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shanghaibarry
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Joined: May 18, 2004
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July 27, 2004 - 10:47 AM |
 
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Ok Edgewood, it could be my perception that there is this typical body smell from Indians and I happened to acquire the same smell everytime after I finish an Indian dinner or lunch, so I relate it to the diet.
and yes, "scent of cathay" may be a more appropriate description. But I think it has a lot to do with hygiene as well as diet too. |
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Edgewood
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Joined: Jan 28, 2004
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Location: Colonial Shanghai
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July 27, 2004 - 01:57 PM |
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Fair point. Good post. |
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Franky
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July 30, 2004 - 04:33 PM |
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Edgewood, no doubt some locals here are very smelly, pretty shamed of those folks, but pls don't jump ur conclusions based on these particular cases. The majority of people living here have daily shower habits. |
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Caesara
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Joined: July 31, 2004
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Location: The Middle Kingdom (Shanghai)
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Aug 18, 2004 - 11:56 AM |
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The pervasive halitosis is the "Scent of China" to me right now. There's also a public toilet half a block from my subway stop that contributes it's input (output? heh) on especially hot days. But I have to say, I've not noticed bad BO from Chinese people - whether they sleep on the street or hop out of luxury cars.
It's the reverse for Indian people, I think. I don't notice the bad breath, but the BO I've had wafted my way could stun a team of elephants. Deodorant. Please.
That said, the absolute worse experience with body scents I've had was on a 36-degree day in August, on a sardine-can-packed bus heading the wrong way out of Rome. I was squashed into the side of a large, hairy Italian guy who had a firm grip on the overhead handbar. His armpit was six inches from my face for 45 minutes, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that he'd never invested in deodorant.
For which sin, I don't know, but I experienced the seventy-ninth circle of Hell. |
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shan_trekker
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Joined: Aug 15, 2004
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Aug 19, 2004 - 10:28 PM |
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Too bad for you, Caesara! Can imagine your dilemma with the big Italian....
But cannot imagine what grave sin you did to merit such punishment.  |
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Caesara
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Aug 20, 2004 - 09:42 AM |
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Big Italian, smaller Canadian. Five minutes, and I'm praying: "I repent my naughtiness! I won't do that again. I repent, already!"
Forget capital punishment - even Hannibal Lecter woulda given in after half an hour of that.
Or bitten the guy's arm.
Which might've actually worked to stop it. Hrm. Damn, hindsight's always 20/20. |
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galaszuk
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Joined: Aug 22, 2004
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Aug 26, 2004 - 04:03 PM |
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I do not mean to be rude and jump in, but this does not make sense.
HOW CAN SOMEONE OWN AN APARTMENT IN SHANGHAI AND STILL BE SO POOR AS TO NOT SHOWER BECAUSE OF THE COST OF WATER!
I have realised that no matter how much money Shanghainese make it is never enough and they will live like pigs (dirt and sweat all over them) and cry poor.
Just my opinion though! |
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littlefox
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Joined: Nov 23, 2003
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Aug 27, 2004 - 12:34 PM |
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i can figure out where you live and what people you meet from your words though, galaszuk... |
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Edgewood
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Joined: Jan 28, 2004
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Location: Colonial Shanghai
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Aug 27, 2004 - 03:02 PM |
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galaszuk, remember littlemoose is Shanghainese, too... |
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abitblue
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Aug 27, 2004 - 03:28 PM |
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no, LF only deals with rich shanghainese, so she does not know there are many poor ones. |
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Edgewood
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Aug 27, 2004 - 03:43 PM |
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Actually, LF prefers to 'deal' with rich foreigners, judging by her posting history. |
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abitblue
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Aug 27, 2004 - 03:56 PM |
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i always deal with poor ppl coz i myself are poor, so will you look down on me huh?
the truth is there are too many poor locals.
who you are dealing with has nothing to do with this matter. |
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galaszuk
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Aug 27, 2004 - 06:31 PM |
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once again I ask
"How can someone own a unit in shanghai at 10000 RMB per square metre, which they have rented out and be to poor to pay for the water for a shower"
Does this sound logical?
Anyone can see he is just a penny pincher!!!
Bloody greedy Shanghainese!!!! should make churches that are for MONEY not God. they would atleast have 20 million Shanghainese as worshipers. |
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littlefox
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Aug 27, 2004 - 06:37 PM |
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seems woofie is bearing a grudge against me, now I know why. Edgywoofie can't get rich foriengers! yeah I can imagine how sad it could be for a white-ass kisser. Be slave of littlegod, I might tell ya how to work on that. |
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Edgewood
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Aug 27, 2004 - 08:16 PM |
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Actually galaszuk, they do worship the Money God here in Shanghai... They have a special day for it, complete with firecrackers. Most houses and businesses have Money God idols as well. |
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littlefox
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Aug 29, 2004 - 02:03 AM |
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| they do worship the Money God here in Shanghai... They have a special day for it, complete with firecrackers. Most houses and businesses have Money God idols as well. |
we all know you are in Shanghai, woofie... |
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galaszuk
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Aug 30, 2004 - 04:39 PM |
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serend
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Joined: Aug 31, 2004
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Aug 31, 2004 - 02:28 PM |
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Edgewood:
While there are many crude and mean Chinese, most of the Chinese in this forum are not among them.
While there are many clean and civilized Japanese, YOU are not among them.
Funny that no Chinese has noticed that Edgewood is waving the blood-stained banners of the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy by way of his message icon.
I am not Chinese and do not generally encourage people to leave, but I will make an exception for you: roll your stupid banners, stuff the flag-pole up your ass, and go home! |
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galaszuk
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Sep 01, 2004 - 06:08 PM |
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I suspect that Edgewood is not Japanese!!!! Far from it!!! |
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serend
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Sep 01, 2004 - 06:38 PM |
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I am glad he's not.
I will be gladder if someone tells me: "I suspect that Edgewood is not human!!!! Far from it!!!" |
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orangecrayon
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Joined: Feb 12, 2004
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Sep 03, 2004 - 06:31 AM |
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I'm a Chinese American who was raised in China as a child but spent most of my youth and adulthood in the States. I'm always proud of my heritage, but I am also appalled by the behaviors of some of my countrymen (like those pointed out by the first posting).
However, I would like point out that as human beings, we are often the product of our environment. China has a rich and long history, and it’s a culture that very much value education, courtesy, loyalty, and respect towards others. These are evident in the many literature and teachings of ancient philosophers and leaders. And then along came Chairman Mao, who changed all that in a matter of a decade. As the offspring of poor farmers, he resented education and tradition, believing that they will threaten his rule over his country. He made people turn on their own family, friends, and neighbors so as to show their loyalty only to him. He changed a whole generation of people, making them suspicious of others and fiercely selfish in defending their own welfare. The need for survival made the Chinese people loss their sense of pride and self-worth. Just like what the Western psychologists suggest: self-actualization is at the top of our tier of need. We only have the desire to become a better human when all our other basic needs are fulfilled.
Having said all that, I do believe that there are many, many Chinese people who are just as kind, sincere, and courteous as their Western counterpart. And the Chinese culture and its people are ever changing along side of the country’s economic growth, and one day soon you will see a whole different country where the people love and respect their land, their own people, and more importantly, themselves. And it is for that reason, many overseas Chinese like myself return to China, hoping to be a part of the force that pushes the society forward. And I hope all of you - the expats who has traveled a great distance, leaving behind your own country and loved ones, will adopt China as your second home. And rather than criticizing all that is lacking, give us the gift of patience, and do what little you can to help us change... |
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xay6pack
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Caesara
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Sep 03, 2004 - 09:04 AM |
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Sincere, coherent and patient while making a reasoned and opinionated point. No venom or irrationality.
I tip my hat to you, orangecrayon. |
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kr3900b
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Joined: Mar 24, 2003
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Sep 28, 2004 - 10:54 AM |
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I think there has been some useful responses above - at any rate, it's excellent to keep an open forum like this to freely discuss differences.
As you continue experiencing these differences in Shanghai, I recommend you check out Cross Cultural Interchange, http://www.ccichinaltd.com. They may be able to assist further. |
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Franky
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Oct 26, 2004 - 06:22 PM |
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I have realised that no matter how much money Shanghainese make it is never enough and they will live like pigs (dirt and sweat all over them) and cry poor.
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where did u get that sh*tty idea?? suely there is some ppl u would come accross daily with their unpleasant BO,,but what make u sum it up with "Shanghainese",,
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Greed Greed Greed!
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Greedy??? If so, why there is still so many foreign-invested Co to launch their new products line or to move their factories into Shanghai yearly? they didnt invest for charity, did they?? (no offence) |
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