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The Ginger Prince
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June 25, 2005 - 10:47 AM |
 
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The secret of great soccer
A PROFESSOR has cracked the secret behind the world’s greatest footballers — they don’t THINK.
England and Man U star Wayne Rooney is said to be a prime example because he plays instinctively without using brainpower.
Prof Oliver Hoener, 32, came to his “dumb stars” theory after spending years analysing videos of matches and quizzing top players.
He said: “In a good player, thinking is a disability.
“Mindlessness is a good quality for a striker and good decisions have nothing to do with intelligence, which is why players such as Wayne Rooney show so much genius on the pitch.”
And soccer greats have done little over the years to disprove the professor. Brazilian star Ronaldo once made the enlightened comment: “We lost because we didn’t win.”
Prof Hoener, of the University of Mainz in Germany, insisted he was not saying that stars are all a bunch of thickos.
But he said those who pondered too much on their next move often missed the chance of a winning pass or shot at goal.
He found that midfielders took more time over decisions than strikers. And those who thought too much scored fewer goals.
Perhaps the last word should go to Wales legend Ian Rush, who said after his time at Juventus: “I couldn’t settle in Italy - it was like living in a foreign country.”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005290258,00.html |
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Henry_Chinaski
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June 25, 2005 - 11:09 AM |
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Hahah. Good one GC 
Reminds me of Jardel, ex-Porto. Once asked about how he felt about classic matches (such as Brazil vs Argentina).
"A classic match, is a classic match. And vice-versa"
Obviouslly a very good player.
And Guarrincha after 58 World Cup in Sweden, asked why didn't he buy a radio while abroad as a gift for his wife:
"I didn't want to buy her a radio that spoke only in Swedish. Wouldn't work in Brazil." |
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hammerforlife
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June 25, 2005 - 11:10 AM |
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And of course David Beckham shows similar mental abilities as Wayne Rooney:
"My parents have been there for me, ever since I was about 7." David Beckham
"Alex Ferguson is the best manager I've ever had at this level. Well, he's the only manager I've actually had at this level. But he's the best manager I've ever had." David Beckham
"In a sense it's a one-man show... except there are two men involved, Hartson and Berkovic, and a third man, the goalkeeper." John Motson, BBC1
"Batistuta gets most of his goals with the ball" Ian St John
"Adams is stretching himself, looking for Seaman" Brian Moore
"That would have been a goal if the goalkeeper hadn't saved it." Kevin Keegan, ex-England manager and player
"What will you do when you leave football, Jack -- will you stay in football?" Stuart Hall, interviewing Jack Charlton, Radio 5 Live
"Certain people are for me and certain people are pro me." Terry Venables, ex-England manager
"I was watching the Blackburn game on TV on Sunday when it flashed on the screen that George (Ndah) had scored in the first minute at Birmingham. My first reaction was to ring him up. Then I remembered he was out there playing." Ade Akinbiyi
"I'd like to play for an Italian club, like Barcelona." Mark Draper
"I always used to put my right boot on first, and then obviously my right sock." Barry Venison, ITV
""I never comment on referees and I'm not going to break the habit of a lifetime for that prat." Ron Atkinson
"Without being too harsh on David, he cost us the match." Ian Wright, ITV
"The good news for Nigeria is that they're two-nil down very early in the game." Kevin Keegan
"I was saying the other day, how often the most vulnerable area for goalies is between their legs..." Andy Gray, Sky Sports
"What disappointed me was that we didn't play with any passion. I'm not disappointed, you know, I'm just disappointed." Kevin Keegan
"Strangely, in slow motion replay, the ball seemed to hang in the air for even longer." David Acfield
"He's one of those footballers whose brains are in his head..." Derek Johnstone
"I would not be bothered if we lost every game as long as we won the league." Mark Viduka
"I've had 14 bookings this season - 8 of which were my fault, but 7 of which were disputable." Paul Gascoigne
"I've never wanted to leave. I'm here for the rest of my life, and hopefully after that as well." Alan Shearer
"I'm as happy as I can be - but I have been happier." Ugo Ehiogu
However just so it should be realised that it is not only footballers (soccer) that are mentally challenged......
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." Joe Theismann, former quarterback
"Better make it six, I can't eat eight." Dan Osinski, Baseball pitcher, when a waitress asked if he wanted his pizza cut into six or eight slices |
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SirFiddler
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June 25, 2005 - 11:46 AM |
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA friggin priceless....
there's a book in germany about football players and their stupid comments ...
"Mailand or Madrid, doesn't matter, as long as it's Italy " Andreas Moeller |
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wolfy
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June 25, 2005 - 01:22 PM |
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Rodney Marsh Classics:
* "I don't think Lee Bowyer is racist at all, I think he would stamp on
anybody's head."
* "...comparing Gascoigne to Pele is like comparing Rolf Harris to
Rembrandt..."
* "Wimbledon are putting balls into the blender."
* "Anywhere in the world if you walk down the street and spit in someone's
face you get your head cut off."
* "I'm not going to pick out anyone in particular, but Jay Jay Okocha should
not be the captain of a football club."
* "...and he only gave Rooney a yellow card. That's surrealistic. Just
amazing."
* "I think Sheffield Wednesday are a very poor football team. They are like
a man who's got diarrhoea who can't get his trousers down"."
* After a series of stepovers from (Not The Real) Ronaldo: "He'll have to be
taken off with twisted blood."
* On Jose Mourinho: "Tell you what, if he was a lollipop he'd be sucking
himself."
* On Bolton fielding short-arse Simon Charlton at centre-half: "Never mind
leaping like a salmon, Jeff, he leaps like a goldfish."
Here are some of the best excerpts from Rodney Marsh's diary - a tale of eating, ablutions, sleeping and occasional trips into the Sky
Sports studios. It's just like Bridget Jones, except she never appeared on
You're On Sky Sports...
* 'We are gonna take him out for dinner to celebrate his purchase & go to a
lap top dance club for few drinks.I hope his wife doesn't read rodmarsh.com
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Presumably a 'lap top dance club' is where small, fold-away computers can
earn up to £200 an hour.
Then there was this sad tale - with a happy ending...
* 'Young girl (Sharon) in front of me with tattoo on her lower back. I said
"That's interesting, can I take a pic for my website?"...she said "Yes you
can... it's chinese"...I said " What does it say?"..."Steve" she said. She
then told me she had it done last year to show her commitment to her
boyfriend. "I hope you're still together" I said. "He's dead." she replied.
Apparently he died recently from a cancerous tumour. Had cup tea...'
Then there was the diet. Move over Dr Atkins...
*'Regular readers of my diary will know of my intermittent pschyological
challenges. Suicidal thoughts, occasional over eating during Soccer Saturday
Show and drinking excessively on occasion etc, ...well...guess what? Weighed
myself at Lloydy this am....18 stone....feel like a fat stuffed rat.'
The solution?
'So am embarking on a new regime. Going to start gambling this week. Had
couple of good saturday's. Last few bets have won, so it's off to the casino
for me. Will keep you posted.'
So that was that. Forget all this cutting out the carbohydrates nonsense,
just get down the bookies. And put your money on Marshy talking more
bollocks, like...
* '...stroked Rosie, she missed me I can tell by the way she snapped at my
fingers...put plaster on & went to bed.'
And possibly our favourite...
* 'Popped down lloydy after getting my morning 'latte' at Starbucks....had
scrambled eggs on toast and OJ....read Daily Star cover 2 cover...sat on
toilet for 20 minutes cos had diarrhoea from eggs I think, played 3 sets of
tennis with hot bum hole. |
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hammerforlife
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June 25, 2005 - 01:27 PM |
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It was a famous manager, but I can't remember which one, that was asked why he always took his wife when his team played away games. He replied that she was just too ugly to kiss goodbye.... |
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SirFiddler
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June 25, 2005 - 06:19 PM |
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ha ha ha brilliant.... isnt football just great
I always wonder why no commentator ever went off like " Oh what a fukcing great goal" |
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Rio
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June 25, 2005 - 06:57 PM |
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HC, Jardel, what a brilliant striker that was, scored like 1 goal per match during his period at Gremio and Porto. But he left Porto and it seemed like his scoring drift was gone. Don't know what has happened to him. I remember him playing Ajax for the World Cup for clubs in Tokyo in 1995. Great player.
Andreas Moller, great player, I remember him taking a pose after scored a penalty in 1996 in England, I thought it was against England.
I think people who are too smart, as in high IQ are not fit to play football. Football is a game of intuition. Johan Cruyff for example has the most ridiculous comments, but his football intelligence is unlimited. I think thats the case for most top players. But there are smart players though, people who have degrees in certain disciplines.
Like myself.
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Henry_Chinaski
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June 25, 2005 - 07:03 PM |
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Haha cool that you know Jardel. He was stupid like an empty beer can, but he delivered, specially headers.
I have trouble agreeing with this theory.
Socrates (selecao world cup 82) and his brother Rai (world champ 94) both graduated from top schools, one in Medicine and the other in History.
Not surprisingly two of the most clever football players in Brazil.
82 
Where is jamiejah when we need him. |
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Rio
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June 25, 2005 - 07:23 PM |
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'82
What about Ricardo Izecson dos Santos? His favorite color is white, his favorite drink is water and he likes to read and study. We're talking about Kaka, the greatest talent of Brazili in my opinion and a player like him is born once in 50 years. He has some of Johan Cruyff, he has some of Pele, he has some of Maradona, he has some of Zico, but most of all, to me he is the new Rai (Tele Santa wasnt it?).
So yeah, I do disagree for a part of it, but there are a lot of empty headed players. |
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The Ginger Prince
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June 25, 2005 - 07:31 PM |
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I remember Mario Jardel, Glasgow Rangers had him on trial from Gremio when he was 18 but due to work permit restrictions then they were not able to sign him.
I especially remember his gf, might have been his wife, Karen who was absolutely stunning. Ultimately she dumped him during his Porto time and he had some kind of breakdown. He came back and played against us in the Champions League a few years back. |
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June 25, 2005 - 07:32 PM |
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82 world cup. I was on holiday in Spain with my family on the coast and we went to the semi-final in the Nou Camp between Italy and Poland. Paulo Rossiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. |
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Henry_Chinaski
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June 25, 2005 - 08:10 PM |
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Paolo ROssi. This cnut murdered the dream of a generation. He ruined it all. Stolen in 78 in Argentina by Peru, and then 3 goals from Paolo Rossi in 82. It was a crime for this generation.
82 was the best Selecao after the perfect 70 team. By far. A tragedy of soccer that they never won it all actually. Zico. Zico.
Jardel was an assassin with headers. Trully good. But stupid. He probably could make holes in walls with his big head.
As for Kaka, well, he needs to deliver the promise, but I agree that he is a very special kind of player. He might be the new Rai, yes. Both played in Sao Paulo FC. I think that Kaka is better than Rai physically though. More explosion. Rai was too tall (1,93?) and too heavy to last.
He usually started seasons slowly like an old Fiat. but he had the brains, that can be said of him oh yeah.
Anyway. Only two hours for the game. Can feel a soccer hard on bumping up the trousers in antecipation for the match.
I have sweet memories about Brazil v Germany games Let's hope it stays this way.
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wolfy
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June 25, 2005 - 09:40 PM |
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I think there's a lot of truth in this theory about footballers. The one thing in football which does need brains is managment and you rarely find really successfull managers who were world class players too. Its because they've got brains. |
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June 26, 2005 - 10:19 AM |
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Johan Cruyff during an interview:
- We should have won on paper,but the game was played on the pitch and we lost.
- You never know which way the ball is gonna roll
- In order to win,you put the ball in the back of the net more the the others |
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The Ginger Prince
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June 26, 2005 - 10:59 AM |
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| We should have won on paper,but the game was played on the pitch and we lost. |
thats what they always say about the Scotland team, "great on paper, sh1te on grass"!!!! |
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SirFiddler
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June 26, 2005 - 11:08 AM |
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Anthony Baffoe , a black player from Ghana I think, once played in Germany for a couple of years in the early 90's. On saturday afternoon he got booked by the ref, and said : " hey dude, what you doing, i thought we blacks stick together" ... i can't remember properly but I think he got sent off for this |
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