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jamiejah
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now that Sir Bob and Midge Ure have called on protestors to march to Edinburgh,..local police politicians and shop keepers are up in arms ...,asking for Sir Bob to pay for the costing off the police , disruptions etcetc.
The same points that the local people put across about the g8 meeting which was ignored London said there would be NO help on the funding off the event and it is the Edinburgh people and the people off Scotland who have to pay for that.
I personally have to still pay a councill tax off over 1000 quid a year ,even though i donb,t live in Scotland for 9-10 months off the year..
anyway eread onPOLICE and city leaders were today desperately redrawing their plans to cope with another massive influx of G8 demonstrators after Sir Bob Geldof urged a million prοtesters to descend on the Capital.
The Live Aid organiser and fellow anti-poverty campaigner Midge Ure ignored the concerns of police and safety officials yesterday to make a plea through the world's media for prοtesters to converge on Edinburgh.
Police face having to try to find extra officers to help ensure the safety of hundreds of thousands of people now expected to arrive in the Capital after the all-star Live 8 concert in London, on Saturday, July 6.
The council has also been forced to go back to the drawing board in an effort to ensure public safety and prevent impromptu campsites springing up across the city's green spaces. An emergency meeting is to be held tomorrow between council leaders, police and representatives of Geldof and Ure to draw up plans to cope with the mass influx of prοtesters.
Ure called on people to start heading to Edinburgh as soon as Saturday's concert in Hyde Park Gardens ends and urged residents, churches and mosques to offer them somewhere to stay.
That has raised the prospect of thousands of prοtesters arriving in the city over several days with nowhere to stay.
The pair have asked prοtesters to gather for a prοtest march, which they are calling the Long Walk to Justice, on Wednesday, July 6, the same day as a pop concert and rally at Murrayfield Stadium.
They have given no details, however, of what they expect to happen in the city on that day. An announcement has been promised next week, but city officials and police have been thrown into chaos by the surprise appeal.
Council leader Donald Anderson said: "Having huge numbers of people here is one thing, but there is a limit to the number of people we can take. We want to play a part in hosting an event that can influence G8, but we want to carry it out safely. We want to save lives in Africa we don't want to put them at risk in Edinburgh."
The call from Geldof and Ure has been widely condemned by police chiefs, business leaders, church figures and senior politicians.
Lothian and Borders' Assistant Chief Constable Ian Dickinson described the move as "irresponsible".
The city is now set to be overrun with prοtesters from the morning of Saturday, July 2, when around 200,000 people are expected to march through Edinburgh for the Make Poverty History march, at least until Wednesday, July 6.
On July 2, a spectacular Live 8 concert in Hyde Park, London, will see most of the world's biggest pop stars performing to a global TV audience. Later that evening, tens of thousands of prοtesters are now expected to start travelling to Scotland. They will begin to arrive in Edinburgh from the Sunday onwards, culminating in a giant mass of people on the city's streets on July 6.
There are no details of where the people will converge, or where they will stay, leading to fears of impromptu campsites across the Capital.
Ure, is organising trains, boats, buses and cars for the journey north, and has called on every city resident to open their doors to the prοtesters.
He said: "We want every church, chapel, synagogue and mosque [in Edinburgh] to open their doors and let [prοtesters] in. Let these people into your garage, your spare room, your garden."
And Sir Bob, who wants more than a million people to descend on the Capital, has urged people to take time off school or work so they can travel to the city.
City leader Donald Anderson said: "I would have real concerns if as many as one million people turned up on our streets. Crowd safety could be a real problem and our over-riding priority must be the health and safety of everyone in the city."
Assistant Chief Constable Dickinson demanded a better understanding of the plans.
"We may need to find additional police officers if large crowds are to be here for a longer period than had been anticipated and that may be difficult," he said.
"There has been talk of up to a million people coming to Edinburgh but, frankly, it is difficult to conceive how they could all get to this area in the first place and where they could assemble in safety. No-one wants tragedy to distract world attention from the aims of the campaigners."
Lib Dem councillor Tom Ponton accused Sir Bob of being "unbelievably irresponsible" and warned there would be "chaos" on the streets of the Capital.
"This is just inexcusable. Sir Bob really shouldn't be arguing for more people to come to Edinburgh," he said. "It's a great cause, and I have a lot of respect for the man, but it isn't acceptable that the city should be disrupted like this.
"To suggest that people should take time off work or school is unbelievably stupid, because Edinburgh has to be able to function as normally as possible."
Tory councillor Alastair Paisley said: "This is outrageous. Does he realise what this would do to the city? The implications are really serious, and Bob Geldof should pay for all the extra policing."
Independent MSP Margo MacDonald also accused the rock star of being irresponsible, and said the city will be "pushed to cope" with so many people.
Tim Steward, chairman of the Edinburgh branch of the Federation of Small Businesses, said hundreds of firms across the city will "shut up shop" after hearing Sir Bob's comments.
"It is irresponsible to suggest this, especially right at the start of the tourist season," he said.
"Tourists will avoid Edinburgh and shops will batten down the hatches. I suggest that Bob Geldof and Midge Ure make a payment of several million pounds to compensate for all the damage, and they should invite everyone round to their houses for tea after the prοtest to see how they like it."
Rev Bill Armitage, of London Road Parish Church, said: "I can't imagine my parish contemplating opening its doors for a moment. This emotional idea is nonsense. It may happen, but if it did it would be a catastrophe for the city.
"Poverty has to be tackled, we have to face up to it, but this is irresponsible."
Peter Graham, clerk of the presbytery of Edinburgh, added: "The churches are supporting the Make Poverty History campaign, but there's a limit to how many people you can squeeze into the city."
Robin Morris, secretary of Merchiston Community Council, said: "I understand Bob Geldof wants to make a point but this is not going to help the city, it's not as if it will bring in millions of pounds to Edinburgh. I think it's unlikely people are going to open their doors to prοtesters. I think most will make sure they are away when it all happens."
Susan Agnew, secretary of Marchmont and Sciennes Community Council, added: "I don't think asking people in Marchmont to put up prοtesters will go down terribly well. I think this is creating something the city can't cope with. Tax-payers in Genoa were paying for the G8 summit for years after it was held, and Edinburgh will have to do the same."
In recent weeks, the council has promised to set up a campsite for prοtesters - perhaps in Meadowbank Stadium or at the Jack Kane Centre. But the news that tens of thousands of people will be in the city for at least four days will put immense pressure on officials to find space.
Former Ultravox frontman Ure is co-ordinating the Scottish side of all prοtests, and he is expected to unveil detailed plans for a Murrayfield concert early next week.
He said Scots rockers Travis would be playing at the event, and said he would also consider performing himself. "Following the Live 8 concerts on July 2, tens of thousands of people will be travelling to Scotland with a sense of great responsibility as we walk the last mile to justice," he said.
"By the eve of the G8 summit - Wednesday, July 6 in Edinburgh - there will be thousands upon thousands of committed people in Scotland's capital - this will be the world's last opportunity to say to the G8 'be bold, be historic, be magnificent'.
"We don't care how you get there. But you have got to get to Edinburgh and let them know what we think. Give up home and school for a week. It will be just like the Ban the Bomb prοtests in the 60s - something special."
Sir Bob added: "Give up two days of work and there is a chance that maybe, just maybe, you can change things a little bit. What's better - two days of work? Two days of geometry? Or participating in something you will remember all your life?"
The day of the Live 8 concert could see the largest demonstration in Scottish history, with up to 200,000 people arriving in Edinburgh for a march in support of Make Poverty History.
Richard Saville-Smith, spokesman for the Make Poverty History march, said Sir Bob's involvement will boost the number of people visiting the city on July 2."Everything is so much bigger now that this has become a global event," he said. "There will be thousands of people involved who wouldn't otherwise be."
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jamiejah
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June 01, 2005 - 08:09 PM |
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i may add that the comments made by local businesses and churches are made from people in the MORE AFFLUENT parts off EDINBURGH |
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GC
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June 01, 2005 - 08:10 PM |
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jamiejah
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June 01, 2005 - 08:18 PM |
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i can,t remember what bvand i,m on,but i,m on the lowest band,the **** wore me down with their incompetence and denails.
i was 6 month going back and forward to them,regulation this act 10 that,they didnae have a scooby,but still insisted it was my ,wit the word aye main residence,couldnae get it in tae there thick nappers that i didnae live in scotland and couldnae afoord to live in scotland.
so i,m paying for the g8 and all the policing that goes with it along with the rest off scotland.
thank **** i changed my flight date from the 2 nd of july,that will have been a mess.
still i feel the connection with the brothers in their struggle,i,ve been disconnected too long |
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GC
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June 01, 2005 - 08:22 PM |
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jamiejah
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June 01, 2005 - 08:22 PM |
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GC you must live in the posh part with that price 1500 what do you get,
dirty streets
nae police
nae libraries
nae swimming pools
cannot se a doctor
left ina cold room for 16 hours and they call it an emergency room
nae lighting in the streets
community schools shut doon
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jamiejah
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June 01, 2005 - 08:24 PM |
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here,s more off your hard earned cash going to waste
THE first sections of the five-mile-long "ring of steel" security barrier that will protect world leaders at the G8 summit went up around Gleneagles yesterday.
The six-feet-high cordon will be made up of 10,000 wire mesh panels which will cost £1 million, police confirmed last night.
The fence will completely encompass the complex and its grounds in an attempt to keep out the thousands of activists from the UK and Europe who are expected to travel to the area to prοtest against issues such as world poverty, global warming and the war in Iraq.
Last night anti-capitalist groups described the latest security measure as "symbolic" but said it would not deter the major prοtest march on 6 July, the opening day of the summit, which will be attended by Tony Blair, George Bush, Vladimir Putin and other G8 heads of government.
Tayside Police Assistant Chief Constable Willie Bald said: "The fence is one element of the security measures being put in place at the venue for the G8 summit and part of a comprehensive policing operation which will prevent unauthorised access to the venue."
"It clearly outlines the secure boundary lines which will be policed and where powers of arrest can be used if anyone attempts to get through the fencing."
Ian Hood, an organiser with Globalise Resistance, said he witnessed tear gas attacks at the Genoa G8 conference fence in 2001 and said the construction of such a massive structure sent out a threatening message.
"This fence is a symbolic act by rich and powerful world leaders having to hide themselves away by creating a barrier between themselves and the rest of the world.
"It is hard to imagine nearly £1 million being spent on such a sinister structure when you consider thousands of people will die of starvation throughout the world during the duration of the summit."
Robin Harper, co-leader of the Scottish Green Party, also criticised the construction of the steel fence. He said: "There is a symbolism in that successive G8 conferences in the past have not managed to solve Africa's ills, resulting in a situation where the G8 in Gleneagles will be held in a state of virtual siege. It is also a sign they are feeling the pressure."
Mr Bald said summit organisers had consulted with Scottish Natural Heritage to ensure the fence - which is being hired from and constructed by Nottinghamshire-based company Trax Portable Access Ltd at a cost of £870,000 - created no risk of environmental damage.
CCTV systems will also be put in place around Gleneagles and police patrols will be stepped up as the work on the cordon continues.
Group 4 Securicor will provide a security presence until police take overall control when the fence is completed in just under six weeks time.
Lothian and Borders Police have said they plan to erect an 8ft tall steel fence around both the Scottish Parliament and the Palace of Holyroodhouse during the G8 summit.
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jamiejah
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June 01, 2005 - 08:25 PM |
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just about every police force north of watford is getting called in
plus 2000 marines |
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GC
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June 01, 2005 - 08:27 PM |
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get nothing for it mate. paying for the large amount of council housing that exists in the area.
plus side is only 3.5 miles from one of the best toursit attractions in scotland. |
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June 01, 2005 - 09:20 PM |
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i never knew you lived near parkheid..3.5 miles away that will be Buchanan street bus station,fine place,bit expensive for a bench though |
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