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emselst
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Sep 01, 2006 - 04:50 PM |
 
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For those of you trying to decide which school is right, let me just say a few things from experience (Much more experience than I would have preferred!):
* Try to find a school as close to the working parent's office. Be very open and consider all options (International Schools, Bilingual Schools, Local Schools, and homeschooling). The simpler your life here the better. (I wish ours could have been!)
* After you find your school, THEN choose where to live. In our case, we are all commuting for 9 months before we can move because we did this the other way around.
* Do NOT choose a school based soley on their website. In some cases the websites are very far from true, and in others, the websites don't even show you how good a place really is. You need to GO SEE any school you are considering, and make sure it is during school hours. And talk talk talk to the teachers, students, staff. At Chinese local schools in particular, make sure you are dropping in unannounced to get a real feel for what it is like.
* Question the high prices at the International Schools, and don't be afraid to ask for tuition reductions/ financial aid/ (discounts!) These schools are making a lot of money, and they are not Harvard (no one is leaving with a degree, that's for sure!!)
* As per bilingual schools, be very aware that there are 3 main approaches to a Chinese/English bilingual education:
1. Chinese with ESL (English as a second language) - We didn't want full immersion in the Chinese program because our daughter (a native English speaker) would have 1-2 hours of ESL classes everyday. Of course, one school told us they would move her to a higher class, but then she would have been in English class with children 3+ years older than her - not appropriate for a 1st grader. However, if your child does not speak English OR Chinese, this is probably a good option. ($2000 per year, and less)
2. English with Chinese classes - For us this didn't put enough emphasis on Chinese. We plan to live here for 5+ years, and having Chinese language skills is very important to us. This may be a good option for those students only living here for 1-3 years. But again, only if your on a nice expat package, because these are extremely expensive. ($21,000 and up)
3. 50-50 English and Chinese - for us, this was the best option. In our daughter's school, they have 1 Chinese teacher and 1 English teacher for every class all day. This is really special, and it's at a much lower price than any other schools.. They put a lot of emphasis on creativity, and individual progress... And it's an IB school. Unfortunately, for now, SUIS is the only school quite like it, but I can see that this is definitly the future for schools here in Shanghai. As expat packages thin out, there will be more and more demand for places that offer quality without the ludicrous prices. ($8,000 per year, approx)
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Just wanted to say thank you, to all of you on this website that have added opinions, and I hope this info I'm providing is helpful to others too! Please ask questions on this post, rather than sending a message, I'm watching this forum, so I'll see your questions/comments. |
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sioux
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Sep 02, 2006 - 12:21 PM |
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Hi,
Thanks for the info.
I was also planning to just go around and visit the different schools (unannounced), to get a real feeling about the teachers, the students and the school, because I can kind of figure that there are big differences from school to school.
I am actually thinking of a local Chinese school, because it is also very important for me that my child learns Chinese, but so far it is only thoughts..
So which school do you have now? Are you happy with it? |
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elainelge
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June 18, 2008 - 04:48 PM |
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Hi - I just found this forum, is it too late to ask if there is any further advise on which schools to go to? I don't have an expat budget for education and really weighing my option between home-schooling and billigual schools as they are the cheapest already.
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canuckian
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June 18, 2008 - 10:42 PM |
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| emselst wrote: |
* After you find your school, THEN choose where to live. In our case, we are all commuting for 9 months before we can move because we did this the other way around. |
Thanks for the advice. We're deciding between renovating our place vs. buying a new one. Now I realize that the school will have to come first, then we can choose whatever we want to do with the housing.
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* Question the high prices at the International Schools, and don't be afraid to ask for tuition reductions/ financial aid/ (discounts!) These schools are making a lot of money, and they are not Harvard (no one is leaving with a degree, that's for sure!!) |
You can do that?!  |
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StMichael
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June 19, 2008 - 10:21 AM |
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You can do that?! |
Well, the worst you'd get is a reply from the school management, "After consideration, we regret to say..." And who knows if you may just hit the jackpot if you try? No harm doing so, right? Some of my clients do try, and we do consider (though we have yet to find a reason to give a positive answer). |
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hautumncloud
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June 19, 2008 - 10:47 AM |
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| canuckian wrote: |
| emselst wrote: |
* After you find your school, THEN choose where to live. In our case, we are all commuting for 9 months before we can move because we did this the other way around. |
Thanks for the advice. We're deciding between renovating our place vs. buying a new one. Now I realize that the school will have to come first, then we can choose whatever we want to do with the housing.
| emselst wrote: |
* Question the high prices at the International Schools, and don't be afraid to ask for tuition reductions/ financial aid/ (discounts!) These schools are making a lot of money, and they are not Harvard (no one is leaving with a degree, that's for sure!!) |
You can do that?! |
Although PO's original post is almost 2 years old, the tips are still very applicable today. And I would STRONGLY agree to find school first if you don't want your children spending 15 hours travelling to/from school each week.
As for high prices, YES definitely ask. I have heard that some int schools do consider a discount over & above the sibling discounts. No harm trying. |
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caramello
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June 19, 2008 - 02:42 PM |
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Some have advertised discounts already, we're thinking of moving mostly to avoid traffic but also to lower some costs in that regard. |
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FTM
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June 20, 2008 - 11:10 AM |
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where can I find a list of 50/50 preschools in Puxi? |
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