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Scojay
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Classic Louisiana bureaucracy red-tape and corruption. It has been 3 years and Billions of dollars spent and they are still not prepared for anything over a cat 3 hurricane.
Hurricane warning posted for New Orleans area, rest of Louisiana
by Mark Schleifstein, The Times-Picayune
Sunday August 31, 2008, 7:06 AM
The projected path for Hurricane Gustav edged a tiny bit closer to New Orleans, according to the National Hurricane Center's 4 a.m. forecast, with the storm still expected to cross the coastline at Category 4 strength by 1 p.m. Monday.
That increases the chance that New Orleans will experience hurricane-force winds and that West Bank communities could be hit with devastating storm surge high enough to overtop the area's incomplete system of 8-foot to 10-foot levees and gates.
A hurricane warning has been issued for the coast from the Texas border to the Alabama-Florida border, and includes New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain. A hurricane warning means hurricane conditions are expected within the warning area in the next 24 hours.
A tropical storm warning and hurricane watch extends west to High Island, Texas and a tropical storm warning east to the Ochlockonee River in Florida.
A flash flood watch also is in effect for all of southeastern Louisiana from Monday morning through Tuesday evening with rainfall of 6 to 12 inches expected. Up to 20 inches could fall in some locations, especially in areas southwest of Lake Pontchartrain and the River Parishes.
Gustav lost more intensity than expected as it crossed Cuba, its maximum winds dropping to 125 mph overnight.
"However, this weakening is forecast to be short-lived as the hurricane traverses the relatively high heat content of the Gulf loop current," said National Hurricane Center forecasters Eric Blake, a Metairie native, and Richard Pasch, in a discussion message issued with their 4 a.m. forecast.
And with the slight move east, the storm remains a major threat to the New Orleans area and central Louisiana communities along U.S. 90 like Morgan City and Houma.
"It is important not to focus on the exact track of Gustav as this is a large hurricane and significant impacts are likely to occur well away from the center," Blake and Pasch said .
At 1 p.m Monday, the eye of Gustav will be in Timbalier Bay, just east of Port Fourchon, as a Category 4 hurricane with winds of 133 mph.
That would place the offshore oil service center in the path of the most dangerous winds and up to 25 feet of surge topped by battering waves. The resort town of Grand Isle also is expected to be hammered by similar winds, surge and waves.
At 7 a.m., the center of Hurricane Gustav was 375 miles southeast of the mouth of the Mississippi River as it moves northwest at close to 16 mph. The storm will continue moving that quickly as it travels northwest across the Gulf until reducing speed on Monday as it crosses the coast.
Tropical storm force winds are expected to reach the southeast Louisiana coast before dawn on Monday, with hurricane force winds possible across the coast by mid-morning and spreading inland Monday afternoon and night.
There's a chance of isolated tornadoes as the first bands of the hurricane come ashore on the coast late Sunday night and farther inland on Monday and Tuesday.
The forecast now calls for Gustav to take a full day to reach a point just west of Opelousas, still as a Category 1 hurricane with 85 mph winds.
On that path, the bulk of Gustav will be moving across Houma, Morgan City, New Iberia, Lafayette and Breaux Bridge.
It will take another 24 hours for Gustav to reach a point just west of Natchitoches, by which time it will have weakened to a tropical depression.
At daybreak, Gustav's outer bands already were prompting a tornado watch for Collier County, Fla., just north of Key West. A tropical storm warning is in effect for the lower Keys. |
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freedelia
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And is there another place in the world that would be prepared??? Is that place also under sea level?? WTF!!! I have talked to people evacuating from New Orleans and they seem to think that everything is a lot more organized than 3 years ago. No one will be left behind this time unless they decide to stay. Granted, it might take 20 hours to drive to Texas, but no one will be stuck.
Will the levees hold? Maybe not. But the work was not supposed to be finished for another 2 or 3 years and even then there is no telling for sure how much power water will actually have and whether anything built by man will stand or not.
I think instead of laughing at how bad things are in New Orleans, it would be nicer to show some sympathy for the people who have to leave AGAIN. My aunt just finished rebuilding her house. We had our first post Katrina Mardi Gras this year at her house (on a parade road) and it was great, like it never happened. Now they are evacuating AGAIN and might never see their house standing again.
This is SAD and i doubt much could be done to prevent it.
I am still hoping and praying that NO will not take a direct hit this time. |
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hc
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Aug 31, 2008 - 10:58 PM |
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Buzzd
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Sep 01, 2008 - 05:36 AM |
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Oh wait, the majority of them are black and poor.
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Bet ya freedelia's aunt ain't one of them.
"Heck of a job Browny. Heck of a job."
freedelia:
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We had our first post Katrina Mardi Gras this year at her house (on a parade road) and it was great, like it never happened.
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This is SAD and i doubt much could be done to prevent it.
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You are correct, and it is sad. Especially considering that GW and Dick hacked away at the Army Corps'. funding for work in N.O. early in his debacle of a Presidency. Can't build up N.O. when you've got to rebuild Iraq I guess. Yeah right. |
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CoffeeHawk_0
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| considering that GW and Dick hacked away at the Army Corps'. funding for work in N.O. |
ummm, not so much. 225,000 department of agriculture and army corps jobs were cut under Clinton, the entire DoA was eliminated. The sad news is a hurricane bill was passed in 1965 and still has not been acted upon properly. Remember, it was Clinton who suggested eliminating the deficit was a good thing (this meant massive cuts in government spending).
WASHINGTON (1995)– While the Bush administration is sure to get most of the heat for cuts in proposed expenditures to maintain and upgrade New Orleans flood control system, the Clinton administration repeatedly cut congressional allocations for the projects and the recommendations on spending by the Army Corps of Engineers.
Most of the attention to date has focused on the fact that last year the Army Corps of Engineers sought $105 million for hurricane and flood programs in New Orleans, while the White House slashed the request to about $40 million. Congress finally approved $42.2 million, less than half of the agency's request.
......the Clinton administration cut 98 flood control projects, including one in New Orleans, saying such efforts should be local projects, not national.
Army Corps of Engineers officials freely conceded in 1995 the cuts might be penny-wise and pound-foolish. But they said they were forced to eliminate some services the corps has historically provided to taxpayers to meet the administration's budget-cutting goals.
A $120 million hurricane project, approved and financed annually from 1965 was killed by the Clinton administration after being approved by the Army Corps of Engineers. It was designed to protect more than 140,000 West Bank residents east of the Harvey Canal.
The following year, Congress approved more for flood-control projects than was recommended by the Clinton administration. Likewise, in 1999, Congress and the Clinton administration agreed to spend only $47 million on New Orleans area hurricane flood control projects – half of what local officials had requested. |
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Buzzd
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"Heck of a job Browny. Heck of a job."
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Source please. Thx |
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leidelaohu
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Sep 05, 2008 - 12:44 AM |
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| Source please. Thx |
Research project for the sophomore class at Bob Jones University ...
More to the point, why do people insist on living on a flood plain ? |
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wonderer
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Sep 05, 2008 - 05:16 AM |
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People live on flood plains because they provide a good living if handled well. Irrigation, baby. Ever heard of the Yangtze?
On the other hand, New Orleans is a saucer sitting next the Atlantic, with natural and manmade defences blown down regularly by those hurricanes. It cannot survive, given continued buffetting.
I really do not care about US politics. Just watch your land mass disappear into the sea, idiots.
Global warming? You really think so? Duh |
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Buzzd
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Research project for the sophomore class at Bob Jones University ...
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Ahah! Thanks. |
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Buzzd
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Missed that the first time around Mr. Coffee. What's the update? |
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Buzzd
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And how exactly did Gergie boy amend this situation. I still believe that the answer is by further downgrading.
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The following year, Congress approved more for flood-control projects than was recommended by the Clinton administration. Likewise, in 1999, Congress and the Clinton administration agreed to spend only $47 million on New Orleans area hurricane flood control projects – half of what local officials had requested.
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hc
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"Half of what local officials had requested"
Again, our naive friend Coffeehawk fails to understand the underlying motives of humans actions. Coffeeffee, when a local official request X he is EXPECTING X/2. Getting X would just help him to "help his friends a bit".
The good news for you is that you are only 17.
Imagine if you were in the mid 40s with this naive stupid mentality. A lot of people would take advantage of you! So, stay in your bunker in Pudong and by no means go to Tong Ren Lu.
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freedelia
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Why do people insist on living in New Orleans?? Because it is probably the BEST place in the world. It has culture, it has soul, people are friendly, traditions are old, interesting and a lot of fun, food is amazing, life is different, more relaxed, more laid back than any other place in the US, there is a wonderful sense of humor and a wonderful sense of "Oh well, we know it can flood and we will just enjoy it while it lasts, then work hard and rebuild it, but never give it up"
I guess the answer is people don't want to give New Orleans up because it's their home -- the most wonderful one they could ever have. |
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leidelaohu
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| I guess the answer is people don't want to give New Orleans up because it's their home -- the most wonderful one they could ever have. |
Sure. But if you insist on living in a place that is not meant for human habitation, then you should pay to fix it yourself. The federal government should not be subsidizing stupidity. (Same thing is true of earthquakes in California, I agree.) |
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Scojay
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Why do people insist on living in New Orleans?? Because it is probably the BEST place in the world. It has culture, it has soul, people are friendly, traditions are old, interesting and a lot of fun, food is amazing, life is different, more relaxed, more laid back than any other place in the US, there is a wonderful sense of humor and a wonderful sense of "Oh well, we know it can flood and we will just enjoy it while it lasts, then work hard and rebuild it, but never give it up"
I guess the answer is people don't want to give New Orleans up because it's their home -- the most wonderful one they could ever have. |
You must have been exposed to toxic mold after Katrina.
It is 3 degrees cooler than hell and one of the dirtiest cities in the USA.
Pre- Katrina= Elitist city of rich and poor. 75% government assisted Black living in the city with the exception of Lakeview, Mid-city and St. Charles area. Drive down St. Charles to Commanders Palace and take a right instead of a left on Washington, you will become a crime victim. If you were born there and had second or third generation blood and your father and grandfather were in a super krew then you were accepted. The typical New Orleanian travels as far West as Houston, East to Pensacola and north to Memphis- that is the sphere of their world. The kids go to Tulane or LSU and then leave and never come back. LA has the 49th worst public education and has Zero fortune-500 corporations, why dirty, tainted politicians along with one of the highest murder rates in the country.
Post Katrina= the city turned into a shooting gallery with a typical weekend having an average of 5 people gunned down. Taxpayers financed the rebuilding with incentives and the failed Road-home program to fund people who had homes that carried no flood insurance. The shot-gun houses were handed down from generation to generation and were not required to carry insurance. And when the levees broke and their homes were washed away, tax payers had to foot the bill with another bail out. All the doctors left the city, crime is out of control, the Hispanic population tripled in size as they came in and cleaned up the city and dominated the population alienating the blacks who wanted their “chocolate city” back because God told Nagin that’s the way it should be.
They should nationalize the city and keep it open for Mississippi river port traffic and then open it again for Mardi Gras. Ohh and by the way, yes I do live there, eat burgers and drink Monsoons at the Port O’ Call, ride in Endimiyon and have not missed a Jazz Fest in 15 years.
NEW ORLEANS- THIRD WORLD AND PROUD OF IT |
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^^ "eat burgers and drink Monsoons at the Port O’ Call" ^^
'That is one tastey burger'... Pulp Fiction. Samuel Jackson |
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