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acujerjer
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Sep 24, 2005 - 06:30 PM |
 
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Tonight here in Hollywood, California, Al Gore, the Vice President of Bill Clinton, spoke for over 2 hours about Global Warming. It was filmed and they are going to make it a movie.
It was amazing! He had a very intricate PowerPoint behind him with lots of details. My friend worked backstage and got my friend and I in. It was free. Al Gore was totally cool to everyone there. Total bro.
In Summary, the world is in a much worse state in terms of its environment then I thought. He explained how global warming is currently out of control and he showed many examples of glaciers and mountain ice melting. The hurricanes we have been experiencing are due to the ocean warming up. He said that if nothing is done, hurricanes will become more and more intense. Because the planet is warming, due to greenhouse gasses being trapped in the atmosphere, certain viruses and bacteria are surviving when they shouldn't. Many new diseases exist because of this. Mosquitos are living at higher elevations. Greenland is melting. If it continues to melt, New York, San Francisco, Shanghai, Beijing and many places will be flooded. He spoke of the many politicians that don't want to admit this, and hide information for the sake of profit. He screamed how this is much more of a threat then terrorism! The planet will become uninhabitable if we don't do something about it.
He also said that the Petroleum Lobbyist in charge of disinforming the public, became in charge of Bush's Enviornmental Program. Then he left that job, and worked for Exxon. He showed a document with his handwriting of crossing out information and altering it. The US UN ambassasader deleted a whole Enviormental warning document.
It was very close to Al Gore being President. I wish he was. There would be no 9/11 and no Iraq war. He would put a strong effort into healing the enviorment. But he is trying now. It was a great speech! When it comes out you may want to watch it. Very informative. |
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bellabella
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Sep 24, 2005 - 06:39 PM |
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Sounds pretty interesting, I'd be interested in seeing that film. |
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GC
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Sep 24, 2005 - 06:50 PM |
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Did he also mention that the temperature of the sun is cyclic, its the hottest its been for 300 years and that scientists are split as to whether the melting polar icecaps and freak weather is caused by the sun temperature or by pollution induced global warming. |
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lucar
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Sep 24, 2005 - 06:51 PM |
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I hope it isn't squelched. Beware of the powers of censorship in the USA. |
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acujerjer
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Sep 24, 2005 - 06:53 PM |
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Yeah he did go into that. It was a 2 and a half hour talk. But he showed graphs dating back to 650,000 years showing how what we are experiencing now is way different from those cycles and never before experienced in the history of our planet, according to science. This is real. He wanted people to understand that this is not just another cycle. |
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izanami
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Sep 24, 2005 - 07:36 PM |
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I just read an article by Jeffrey Sachs, interestingly in the Gulf Times or some other Middle Eastern publication, and he highlighted how George Bush's ignorance of science is affecting his policies. |
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acujerjer
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Sep 24, 2005 - 07:43 PM |
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Bush isn't ignorant of science. He isn't ignorant of anything. He is right there on top with all the elitists. He knows far more then we could know about the interworkings of the system. He IGNORES science! |
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Henry_Chinaski
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Sep 24, 2005 - 07:49 PM |
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Did he mention the US not signing the Kyoto Protocol?
Did he mention the impact of the SUV fleet in emissions?
Did he mention the loopholes in the US pollution legislation that let Detroit be totally unresponsible about the problem?
Did he arrive in a SUV?
I dont know if it's true, but apparently Noam Chomsky talks all this babble about class exploitation, this and that but he rides a Mercedes. Wondering what Al Bore does from a personal point of view.
Otherwise it's all the corporate shiat again: powerpoints presentations, cool colorful slides to keep you busy but the usual fuqing hypocrisy.
Just wondering man, this aint no attack and I admire Bore in a number of points (his push for Net regulation one of them). |
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acujerjer
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Sep 24, 2005 - 07:50 PM |
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Oh yeah GC. It isn't just pollution. It is our population explosion, deforestation, damming rivers, etc. |
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acujerjer
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Sep 24, 2005 - 07:52 PM |
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I see where this thread is going.
Yes HC. He said America and Australia didn't sign Kyoto. He also said America has the lowest requirements for car emmisions, even lower then China. It wasn't an American patriotic fest. It was a good talk. He's cool man. He also said America is causing 30% of the world's polltuion while China is only at 12%. Europe was second. |
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Henry_Chinaski
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Sep 24, 2005 - 08:01 PM |
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Noted.
While unrelated I remember you mention something on alternative fuel sources. Here goes an interesting article:
Alternative fuels
A tankful of sugar
Sep 22nd 2005 | HORTOLÂNDIA AND SÃO PAULO
From The Economist print edition
Has Brazil found the answer to high petrol prices?
WHILE motorists elsewhere fret about high fuel prices, new-car buyers in Brazil can feel smug. They can fill up with petrol, ethanol (alcohol) or any combination of the two. And right now, ethanol is up to 55% cheaper at the pump in Brazil than regular gasoline.
Brazilians are the beneficiaries of an automotive revolution: “flex-fuel” cars that run as readily on ethanol as on regular petrol were introduced in 2003, and have since grabbed nearly two-thirds of the market. In America some 4.5m vehicles can run on blends of up to 85% ethanol, but that fuel is available only in Minnesota. In Brazil ethanol is everywhere, thanks to a 30-year-old policy of promoting fuel derived from home-grown sugar cane.
Eager for energy independence or lower emissions of greenhouse gases, other countries are now starting to promote “bio-fuels”. But America and Europe favour their own farmers, who produce fuel based on corn or rape-seed that is mainly used as an additive to conventional petrol—and is dirtier and more expensive than Brazil's sugar-based ethanol. So bio-fuelled cars may take years to catch on in other markets.
For Brazil, this is a second try at a failed romance. Prompted by the oil shocks of the 1970s, Brazilian governments used laws and subsidies to promote ethanol-only cars, which had 90% of the market by the late 1980s. But supplies of sugar-based fuel dried up suddenly when planters rushed to meet a surge in demand for sugar. Sales of ethanol-powered cars dropped to nearly zero by 1990—one taxi driver famously set his alight outside Congress.
Flex-fuel cars have persuaded Brazilians to give ethanol a second try. The initiative came from the Brazilian operations of parts suppliers such as Magneti Marelli, owned by Fiat of Italy, and Bosch, a German company. They persuaded the government to extend to flex-fuel cars the tax break previously applied to ethanol-only models. Volkswagen was first to the market, followed quickly by other big manufacturers.
The Brazilian car industry as a whole is struggling. Might exports of flex-fuel cars prove its salvation? Probably not, alas. If the cars become popular outside Brazil, they could easily be made elsewhere. Brazilian parts suppliers are more likely to benefit than car makers. Bosch has sold fuel-supply systems for America's fleet of superfluous flex-fuel cars. Magneti Marelli would probably start by exporting components, but with higher volumes would move towards selling the technology. Brazil's biggest opportunity may be to sell fuel rather than flexibility. Its cost of sugar production is so low that ethanol can compete with petrol even with oil prices at $35 a barrel, about half of today's price.
A bit superficial article as they dont mention that sugar cane culture requires a lot of area AND sorts of fuqs up the soil long run i.e. just available for countries with extreme land resources.
But yeah, well, maybe we do have an alternative, who knows..... |
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acujerjer
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Sep 25, 2005 - 06:30 AM |
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Yep. That's what I'm talking about. I met a guy in San Francisco who has a car that runs on vegetable oil. He goes to fast food restaurants and collects their used oil after they throw it out. He has a diesel engine. Also HC, I believe you can get ethanol from corn as well. Hemp can be converted into fuel too. There are multiple sources not just sugar cane. Who knows, maybe it can eventually be produced at the pump from a mixture of a few chemicals.
Bottom line- There is hope, but unless the oil companies let it happen, we're doomed.
At least we can try it out, like they are doing in Brazil. Little by little.
Homes can be run by solar panels. Gas and electricity power plants aren't necessary anymore. I'm in a house righty now that has solar heating. Money is what is stopping us. Money! Greed from corporations that would destroy Earth for profit. It's hard to spend that money if Earth is gone, isn't it?
Hybrid cars that are coming out now aren't enough. It's still plugged into the same Matrix. Alternative fuel is the only way to go. I believe we have the means, only obstacles to get through. |
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Sep 25, 2005 - 07:28 AM |
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A few points ...
The issue is not whether alternative fuel technology is available or not, but whether the infrastructure can be in place to support that. And as long as the small group of decision makers see it affecting their pocket books it will be a slow transition to get away from fossil fuels.
This applies to most environment issue. You ever been in Dongguan or SHenzhen busy Industrial areas ? It ain't pretty.
And of course there is massive over population, and we are have been raping the earth and it's resources and playing mother nature for way too long.
Heh is the magnetic ppoles of the eartyh going to switch in 10 yrs or so? |
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Goosie
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Sep 25, 2005 - 09:29 AM |
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I don't trust anybody who can't spell "potato". Tipper was the first woman to prove that women can't resist cute blondes, either. |
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R.deWinter
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Sep 25, 2005 - 09:48 AM |
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It was Dan Quayle who couldn't spell potato, not Al Gore.
Just wanted to set the record straight there--you were talking about that, weren't you Goosie? |
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Goosie
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Sep 25, 2005 - 09:57 AM |
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Yes, R. You're right. Sorry - I've had too much to drink.  |
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R.deWinter
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I can relate to that  |
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Goosie
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Sep 25, 2005 - 10:04 AM |
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Thanks for correcting me - I should know better, even under the influence! Don't know why, but even when sober, I confuse Al Gore with Dan Quayle. Maybe there's a reason for it . . . |
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MaomingMaster
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DeeLphiC
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Sep 25, 2005 - 10:48 AM |
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I am an idiot on politicians and politics.
Al Gore is the man of 4Cs - a piece of Cool Calm Cute Curio. lol
Seriously I hope he will be the next president of US. at least he respects science and sciencists. most importantly, he respects nature and lives, knowing where we all come from as well as where we try to get to. I wish he's to be successful and there will be less problems and crisis in US.
Glad to learn that he's been spending time over the GW problem and took time to give the impressive speech. however, i am really sorry it seems that there's still long long way to go in dealing with the toughish toughness - the unusual sun temperature and pollution. personally i dont think there are many things can be done right now about the sun temperature - science and sciencists should have been treated better and with basic respect, instead of being ignored and treated in a cruel and abusive way like what the busheet did. and, let's not to forget that the POLLUTION itself's among those main causes of the unusually high temperature of the Sun. actually the vastly increased termperature of the Sun is just one of those modulatory responses to the tremendously deteriorative environment of the Earth for the sake of the balance of herself and the whole solar system - it consumes energy, and, to some degree, is self-damaged, too.
I see this a rather fair play - every party is and will be paying for whatever they have done that causes damages to human life and the planet we survive on, and/or any unnecessary consumption/waste/abuse of the very limited natural resources.
After all, it is the Law of Conservation of Energy that is what everyone gets to play by.
And yes, it's about time to pay for everyone to learn a bit from all those stupidities that have been done in the past - population explosion, deforestation, damming rivers, etc. - the LESSON.
Those politicians that refused to admit, and hide information for the sake of profit shall ALL get severely BURNed by the Sun then get sent to HELL via the Highway Solar. that may be helping with the Sun temperature. |
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rutuman
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Sep 25, 2005 - 10:51 AM |
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^ lay off the pollutants d |
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frenchlover1999
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Sep 25, 2005 - 09:40 PM |
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I think Gore would have gone to Iraq or done something equivalent and would have got people like Acujerjer to admire him for it. |
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bellabella
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Sep 25, 2005 - 09:47 PM |
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What happened to all Raiderfan's posts? They were interesting and pertinent - why have they been deleted along with all the trash? |
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Henry_Chinaski
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Sep 25, 2005 - 09:50 PM |
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Totally agree. They were pretty interesting and the discussion was very good and fair.
Moderators could you please explain why did you delete it all?
What is the reason? |
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bellabella
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Sep 25, 2005 - 09:54 PM |
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They are all in the pit in "off-topic removal" thread! Not really off-topic to be honest. |
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