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potentiated

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Posted: Oct 13, 2008 - 06:10 PM

What he means is that China is racially homogeneous and homogeneous regions of the world tend to be extremely racist.

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Posted: Oct 14, 2008 - 11:02 AM

The way I see, anyone can be, or has been a "racist," at some point of their lives. It just depends on your definition of racism. There is the white-supremacy kind, then there is just the cultural misunderstanding kind. Like for example, some black people in America will hate on Asian people, but that's mostly due to "regular conflicts" in a multi-cultural society.

But the more I look at it, these conflicts are demagogues by design, perpetuated by the mass media, hence evincing the concerted efforts by the ruling elites for expansion and repression of control.

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Posted: Oct 14, 2008 - 11:03 AM

racism goes both ways.

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Posted: Oct 15, 2008 - 06:46 PM

Well you can break down "complex" constructs like racism (or consciousness or intelligence or attention, etc) into underlying component constructs such as racial bias. Racial bias can be tested, for example, by showing pictures on a computer monitor and then answering questions at the conscious level (self-report) or using physiological measures at the unconscious level (e.g., skin conductance response, heart rate, brain activity scan).

Sometimes there's a pre-test in which you simply ask the participant how they feel about races listed on a piece of paper. Many times, you can show that what they report consciously (when they report they are not biased against a particular race) is very different from their behavior at the unconscious level.

These results then match well with and can begin to help explain our own anecdotal experiences, such as getting off the freeway on accident in south central LA and immediately panicking when you see about 100% poor black people.

We can then see how racial bias might serve as an underlying component to full-blown racism.

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Posted: Oct 23, 2008 - 12:44 PM
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SilentAllTheseYears wrote:

By the way, if anyone has been called "negro" here by Chinese, please don't misunderstand. Chinese people don't mean anything bad. When I was in high school, the English textbooks told us that the English equivalent of "hei ren" is "negro". It was until my American teacher warned us about the use of the word did I realize what a big mistake our textbook made. I don't know if the new version textbook has made any change or not. Most people who use this word don't know the discriminating meaning of it, so please don't feel offended.

There has never been an equivilent in Chinese meaning "negro". "Hei Ren" simply means "black person" or "black people".

I would say the word "Hei Ren" has certain sense of discrimination as it differentiate people by color, however, it absolutely does not imply any sense of racism.

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Posted: Mar 18, 2009 - 07:27 PM

This is an interesting thread. I'm not sure what the prevailing view of black people is here in Shanghai, but I do know that being black confers an amazing amount of visibility. It is not uncommon to look up on the metro and find half the people in the car inspecting me. I always wonder what they're thinking. If the only information they have about black people is media portrayal and bad news from Africa, I can only imagine...

The other day a girl bumped into me on the subway as the train started to move -- no big deal, obviously, but she looked absolutely terrified as I tried to say it was no problem. Maybe she was expecting me to start telling her off or something! Who knows... as is the case even at home, the feeling I get is not always positive. But, being here is an amazing opportunity and I intend to make the most of it. Making personal connections tends to ease distrust and misunderstanding on both sides.

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Posted: Mar 23, 2009 - 01:26 PM

Maybe like this...?

Its in the PIT though so be warned.

http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/MDForum-viewtopic-t-90294.phtml

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Posted: Mar 25, 2009 - 10:38 AM
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Havard wrote:

"Hei Ren" simply means "black person" or "black people".

As does 'negro' moron. . .

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Posted: Mar 25, 2009 - 12:52 PM

Not all the black are that 'strange' to me as before.when the first time i met a lot of blacks in USA.I was so scared.(Now i know that is not necessary at all.)They say hello to me everywhere when i met them: Jogging near the lake, working out in the gym, sitting in the park....I felt that they may hurt me or something dangerous will happened because they close to me.But all my friends there told me that they just very friendly to me.

Now i even work with the black,white,of course yellow.all kinds of people from the whole world.I think they are the same. The black are nice and work hard too. One of the blacks even sits in front of me and works in the same project as me.He has a chinese wife,a kid.he can speak chinese and other many kinds of languages.Nearlly nothing special beside the color.and the blacks are good at languages! That amaze me.

But he told me some of the black do not like people call them 'black' or 'negro'.Even they call themselves a lot,but they do not want other people who have different color call them that. I do not know if it is true.

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Posted: Mar 27, 2009 - 12:47 AM
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Kiwi wrote:

Havard wrote:

"Hei Ren" simply means "black person" or "black people".

As does 'negro' moron. . .

Ah, Kiwi's lectures on cultural misunderstaqndingsings Part VII

Could you elaborate there, ole wise one?

There must be some grains of gold buried beneath the hubris...

or are there...?

Wait! I get it! When Chinese say 'heiren 'they mean negro, but when 'educated' sophisticated Westerners pontificate on the question they mean 'black,' or do they? Actually, I'm lost, Kiwi, could you help? What do you mean? What does he mean? What does 'it' mean, speaking philopopsickly?

We need a board PC expert to clarify. Goosie?

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Posted: Apr 03, 2009 - 02:28 PM

I was in a taxi on the highway the other day. Another taxi pulled up alongside and the passenger was black. Both the driver and myself locked the doors in the cab even though we were doing about 50 mph...

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Posted: Apr 03, 2009 - 02:38 PM

Maybe the movie has some stereotype issues here. Like this Spiderman comic.

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Posted: Apr 03, 2009 - 10:34 PM

Since we're talking about skin color on here, I'd just like to point something out.

I have met people from all over the world, of various skin tones and colors.

I have met black people (and I mean people who's skin is BLACK, like the crayon color) as well as every shade from that to light tan who are black people.

I have met Asian people who's skin tone has ranged from a deep yellow tanish alomst brown color to a very light almost cream color.

I have met native Americans that have deep red tones to their skin.

You know what I have never ever seen?

A WHITE person. I've even known a few albinos. They're more pinkish with hints of blue.

Just sayin'.

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Posted: Apr 17, 2009 - 11:14 AM

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I've even known a few albinos. They're more pinkish with hints of blue.

Really? Albinos are pinkish with a hint of blue in their skin? That's cool!

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Posted: Apr 19, 2009 - 04:09 AM

I go to university with a black person who's albino and I've never noticed blue-ness in her skin...=___=

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Posted: June 19, 2009 - 11:56 AM
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Kiwi wrote:

Havard wrote:

"Hei Ren" simply means "black person" or "black people".

As does 'negro' moron. . .

actually, "negro" does carry with it some bad connotations. even though it can be used in a historical context, it cannot be used in normal conversation without offense.

"hei ren" does simply mean "black person." no connotations.

there is a big difference.

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Posted: June 19, 2009 - 02:41 PM
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bleepingbleeper wrote:

Kiwi wrote:

Havard wrote:

"Hei Ren" simply means "black person" or "black people".

As does 'negro' moron. . .

I was talking about the meaning of the word, not its connotations.

Now **** off.

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Posted: June 20, 2009 - 10:56 AM
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Kiwi wrote:

bleepingbleeper wrote:

Kiwi wrote:

Havard wrote:

"Hei Ren" simply means "black person" or "black people".

As does 'negro' moron. . .

I was talking about the meaning of the word, not its connotations.

Now **** off.

yeah, nice try at "saving face," but using your logic, the "N" word literally means the same thing too. so hei ren = negro = "N" word? sorry, not quite.

you failed to take into account the context of havard's post, which was all about connotation. and you still don't seem to get it... connotation is essential and inseparable when it comes to racial epithets.

you do know what connotation is, right? please look it up.

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Posted: June 20, 2009 - 06:17 PM

Edgewood wrote:

Chinese are colour blind. They see the world in shades of profit and racial purity. Black or white is irrelevant.

Not quite. They see the world as Them and Us. When a taxi driver tried to scam a friend of mine, she called her local friend. The taxi driver had the audacity to try to get the local friend to PLAY ALONG WITH THE SCAM!

Incredible...

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Posted: June 20, 2009 - 06:19 PM

Err, anyways. A black pal o' mine seems to be doing okay here. He gets stared at a LOT though. Way more than me.

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Posted: Oct 24, 2009 - 02:55 PM

Since the moderators have seen fit to remove the highly entertaining 'Being black in China' thread, I thought I'd put this one back so the entertainment could continue....

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Posted: Oct 24, 2009 - 08:35 PM

trousers wrote:

Since the moderators have seen fit to remove the highly entertaining 'Being black in China' thread, I thought I'd put this one back so the entertainment could continue....

http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/MDForum-viewtopic-t-100143-start-225.phtm l

You mean this one?
All 10 pages of drivel....

Still up...

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