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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 03:39 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Wher is you hometown, out of interest?

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 03:43 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Singapore.

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 03:44 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

don't forget Dec. 13 (but) try to remember Aug. 12

You can remember without blame, you can move forward.

"TREATY OF PEACE AND FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN JAPAN AND THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA"

(August the 12th 1978);

Japan and the People's Republic of China,

Recalling with satisfaction that since the Government of Japan and the Government of the People's Republic of China issued a Joint Communique in Peking on September 29, 1972, the friendly relations between the two Governments and the peoples of the two countries have developed greatly on a new basis.

Confirming that the above-mentioned Joint Communique constitutes the basis of the relations of peace and friendship between the two countries and that the principles enunciated in the Joint Communique should be strictly observed.

Confirming that the principles of the Charter of the United Nations should be fully respected.

Hoping to contribute to peace and stability in Asia and in the world.

For the purpose of solidifying and developing the relations of peace and friendship between the two countries.

Have resolved to conclude a Treaty of Peace and Friendship and for that purpose have appointed as their Plenipotentiaries:

Japan: Minister for Foreign Affairs Sunao Sonoda
People's Republic of China: Minister of Foreign Affairs Huang Hua
Who, having communicated to each other their full powers, found to be in good and due form, have agreed as follows:

[Article I]

1. The Contracting Parties shall develop relations of perpetual peace and friendship between the two countries on the basis of the principles of mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity, mutual non-aggression, non-interference in each other's internal affairs, equality and mutual benefit and peaceful co-existence.

2. The Contracting Parties confirm that, in conformity with the foregoing principles and the principles of the Charter of the United Nations, they shall in their mutual relations settle all disputes by peaceful means and shall refrain from the use or threat of force.

[Article II]

The Contracting Parties declare that neither of them should seek hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region or in any other region and that each is opposed to efforts by any other country or group of countries to establish such hegemony.

[Article III]

The Contracting parties shall, in the good-neighborly and friendly spirit and in conformity with the principles of equality and mutual benefit and non-interference in each other's internal affairs, endeavor to further develop economic and cultural relations between the two countries and to promote exchanges between the peoples of the two countries.

[Article IV]

The present Treaty shall not affect the position of either Contracting Party regarding its relations with third countries.

[Article V]

1. The present Treaty shall be ratified and shall enter into force on the date of the exchange of instruments of ratification which shall take place at Tokyo. The present Treaty shall remain in force for ten years and thereafter shall continue to be in force until terminated in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 2.

2. Either Contracting Party may, by giving one year's written notice to the other Contracting Party, terminate the present Treaty at the end of the initial ten-year period or at any time thereafter.


IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the respective Plenipotentiaries have signed the present Treaty and have affixed thereto their seals.

DONE in duplicate, in the Japanese and Chinese languages, both texts being equally authentic, at Peking, this twelfth day of August, 1978.

For Japan:

For the People's Republic of China:

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 03:51 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

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You can remember without blame, you can move forward.

Exactly! Thank you.

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 03:56 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

I still think you would feel differently if half of Singapore's population was wiped out in 1942.

I would if it had happened in my hometown, Newcastle Upon Tyne. There would be no one left. I would feel fu'cking bitter about that now man.

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:03 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

good point LifeMage, there's too much about how evil the Japanese were blah blah blah - it happened a long time ago, get over it!!!!

Europe has forgiven Germany, why can't China forgive Japan?
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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:08 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Maybe. But it's plain and clear that the opinions of many of the younger folk here are merely projections of governmental propaganda and their parents' preachings. Their parents and grandparents have more of a right, so to speak, to be furious with the Japanese of that time for their atrocities. What do the young ones of today got to be pissed off about with the Japanese of their generation? They're simply going to pass the hatred down to their kids and so it goes. Already, they're hating for the sake of hating. It's just plain stupid to me and show a complete lack of ability to form their own opinions.

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:08 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

shut up madibama and bellebella, I didnot say japanese was evil in this thread, i only said: dont forget 13 dec 1937.

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:08 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

some people never forgive regardless of the fact that they weren't even alive at the time.




i have this 19 year old at work who keeps trying to teach me the history of my own
country from his a-level studies. i know that's irrelevant- he's just annoying

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:09 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

"I would if it had happened in my hometown, Newcastle Upon Tyne. There would be no one left. I would feel fu'cking bitter about that now man."

nut crime would have dived natioin -wide, wai i man?

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:10 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

germany apologized and germany apologized sincerely.

japan is a different story.

and madibaman, why you say chinese are all brainwashed? i tell you most chinese arent brainwased like you guys think.
and why you repeatedly say chinese are brainwashed? you mean nan jing slaughter is fake?
fcuuck you madibaman.
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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:11 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

fcuuck you madibaman, dont say brainwashed blah blah...
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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:13 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

fcuuck you madbaman, most chinese arent brainwashed. you are so dumb. even rutu is clever than you.

most chinese dont believe anything gong chan dang says or tells. we arent brainwashed.

so fcuuck you madibaman.
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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:13 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

F*ck me? Not even if you paid me, sweetcheeks. Go screw someone else.

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:14 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

The lame english men's trick is still that, lame.
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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:15 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

if only there was a japanese jjew................


guess my next pseudoname

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:15 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Madi, You come from Singapore... you can talk about brainwashed... Do you urinate in elevators?

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:16 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

ok damn you
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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:18 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

madibaman you dont deserve autorock. you are so fuskkcked up.
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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:25 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

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Europe has forgiven Germany


Germany keeps apologizing every year, several times a year in fact, since the war is over. They have gradiose ceremonies for that, such as celebrating the liberation of concentration camps, one by one, everytime German leaders come to apologize. Alliance countries always send top level delegations to attend the gatherings. Very different from what we see in Asia.

Sorry Madi, what I meant is would you still peeing in elevator without the urine detectors and the heavy fines? Would you start peeing again if those measures were lifted? Are you male or female?

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:27 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Japan-China Fight Over History Rooted in the Future

By Jefferson Morley
washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 19, 2005

"It's not just about history textbooks.

Anti-Japanese riots in China are not only due to enduring memories of Japanese imperial rule in the early 20th century, say online commentators, but also stem from concerns about the future ambitions of both countries' governments.

"The main reason for the current round of anti-Japanese sentiment in China is Tokyo's campaign to become a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, a role that would challenge China's supremacy in Asian leadership," wrote columnist Steve Vines in The Standard, a financial daily in Hong Kong."


read the full article here~ http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63802-2005Apr18.html

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:27 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Sure, FL, I piss everywhere, especially in elevators. Want me to swing on by and piss in your living room? Smile

Happyending, leave autorock out of this. If you're mad at me, form a coherent sentence first. Otherwise, shhh.... there. Good boy.

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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:30 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

ok madibaman. tehn why you say we are brainwashed under my thread? do you mean nan jing slaughter is fake? answer me.
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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:35 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Yes.


Chinese people pay attention - shiit happens.

War is hell - Move the **** on.
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Post  Posted: Dec 13, 2005 - 04:35 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Lifemage your argument bites his own tail. What comes first, Japan committing atrocities all over Asia or Japan trying to become a permanent Security Council member? The question is why Japan is so unapolegetic compared to Germany - which I repeat is apologizing every single years, many times a year in fact? Whats the difference? Is it that the Jew deserve more apologies? Or they have more power to force nations to bow down? Either way, the answer is interesting.

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