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xtina
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We were eating at a Hunan restaurant in Maoming Road when my friend Jack declared that a certain number of expat oldies relocated to Shanghai because here they are able to date young local babes who will not even throw a look at them in their home country.
Before I blurted out “No way, dude!”, two scantily-haired , bespectacled, 50-something white guys with intruding bellies passed by, each followed by a 20-something Chinese girl. Looking lovely in their straight long hair and cotton print dresses, these two girls slightly lowered their head, as if unable to withstand the more or less despiteful stares from the people in the restaurant.
“Suga daddies. Huh!” Jack snored.
I obviously had a more positive outlook of the world than him, “ How can you tell they don’t feel attracted to each other? Look, they are walking hand in hand! This is a gesture of affection which I rarely get from my young pretty dates!”
Then all my friends burst into such a laugh that the waitress nearby looked to be scared. “It’s so easy to be a suga daddy in Shanghai! Just take the girls for a hot dinner in the Hunan restaurant!” yelled Jack after we walked out the restaurant.
On my way home I couldn’t help wondering: does it really matter, the happy life of suga daddy in Shanghai? This city is more affordable than LA and Tokyo anyway. If both the suga daddies and their sweet little girls are getting satisfaction, what else is there left to say? |
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ChanadaGirl
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Aug 22, 2004 - 02:20 AM |
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hmm....well I hate it...I am a Chinsese girl living in Canada, I don't like good looking Chinese going out with old white guys, well , all old guys then...it just looks ugly to me |
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lucar
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Aug 22, 2004 - 08:31 PM |
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This is not unique to China. The suga daddie relationship is age-old and world-wide. If no one is being abused, I don't see the harm in it. Life is all about choices. |
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snowbytes
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Aug 22, 2004 - 11:10 PM |
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does a sugga daddy have to be white,, PLEASE.. I live in a building that is known for sugga daddies,,many young 20s chinese gals living in nice places and they dont work,, nothing to do but look nice and wait for there daddies to come home for the weekend,, most of them are Taiwanese or from Singepore married men in their 50s.. come on we all know that many girls from all races just love money and are willing to sell their souls to be with any man that is willing to let them stay at home and do nothing but eat bon bons.. so it is not only the White man that loves cute young women,,, take a good look at the Asian man they are no different.. a small diff is most of the white guys are at least divorces unlike many Asian men .. I personally know one gal that is 24 very cute and her daddy lives with his wife and 2 kids in Beijing and visits every other weekend,,,, she knows he is married and dosnt care because he has paid for her overseas education and gives her a free place to live plus 500USD per month for her shopping expense,, and that brings up the point of is it the guys fault or the girls?,,, it is just a fact of life that we all have to accept.. remember a few years back the big deal was interacial relationships,, not its no big deal,, so let them all be happy.. |
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Adam7
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Aug 23, 2004 - 12:36 PM |
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The girls in question, are they anything more than good looking and young? As an older, not so attractive western male on a very high ex-pat salary I resent the fact that I CAN NOT find intersting and inteligent local girls to go out with. I want someone I can talk to, laugh with! But all I can find is vacous and simple pretty little things.
I see these fantastic local girls with wicked smiles and cheecy looks in their eyes going out with young, good looking local guys and forginers and it discusts me. They should be with mature guys who can truly apprciate them and their open mindedness. |
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SmileyJanet
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Aug 23, 2004 - 02:06 PM |
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Actually most chinese girls with friendly smiles and sincere looks in their eyes don't act so silly. As i know, these intelligent girls are making much efforts to their carreer and business. You can understand how's the life for shanghai guys if you work in Shanghai, challeging, stressful, busy. They are independent, don't rely on others. Besides, these friendly girls are kind and delighted to help others. Obviously who you met or encountered are not one of them, just the other part of the shanghai girls who are not so good. Like Gabber said, it is just a fact of life that we all have to accept.
Could you please try to see more? I am sure you will find the fact as what i say. Because i know shanghai girls who are excellent, independent, confident. Let's enjoy life in Shanghai. |
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Hyouna79
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Aug 23, 2004 - 02:29 PM |
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I see these fantastic local girls with wicked smiles and cheecy looks in their eyes going out with young, good looking local guys and forginers and it discusts me. They should be with mature guys who can truly apprciate them and their open mindedness. |
What is wrong if they go out with their loved ones...local or foreign? Maybe you just being jealious  |
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Magnolia
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Aug 23, 2004 - 02:48 PM |
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The concept of sugar daddies is global but I think it tends to be more obvious within Asia when a young woman is being escorted through Plaza 66 with her considerably older male companion. The women are happy to be out with an affluent man and the men are happy to have hooked an attractive woman. We have no way of judging the scope or depth of the relationship when we glimpse at such couples on the street. Sometimes, they may be head over heels in love and other times it may be mutual exchange of what the other desires.
It is not the fault of either the man or the woman. As Lucar said, if no one is being abused, then why does it bother so many people? Some may think it superficial or a form of glorified prostitution but is that really fair? Just because two people are not of the same culture, ethnicity or generation does not mean that they cannot have a real relationship. Why they chose to have a relationship (happiness or monetary gains, the list goes on) is between them.
Sugar Daddy sightings may raise eyebrows but is it really something to get agitated about? I would much rather see these types of couples walking along the street then a couple who is obviously miserable. It's not hurting the bystanders on the street to see these couples. |
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Goosie
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Aug 24, 2004 - 04:38 AM |
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I have no problem with it either as long as they lose the hypocrisy.
Young, pretty, and submissive gets rich, powerful, and prestigious. The age-old, currency of exchange.
And let's face it, if you're going to get Jennifer Aniston in this country, you'd better be Brad Pitt.
The problem I have is with the cynics. The westerners who only date Asian girls because Caucasian women have "issues". That "issues" euphemism makes me cringe. Equally obnoxious to me were the Chinese girls in Hong Kong who bragged about "stealing [our] husbands". I suppose on some level, those types deserve each other. I admit that not all of these older man/younger woman relationships are exploitative. But it's laughable to believe that the majority of them are based on love or mutual respect.
Mags, you're right. These couples are certainly not hurting bystanders on the street. I'm more disturbed by what they signal regarding the nature relationships between men and women. And sometimes miserable couples are compelled to stay together for the sake of young children. I respect the commitment and self-sacrifice behind such a decision. |
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xay6pack
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Aug 25, 2004 - 06:43 AM |
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I would love to find a "SUGAR MAMA". Any sugar mama here? I think there is nothing wrong with it either right?  |
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Magnolia
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I'm sweet as can be xay6pack but alas have no money!!  |
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ChunLi
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Aug 25, 2004 - 02:39 PM |
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Sugarmama's are definitely in existance, mind you. However, they seem to play with little Shanghainese men. |
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xay6pack
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Aug 26, 2004 - 01:09 AM |
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Mag, still works for me as long as you know if I meet a sugarmama, I would have to split my time between the two of you. Obligation comes first. |
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Magnolia
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Aug 26, 2004 - 10:33 AM |
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That's ok xay . . . you can scam stuff for me too!!! |
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angesky
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Aug 28, 2004 - 12:05 AM |
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| Adam7 wrote: |
The girls in question, are they anything more than good looking and young? As an older, not so attractive western male on a very high ex-pat salary I resent the fact that I CAN NOT find intersting and inteligent local girls to go out with. I want someone I can talk to, laugh with! But all I can find is vacous and simple pretty little things.
I see these fantastic local girls with wicked smiles and cheecy looks in their eyes going out with young, good looking local guys and forginers and it discusts me. They should be with mature guys who can truly apprciate them and their open mindedness. |
Open mindedness? What do u mean by it? For my understanding, it's crucial to be globalization, grasp the new things quickly, well educatied and have a wide-eyescope. Taste the Chinese food while watching the CNN news, but on the other side, Chinese are more reserved or serious about love.
While most young Chinese girls like to be equally treated , share the common hobbies or views, nothing like sexual relationship like suga-daddies with a baby girl, but about their commons and differences. |
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Evildood
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Oct 25, 2004 - 02:28 AM |
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It's not just foreign men. A friend of mine told me she has friends who regularly see Chinese guys in their 40s and 50s, and are proud of it too. On top of that they have numerous boyfriends etc. |
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IamME
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Oct 25, 2004 - 05:07 AM |
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Older ugly fat chinese guy has younger chinese girlfriend/wife is one of the main staples of chinese society!
All places are fullof suger daddies.
It's totally fine by me, but only because they never take the girls I think are worth dating. lol.
Actually, I'm glad they take some of the gold diggers out of the pool so I don't make a mistake. But I wouldn't anyway cause those girls are never that hot.
It would be nice to have a sugar moma, but do you want an old fat balding woman with a big mole on her face to make you **** her for her dimond earings?
Her son will probably come along and beat you anyway. lol.
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Gardovan
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Oct 25, 2004 - 04:33 PM |
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I see these fantastic local girls with wicked smiles and cheecy looks in their eyes going out with young, good looking local guys and forginers and it discusts me. They should be with mature guys who can truly apprciate them and their open mindedness. |
From your comment I see that you are the most open minded person in the world, maybe it's my fault that something feels still not right about your comment connected with the words "open minded" but I can't get the point, maybe you are willing to help me with this problem?
To the other Topic of "Sugar Daddies" if the girls or ladies doing something to maintain a life besides the pampering, fine with me, but if they just get pampered a life long or at least as long as they pretty, what happens afterwards?
Going around begging or selling themselves openly at the street? Tell me what happens, because like in one story up there the "daddy" is married, so he has his family already and when she get's older her looks are vanishing as well, so no reason to pay anymore.
And it's like a slave - master issue, if she is not willing to please him he just go looking for another willing woman. If you say it's ok, then your thing, if you say they do so on their own free will, ok, but what about the adverts and all the thoughts ppl where manipulated and influenced by?
Ok maybe you tell me something about "yeah,yeah always blame the others" so if somebody runs amok it's fair enough to blame the video games or if they believe in their country and government, actually there are two very near examples. But if it comes to consumtion and the change of behaviour due to this kind of aritficial needs then it's anything else for sure but not OUR ADVERT or our propaganda to buy useless things. Isn't that a bit hypocratic? |
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Why the relationship has to be that complicated? Why man always not enough with one woman?? Are you guys that strong enough?! Anyway.. I am lucky enough, I am married with young expat well educated man and he doesn??t let me go out for work?- no matter how hard I try...guess... different family different value...
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itv1980
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Oct 25, 2004 - 07:37 PM |
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I wouldn't mind if I could stay at home and the other worked. There are so many things to do I won't be bored anyway |
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xay6pack
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Yeah so many things to do such as shopping, having an affair, shopping, sleep, shopping, watch soap opera, watch opra whinfry, shopping, having more affair. |
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rhuei
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| Yeah so many things to do such as shopping, having an affair, shopping, sleep, shopping, watch soap opera, watch opra whinfry, shopping, having more affair. |
What?? having an affair? weks... that's a bad idea!! u want to make ur spouse wear a green hat?! lol... |
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BaDaXianRen
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| Why the relationship has to be that complicated? Why man always not enough with one woman?? Are you guys that strong enough?! Anyway.. I am lucky enough, I am married with young expat well educated man and he doesn??t let me go out for work?- no matter how hard I try...guess... different family different value... |
Rhuei, I thought you were the one looking for another girl to take home with you. now you are talking about family values?  |
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chacha
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Oct 27, 2004 - 09:38 AM |
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The middleage men look like they are with their granddaughters.
The young Chinese girls seem to believe it is okay to break up
marriages. No guilt. Actually confront the wife to get out - and
yet I am speaking from experience.
So it looks as though old balding heavy men have a right to
a 20's sexual partner. Yet the world looks upon an aging
wife as baggage. Especially of she has lost her looks.
What happened to commentment?
I wonder if expats marry their Chinese girlfriend and then
continue to cheat at every turn. After all the temptation
is so great.
Time for a drink of gin/tonic. Wish I was at the Long Bar instead
of on this darn computer!! |
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