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Post  Posted: Nov 18, 2008 - 04:25 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top
Post subject: expats leaving shanghai

hi,

does anyone know of any expat families leaving shanghai because of company cutbacks or even layoffs due to the economy?

seems a lot of expats are suddenly leaving shanghai.
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been happening for all 2008. Accelerating now, though, due to economy. My company has probably reduced expats by 50 % this year.
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Post  Posted: Nov 18, 2008 - 05:15 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Yes many of our friends have been pulled back. More US companies than Europeans but I think it is just the begining.
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Post  Posted: Nov 18, 2008 - 05:36 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Sign of the times: Noticed apartment rent seems to be going downda bit.
Related?

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I had a friend tell me that a lot of Korean expats have already moved back.

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Post  Posted: Nov 18, 2008 - 06:48 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

note book orders from US and Europe are shrinking, the taiwanese company i work for lay off only local operators so far, not sure about expats in the future...
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Post  Posted: Nov 18, 2008 - 08:47 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Nod- have noticed.

Sucks a lot- a few friends have been hit.

Markets down again today and there is certainly more to come.
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Yankee go home!
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CoffeeHawk_0 wrote:
Yankee go home!


Go home? They didn't even make the post-season playoffs!

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Ban spamming Joy1234567!
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Post  Posted: Nov 18, 2008 - 09:47 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Yes, i heard about Korean moved back from Beijing.. because living cost is rised.
I'm satisfacted with living cost in Qingdao, we rented appartments for 1000 RMB/m and looking for buy one new (for 9000/m2) in center of city.
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a rmb5million home in september is now rmb4million. Real estate market's affected.
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I work for a recruitment company and this trend has being going on for quiet sometime now but it is going to get worst. But the sad things is that when they do go back, they might not be a job back home. Very sad.
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I heard Yahoo China will cut 30% of IT
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Later will see lao wais with sign:

"Will work for mantou"

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Expat numbers have not picked up after the Olympic Games. The restrictions on Visa's is also reducing the expat numbers standing at the pub bar.
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Strangely I am receiving even more calls from financial advisors these days! Maybe laid off expats are becoming financial telemarketers on commission-basis while the pool of potential clients is reducing?

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Post  Posted: Nov 19, 2008 - 12:55 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

it's not well publicized, but many 10,000's of local people are bing laid off in Shenzhen and the automotive sector. Eventually this translates to companies needing less expats.
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There seems to be more xpats playing poker at the spot though...

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I know a few very high paying expats were terminated from their current jobs recently. No re-exptriated package. They do not have a job to return home to.

I personally think these fews are useless and give other expats a bad name anyway. So its a good thing that they and similar people go back to their countries.

No more bossing Chinese people around, no more cheap Chinese lived- in whores...No more free housing, no more driver, no job.

I hope they saved some money while they were here instead of spending it on cheap girls, and expensive booze!
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Post  Posted: Nov 19, 2008 - 04:07 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

it's just the beginning...

i'm looking to move to beijing 1st quarter 09 and was told by the agent NOT to sign any leases now because lots of expats are leaving and better deals will be available by beg next year.

seems really just the beginning of the exodus.
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rxg wrote:
I know a few very high paying expats were terminated from their current jobs recently. No re-exptriated package. They do not have a job to return home to.

I personally think these fews are useless and give other expats a bad name anyway. So its a good thing that they and similar people go back to their countries.

No more bossing Chinese people around, no more cheap Chinese lived- in whores...No more free housing, no more driver, no job.

I hope they saved some money while they were here instead of spending it on cheap girls, and expensive booze!


... You mean the 'party's over'???
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Cambronne wrote:
Strangely I am receiving even more calls from financial advisors these days! Maybe laid off expats are becoming financial telemarketers on commission-basis while the pool of potential clients is reducing?


me too, actually. I've been receiving them every other day, and no idea where they got my details from. They're all expat advisors as well. If I get laid off tomorrow I'm taking a course at Fudan.

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^Did you go to the expat show last month? If so, that's where they got your details from.
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Post  Posted: Nov 19, 2008 - 10:49 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Typically they get names from chambers' directories and such.

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