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laforge

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Posted: Aug 31, 2004 - 02:47 PM
Post subject: Everage salary in Shanghai

Hello everybody! I wanted to know how much is the everage salary for a foreigner with a local contract (not expatriate) and who speaks 5 languages including chinese - mandarin, both written and spoken, with experience in international trade.I am 29 and will soon become french, I am still serbian. Smile

This information is quite important to me. Thanks in advance to all of you. Vesna

laforge

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Posted: Aug 31, 2004 - 03:20 PM

Allow me to be more precise about my qualifications :
5 languages : Chinese/Mandarin, Russian, English, French, Serbian...
5 years experience in : Purchasing and logistics
Diploma : Masters degree in International Trade - Shanghai Foreign Trade Institute

what salary can I expect with such skills?

Thank you again !!

Vesna

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Posted: Sep 01, 2004 - 12:48 AM

Hi Vesna,

I have no idea about your question, but just wanted to say I used to know a Vesna in Paris, from Serbia. Elle s'appelait Vesna Vidic...Tu connais?
Mathias

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lelicai

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Posted: Sep 01, 2004 - 02:04 AM

Cao Vesna,
da li si u Sangaju?Nemoj mnogo da ocekujes od plate,ovde se mnogo racuna iskustvo.
Odakle si inace?
Puno pozdrava.

laforge

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Posted: Sep 01, 2004 - 06:18 AM

Cao lelice (nadam se da sam potrefila ime),
ne, na zalost, jos uvek nisam u sangaju. Jos uvek sam u Parizu i porodila sam se pre tri meseca. Zato zelim da se raspitam malo jer sam totalno izasla iz "sistema". Ja sam iance provela cetiri godine u Kini pa sam vise nego ubedjena da se sve zivo promenilo i da je sve dosta napredovalo.
Nisam bas najbolje razumela tvj odgovor, da ne ocekujem mnogo od plate nego da se gleda iskustvo. Ja imam pet godina iskustva u "international trade"-u i jos uvek radim u toj oblasti i najvise izmedju Kine i Evrope.
A sta ti radis? je l' si u Sangaju? Koliko imas godina? Je l' studiras ili radis?
Ako imas neku ideju o tome koliko bih mogla da zaradim sa mojih pet godina iskustva i sa pet jezika, bila bih ti bs zahvalna. CUjemo se... Vesna

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Cao Vesna,
da li si u Sangaju?Nemoj mnogo da ocekujes od plate,ovde se mnogo racuna iskustvo.
Odakle si inace?
Puno pozdrava.

laforge

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Posted: Sep 01, 2004 - 06:22 AM

hello Mathias,
Well, Paris is so big and I don't know many Serbians here. As to your friend Vesna, I really don't know her.. sorry.. Wink

Are you in Shanghai? What are you doing there: studying or working?
Vesna

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Hi Vesna,

I have no idea about your question, but just wanted to say I used to know a Vesna in Paris, from Serbia. Elle s'appelait Vesna Vidic...Tu connais?
Mathias

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Posted: Sep 01, 2004 - 05:06 PM

Cao Vesna,
Ja cu biti u Sangaju 17.Septembra.
Ne mogu ti tacno reci koliko ces zaraditi, i ja govorim 5 jezika,kineski takodje,zavrsila sam management,trenutno trazim odgovarajuci posao.
Bilo bi lepo da se vidimo u Sangaju.
U Parizu imam rodjake i cesto idem tamo.
Puno pozdrava!

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Posted: Sep 03, 2004 - 08:09 PM

Hi Vesna!
I m not in Shanghai yet but should be within a few months (target is jan 05) I 'll work there in the automotive industry and intend to increase my photographic activities (a half profesional activity).
Are you already in SH? and what are you doing? By the way the average salary interests me also as I am currently negociating mine with my company Wink

Talk soon
Mathias

hello Mathias,
Are you in Shanghai? What are you doing there: studying or working?
Vesna

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Posted: Sep 03, 2004 - 08:38 PM

I guess the avg salary is 2000 us dollar a month.

With your experience and skills,i think you can get more than 3000 us dollar a month.

The local's Avg salary is only a bit more than 1000 us dollar a year.

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Posted: Sep 05, 2004 - 12:08 AM

Hi there ! Thanks for your reply, I appreciate it.
So, you think that I can ask for 3000 USD per month. SOunds good to me, but we'll see if this is going to be the case. I really do hope so.
But are you sure that locals with the same experience get only 1000USD per year? Isn't it per month? If so, it's really little money.
Are you in SHanghai? Where are you working : which field? Are you employee or employer ? Where are you from? Nice meeting you...
Vesna

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Posted: Sep 05, 2004 - 12:16 AM

Hello Mathias,
Oh, lucky you, you are leaving in January 2005.
If we (my husband, our baby and I) are lucky, we will leave in that time too.. Did you see the reply here above? The average salary (for my case and experience) is about 3000USD per month. That's not bad..
I have to tell you that it is great that your company wants to send you there. Oh, whatta chance...please grab it! My company won't do that, so we have to find the way on our own and it is not easy.
In case you have some information that may interest me as well, please share it. Good luck with nagotiation. Vesna

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Posted: Sep 05, 2004 - 10:22 AM

justali wrote:

The local's Avg salary is only a bit more than 1000 us dollar a year.

So that's about 700rmb per month? I don't think so. Even a waitress makes more than that. For general clerical local staff, I think the average is 1500 to 2000, and for those really capable ones, it can go up to more than 10000rmb per month.

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Posted: Sep 05, 2004 - 04:53 PM

knockknock...

Ehhh...I think you missed a zero there...1000USD is roughly 7000RMB, whihc pretty much works out as a normal salary for a local. Expats will have higher than that for obvious reasons.

Somewhere between 2000 - 3000USD should be reasonable, which works out to be 14000-21000RMB

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Posted: Sep 05, 2004 - 05:20 PM

No, he said 1000 us dollar a year

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Posted: Sep 05, 2004 - 07:39 PM

depending on the nature of the job. May vary between 1500 RMB-2500 RMB for university graduates. More experienced 3000 RMB-5000 RMB. With solid work experience and fluent English can go as high as 8000-10,000 RMB, its not unusual for some elite locals.

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Posted: Sep 05, 2004 - 10:30 PM

Please be informed that the minimum salary in Shanghai is RMB680 a month + statutory required contributions like P-Fund, etc. There's no ceiling if you're on commission based income. I've a local friend with a MBA from CEIBS who can only speak Chinese earn RMB1-1.5mil a year.

Laforge - If you're in the sales profession, ask for a basic salary to ensure you can survive plus a result based return, e.g. 1% for RMB10mil. net sales, 2.5% for RMB10-20mil, 5% for RMB20-30mil, etc.

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Posted: Sep 05, 2004 - 10:51 PM

Sorry,i just got the wrong data.1000 us dollar a year is just the avg salary for a chinese.I think the shanghainess 's avg salary is about 2000-3000 us dollar a year.

with laforge's experience ,the local also can get more than 1000 dollar a month.

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Posted: Sep 06, 2004 - 12:05 AM

Most of the lower paying jobs filled by Chinese nationals are filled by people from outside of Shanghai. Store clerks etc actually get paid on the order of 600 RMB per month (my wife has several working for her) plus commision. Some shops provide dormitories with food. that's why when you walk into a deprtment store there are seemingly endless numbers of staff. From so many, that is near heaven as there is precious little work/opportunity in the uderdeveloped provinces.

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Posted: Sep 06, 2004 - 02:04 AM

Sorry, my bad...reading to quickly Very Happy

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Posted: Sep 06, 2004 - 05:57 AM

Hi Victorian, thanks a lot for your reply.
About the minimum salary of 680RMB a month - in chinese companies or in foreign ones? vesna

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Posted: Sep 06, 2004 - 03:13 PM

680RMB a month is the statutory minimum wage in Shanghai, I suppose it applies to every employer (local or foreign) to pay his employee at least this minimum wage for working within Shanghai. Different city has different minimum wage. Having said that, a lot of local workers who come from outside Shanghai to work here have difficulties getting any pay at all, it's scandalous!!

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Posted: Sep 07, 2004 - 11:09 AM

I heard that for expats, the min. is 3000

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Posted: Sep 07, 2004 - 11:48 AM

knockknock_ca wrote:

I heard that for expats, the min. is 3000

3,000RMB or USD?? I hope you don't mean USD, 'cause I'm getting underpaid, darn! Wink

It really depends on the region... but you can get a good salary in Shanghai, that's for sure!

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Posted: Sep 07, 2004 - 11:55 AM

sorry to disappoint you pal, it's rmb.

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Posted: Sep 07, 2004 - 12:35 PM

wow I must be over paying my staff my PA is Chinese with an overseas MBA she is getting 12500 RMB per month plus expenses.. I have 2 expats that work for me and both of them are getting 1k base plus commision which they are averaging 3k per month.. so I dont think 3k would be a min,, from what I know 2.5-3k is average.. but then again Im in the finance biz and that industry is not known for paying top $$.. Bank presidents here in China have an average salary of $35,000 plus bonuses I personaly know of 4 and they are maxed out at 60-65k and all 4 have an overseas educations and work experience.. so it is all dependant upon the industry and company that you work for and the region,,, a good friend of mine is raking in around 40k USD per month as an indepedant consultant...