of the room?
appreciate the help |
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yu888
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Nov 21, 2008 - 04:24 PM |
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I leave my unit in teh bedroom on at all times and my room is never a pollen or dust haven. Even teh ayi mentioned our apartment has less dust than many she has had to work at. Two units does do the trick, even during autumn when i had the windows open a lot.
So yeah, base don my experience, having a filter in each room has been quite effective but I cannot compare it to getting a IQ Air or an Auin Air or the newest one i have seen in teh market is a Blue Air i think. As i have not used them, I cannot say if you get that much more noticeable effectiveness out of the better more costly machines. But I have friends that swear by the IQ air so, it is a personal choice as to which route to go. It was a no-brainer for me, ¥13,000 + ¥1800 per filter change for the IQ Air, versus the ¥300 I paid for 2 2nd hand machines + the ¥200 for new filters. hmmm, 13k vs 500???  New would still be 13,000 vs 1,400...
Anyhow, good luck. |
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yu888
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Oh a nice commentary on Clean air indoors is in this month's City Weekend on page 54, written by Kathy Lawn, one of the CW Parents and Kids editors. |
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emilylopez
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Nov 21, 2008 - 06:14 PM |
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My husband and I recently renovated our apartment (small, approx 100sqm) and decided to buy 2 air filters. One, a Honeywell we bought here in Shanghai at the Best Buy for our bedroom. The 2nd is the IQ Air GC series which is one of the best and even filters out formaldehyde (we were worried about it coming from the cabinets, paint, etc.) We went out the Villa Lifestyles to see their selection and then went online to see prices in the US. Villa Lifesyles basically doubles the US prices. So the GC series we bought was approx. $2000US in China and only $1000US in the states. We decided to order our IQ Air online in the US, have it shipped to the US and my husband brought it back with him on his last business trip. It's a HUGE savings, and worth the trouble. We were going to ask a friend who was going on a trip to US to bring it back for us, but in the end my husband had to go back for business so he was able to bring it back himself. It's quite easy - we checked it like baggage, it meets the weight restrictions and size restrictions. We had no problems at all. Coming into China was also easy - no customs issues. We just walked out with it. I would highly suggest going this route to avoid the high high cost of the IQ air in China. If you aren't going back to the US anytime soon, find a good friend who is and ask them to do you this favor. It's well worth it!! |
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california2shanghai
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Dec 07, 2008 - 02:31 PM |
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This is an old thread, but I wanted to add some information. Consumer Reports, an independent testing agency, rated different air filters in Dec 2007. Not all are available in Shanghai, but you could bring them back with you the next time you're overseas.
Prices are in US$ as per Consumer Reports, though they don't correspond at all to prices I found on Amazon.com. The list is in rank order from best to worst. The number in bold next to the price is the score CR gave the filter, a higher score is better.
I've seen IQAir doing a lot of advertising in Shanghai, I don't know specifically what they offer, but this list does not rank their Healthpro plus model as highly as many other models.
Whirlpool Whispure AP45030S $230 63.
Kenmore Progressive 83202 Whirlpool AP510303 $270 57.
Hunter Permalife 30547 $270 56.
Blueair 601 $600 46.
3M Ultra Slim Air Purifier FAP03-RS $200 45.
Honeywell Enviracaire 50250 $170 45.
Blueair 501 $500 44.
Hunter Quietflo 30401 $260 44.
Vornado 35 AQS35 $200 44.
Bionaire Galileo BAP1250-U $200 42.
Holmes HAP756 $140 41.
Holmes HAP726 $125 39.
Sharp Plasmacluster FP-P60CX $400 35.
Panasonic F-P20HU1 $100 35.
Holmes Harmony HAP422-U $85 34.
Atmosphere (Quixtar.com) Air Purifier $970 33.
Honeywell QuietClean HFD-120-Q $150 33.
TrueAir 04492 $130 32.
Winix PlasmaWave 5000 $300 32.
IQAir HealthPro Plus $800 32.
Austin Air HealthMate HM-400 $450 30.
Amcor AM130 $120 28.
Bionaire Permatech BAP1500 $150 27.
3M Ultra Slim FAP04-RC $300 26.
SoleusAir SA-150R $200 26.
Zojirushi PA-MTC14 $170 24.
Blueair Airpod $100 16. |
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bejo
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| Oh a nice commentary on Clean air indoors is in this month's City Weekend on page 54, written by Kathy Lawn, one of the CW Parents and Kids editors. |
Yu888: the writer wrote "you get what you pay for". Can you pls re-confirm that your yadu? I think I will be happy if the air can improve to 'reasonable' level. Should I buy yadu or bit more expensive brand (eg. blueair or panasonic). thanks for your info |
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bejo
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Jan 02, 2009 - 02:09 PM |
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| bejo wrote: |
| yu888 wrote: |
| Oh a nice commentary on Clean air indoors is in this month's City Weekend on page 54, written by Kathy Lawn, one of the CW Parents and Kids editors. |
Yu888: the writer wrote "you get what you pay for". Can you pls re-confirm that your yadu? I think I will be happy if the air can improve to 'reasonable' level. Should I buy yadu or bit more expensive brand (eg. blueair or panasonic). thanks for your info |
correction: Can you pls re-confirm that your yadu is working as per your expectation? |
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yu888
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still working. And was really inexpensive... I suppose if I had spent for an IQ air, I'd believe it was doing x times better than the cheaper units too... but alas, I giot a basic Yadu and it does fine getting rid of dust and particulates and reducing alergic reactions and such at home. |
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bejo
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Jan 02, 2009 - 09:09 PM |
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thanks for your info.
I have few 'bitterness' with Chinese brands and I can't trust them anymore.
Just came back from Jing-An shopping center (not sure what is the exact name - above metro station) and I think I will buy Panasonic airfilter. At least I am sure that Japanese brand will not dissapoint me too much and reasonable price.
Anyway, find a good website:
http://www.allergyescape.com/air-purifiers.html |
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Gotham
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Feb 04, 2009 - 12:47 AM |
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Hi Emily Lopez,
I came across your post here and would like to seek your needed advice if not too much trouble..
My wife and I have been shopping around for an air purifier in Shanghai for the past few weeks. Due to we were in a rush to move into to our newly renovated home, we didn't do much homework and ended up purchasing a Panasonic purifier at Best Buy. It was not cheap. More importantly, we are not satisfy with it's performance. Since this purchase, I have been doing more researching and realized that IQAIR is the best purifier period.
Given we too have formaldehyde issues in our home, we are quite set on investing in the GC series for the same exact reason as you mentioned in your post.. but as you mentioned, the Villa Lifestyles prices are MUCH HIGHER than how much they go for in the US.
I spoke to their sales manager and asked them what is we bought one in the U.S. They said due to the voltage difference (US - 110V vs. CHINA - 220V), you would need to use a power converter.. But she said the converter will effect the performance and will damage the IQAIR.
Therefore, could you please share with me your experience with us whether this is true? And also if possible, can you please also let us know what kind of power converter we need to purchase, where, and how much..
I truly appreciate you taking the time. We definitely want to buy the IQAIR from the US instead of paying such a premium as long as the voltage difference and it's quality will not be compromised when using the converter.
THANKS! |
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RussianBear
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Yu888, that about self made one ? One aquarium pump, one back left out and another one put in bottle with water. I guess it will work for clearing of air from dust, as minimum. |
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qingyinger
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Feb 04, 2009 - 01:06 PM |
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we can spply many kinds of air purifiers ,as we can a professional exportor .
We can offer many kinds of small home appliance with English Users guide. |
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