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niko
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Sep 18, 2004 - 08:44 PM |
 
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hi,two
serend is right,niko is a local girl:))
the quality of dvds from Joyo,mmm... so so.but "taste of cherry" is ok.i dont know if you have found it.sometimes death is not easy as living,hehe,ironic.
you all mentioned Tarantino,i like "pulp fiction" more than "reserved dog".by the way,have you seen Guy richie's movies,he is called "the second Tarantino",his movies are easier to accept ,for me.bcs i dont like much violence in movie as Tarantino did.
i suddenly think of another film Greenaway's 8 1/2 women(i bought the dvd yesterday).the film is strange,i dont know what the director is talking about,what he is trying to tell us,can you tell me? |
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Sep 22, 2004 - 08:23 AM |
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I have "8 1/2 Women" but I haven't seen it yet---my backlog is pretty long. I have seen Greenaways' "Drowning by Numbers", "Draughtsman's Daughter", "Prospero's Book" and like them; then "Pillow Book" and "The Cook, the thief,......" and turned off by the programatic / Borges side of Greenaway. That's right: I do find a lot in common between Greenaway, Borges, and Umberto Eco; namely, in their common fascination with inherent rules and a deeper order in the universe. Ironically, they all go off tangent sometimes when the play on numbers and the interpretation of symbols get a life of their own and usurp whatever theme there's supposed to be in their narrative. At its worst, it looks silly and childish.
I'll have to watch "8 1/2 Women" to see which category of Greenaway works it belongs to. I am not sure to what extent I can interpret for the director, though: maybe nothing, yet beautiful nothing? |
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FooJay
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Sep 22, 2004 - 08:40 AM |
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No, haven't found any store that carries decent Hefeweizen, yet. Had some German caviar---less than inspiring. Baltic not cold enough?
I usually try to stay away from films set off the Mediterranean coast; at least not without being heavily armed with Kleenex and kerchieves. But I'll keep an eye open for "Marlene's Smile". Is that a German film? By the way, I am a sucker for "Lili Marleen", inspite of my better judgment. Relevance? Don't ask.
No, I cannot lip-read. I can only propose what I would have Murray say if I were the screenwriter: "It will not get better". Or: "All this comes to pass". What would you have him say? Come on, Murray improvised; he's fair game. |
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niko
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Oct 08, 2004 - 07:05 PM |
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i have an idea about creating a movie exchange club.anybody has relevant experience or good suggestion?
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FooJay
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Oct 11, 2004 - 08:54 AM |
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Niko: you may want to start a new thread in SH Open Chat to get people's attention.
I personally think it is a great idea. Of course I will create a nicer screen persona to use before I go. Serend has been nasty sometimes. |
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FooJay
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Oct 11, 2004 - 06:21 PM |
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If you have to say something silly, at least get your English right. Double-wammy silliness is too cruel. Last time I checked, "stealer" is called "thief", and "proparly" is spelled "properly".
I cannot stand people who take pride in HK shopping (it's so, ur, pre-'97, dude......) and who believe "a gold rolex watch makes a man". Keep on watching your "Octopussies". |
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Benoist_Shanghai
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Oct 11, 2004 - 08:56 PM |
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Serend, most of the movies you mentioned can be found at regular 'round the corner shop, if they do get on the market here someday. You do have to go there often and browse the piles, but you regularly find new ones.
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FooJay
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Oct 12, 2004 - 03:58 PM |
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Thanks, Benoist. I have since found a place off Pudong South Rd. where I can find a wider selection.
I have collected all films by Truffaut, most films by Resnais, and 3 by Ozon. Not much luck with Cantet and Sautet, though. Not even once seen a Rhomer. Strange. |
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niko
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Oct 17, 2004 - 07:32 PM |
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i bought Rhomer's dvd in Tianlin Road near Xujiahui,sometimes the shop there provides very wider selection.
about the dvd exchange club...mmm...i'm thinking,i tried to ask the dvd shop owner where to wholesale dvds,but they didnt tell me .there are still many problems....but i will try.haha.thanks for your suggestion. |
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FooJay
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Oct 17, 2004 - 08:34 PM |
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Niko: you are so sweet...one of the few good-natured Chinese I know. Thanks for the tip.
Did you mean Rohmer's DVDs or DVD? Which one (s)? |
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niko
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Oct 18, 2004 - 06:34 PM |
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dvds....but...any difference in Rohmer's dvds and dvd?is there Rohmer brand dvd? haha,kidding.
it's my pleasure to be "one of the few good-natured Chinese".:)but...why "few"?
last week,i saw Claire danis's "friday night". "sentiment" is very popular today,in movie or in life,expecially for young people(or French people?),a sentiment like wind...
have a nice night. |
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FooJay
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Oct 18, 2004 - 06:44 PM |
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Niko I was asking how many Rhomer DVDs you have found, one or many?
I have Denis's "Chocolat" as well. No. not the Binoche film, but Denis's take on colonialism in Africa. Great film with a great plot, subtle chemistry between characters, and excellent, excellent editing.
"Friday Night" will be better with a second viewing. The excellent use of light and shade does not sink in me until a second time.
What do you mean by " 'sentiment' is very popular today"? |
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niko
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Oct 18, 2004 - 07:16 PM |
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4 Rhomer dvds i've found(4 seasons story).great movies are always fleeting in dvd shops.so what we can do is only to catch them ASAP.
" 'sentiment' is very popular today"? i mean(i'm not sure if i can express correctly),sometimes we want do something just bcs we're in certain mood,maybe after 1 second,the mood will disappear.in "friday night",i can feel the mood.
ya,i like the light and shade in the movie. |
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FooJay
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Oct 19, 2004 - 01:50 AM |
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You mean whim?
Tell me tell me where you found the four seasons---I am still missing 3 of them (I highly recommend that you watch "A Story of Springtime" first). Please tell me you didn't buy the last copies......
I must tell you my victory today: I found a 4-film box set of Abbas Kiastokiami, plus one extra film by the same! My Iranian collection suddenly went up by 500%!
I got D9 version of La Dolce Vita, too! |
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niko
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Oct 19, 2004 - 07:41 PM |
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haha,congratulations,you've got more Iran movies.
i've seen 4 seasons story,i like "spring" and "winter"(especially "winter",it almost has changed my attitude to "miracle",i hadnt believed love miracle before i saw "winter".).actually,i bought them about 1 year ago in Tianlin Road(near xujiahui),so i'm not sure if you still can find them there,when i see them,i will tell u,ok?
"whim"....mmm....maybe,maybe not,pls forgive my poor english,i cant find the exact words to express abstract feeling,hehe."firday night" to me,is about the mood,or whim. |
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FooJay
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Oct 20, 2004 - 12:10 AM |
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Niko: just out of curiosity---how come you know so much about international/arthouse movies?
I'll tell you my excuse: I spent many years in Berkeley, where arthouse theaters abound (as lucar knows very well). And there are a lot of video rental places that carry titles you won't dream of finding in US. But Shanghai...pardon my cultural chauvinism, but SH is hardly that place where you may expect such interest (Beijing, hmm, maybe). How did you do it? Any external influence? |
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niko
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Oct 20, 2004 - 10:51 PM |
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my interest in movie may started from university,i had an elective about movie criticism.so i read some books.but at that time,i had no dvd player,so what movie i can see just in school.as u said,there is rather narrow range of movies,even now.quite limited movies in market.goverment likes "pure and clean" and "correct politics pilot" movie.that's one of reasons why there are so many pirated dvds.
most people like commerical movies(especially american high tech movie,do u feel proud?lalala),u must have felt it in SH,but i think ,wherever u r in China,it's same.beijing,guangzhou....even in a very small city or town. |
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IamME
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Oct 21, 2004 - 06:41 AM |
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Just like a bunch of fanboys to collect rather than watch and then talk about movies rather than make them. Otaku I believe would be the correct term.
I don't know why, but I can't stand reading your endless drivel about this crap.
...now that I got that initial reaction out of the way....
So if you don't like Tarentino but you like Sofia, how do you feel about the fact that they're dating?
lol.
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FooJay
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Oct 21, 2004 - 09:51 AM |
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IamME: haven't I trashed you somewhere before? Are you coming back to Papa Serend for more?
And about your profound question: does it look like we give a rat's ass, you daytime-opera-watching, National-Enquirer-thumbing, hair-bleaching trailer-park trash? Take your Prozac (if you can afford it form turning a few extra tricks) and shut up.
...now that I got that initial reaction out of the way....
Go where you belong and **** fukuman and edgie silly.
Where were we, niko? |
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FooJay
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Oct 21, 2004 - 10:05 AM |
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| niko wrote: |
my interest in movie may started from university,i had an elective about movie criticism.so i read some books.but at that time,i had no dvd player,so what movie i can see just in school.as u said,there is rather narrow range of movies,even now.quite limited movies in market.goverment likes "pure and clean" and "correct politics pilot" movie.that's one of reasons why there are so many pirated dvds.
most people like commerical movies(especially american high tech movie,do u feel proud?lalala) |
No, I am not proud of Hollywood blockbusters. Hollywood has turned away from making any worthwhile movies at all. Instead, it now focuses on brain-numbing mronic "epics" or fabtasies, thanks to people with very short attention-span, like IamME there.
In the old times, Hollywood wasn't all that bad. I recently saw "It Happened One Night" and really liked it. Good cinematography, great editing and fascinating cameos (like the singing scene on the bus), really made the silly plot and average acting come to life. The old movies feel so, well, fresh. And so are "How Green Is My Valley", "Lost Weekend" and most of Hitchcocks. These were all commercial movies at its time, but now look like arthouse releases. Can you imagine the Yom Kimpur scene from "Lost Weekend" in a mjor Hollywood release, now?!
You said you took an elective in film at college. If that class is your main source of arthouse film interest, it must be really amazing. You must have some other source of film info. Do you go visit IMDB often? |
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Wasabichez
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Oct 21, 2004 - 10:29 AM |
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Dude! Whatever happened to appreciation of a Kevin Smith movie. The wit presented with coarse idiotic finesse? |
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FooJay
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Oct 21, 2004 - 03:25 PM |
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I love "Dogma". "Clerk" is a little over the top for me, though.
Kevin Smith is the closest thing to "divine malice" that our country in this age will ever know. |
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niko
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Oct 21, 2004 - 07:52 PM |
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american culture has effected chinese people a lot,in pop songs,movies,fashion styles....hollywood film was my first choice when selecting dvds,especially Oscar winner films(i have to admit Oscar was my guide "long long ago",haha),but little by little,i began to doubt Oscar,too many worthless films.
3 american directors impress me deeply.Woody allen,David lynch and Guy ritchie(his style is close to Quentin tarantino,but more funny).what do u think of Woody allen?
my source of arthouse movies info is from books,magazines,and internet. i just learned some theories in the elective.that;s quite limited.after all,i'm just an amateur. |
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FooJay
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Oct 21, 2004 - 09:30 PM |
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I love David Lynch! Have you seen "Mullholand Drive"? If you have, do you have atheory of what happened in that movie? I run into an excellent one a few years ago, an excellent one.
If you like that movie, I'll strongly recommend "Lost Highway", made several years before "Mullholand Drive". Not half as good, but it's a lot of fun to look for early signatures for the latter film.
Don't give up on Oscar completely; the first 22 Oscars were not bad.
Woody Allen used to be my favorite comedy director, but he has made too few black comedies and too many socialite ones. The Jewish sense of humor is very well suited to my temperament, even though, perhaps, Allen is no longer its best spokesperson. Besides, even though I admire Allen's respect and sympathy for urban, career women, I think he's nevertheless too egoistic to understand them.
My favorites include "Hannah and Her Sisters", and "Crime and Misdemeaner".
No, I am not really into Guy Ritchie. "Snatch" and "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels" are OK, but I can't help feeling skeptical towards someone who's already repeating himself after only two movies. I doubt if he's make anything better than "Pulp Fiction". And I "smell the blood of an Englishman"...... |
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FooJay
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Oct 21, 2004 - 09:33 PM |
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niko wrote: "american culture has effected chinese people a lot,in pop songs,movies,fashion styles".
That's why Americans and Chinese have a lot in common-----mainly in their shortcomings.  |
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