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happyending
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Dec 13, 2005 - 04:37 PM |
 
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mmm shut your mouth, you cnut. |
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MaomingMaster
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Dec 13, 2005 - 05:02 PM |
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Wel, at least you've learnt a new word...... |
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*CheerLeader*Mao
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Dec 13, 2005 - 05:04 PM |
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he even spelt it right  |
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skyline5k
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Dec 13, 2005 - 05:09 PM |
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| happyending wrote: |
| mmm blah blah blah, you blah blah. blah blah laowai blah... |
Does anyone else "hear" this? |
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happyending
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Dec 13, 2005 - 05:23 PM |
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ok but i dont like cnut this word. it is too offensive, but then mmm deserves such insult. HAHAHA. ok i admit mmm isnt very bad. signing off |
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skyline5k
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Dec 13, 2005 - 05:27 PM |
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shanghaiphooey
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Dec 13, 2005 - 05:34 PM |
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How can someone learning english without knowing the word cnvt? That's 50% of that culture, or was that actually more like 100%? |
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bellabella
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Dec 13, 2005 - 08:03 PM |
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Hasn't Japan apologised? And how many times can a country apologise for what happened 60+ years ago anyway? Of course people of my grandmother's generation may still carry around some hate for the germans, but that is totally not true for my parents and my generation. Why can't the chinese do the same? |
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dfoo
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Dec 13, 2005 - 08:31 PM |
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My mother certainly hates the Germans. See FL posts for more information on apologies. |
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happyending
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Dec 13, 2005 - 08:40 PM |
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in this world, if there are two ppl, one of them is you, you cant trust japanese, then german.
or just imagine there are only two ppl left on an isolated island and being desperate for food and water, and one of the two ppl is you, if the other is japanese, definitely you cant trust him; and if the other is german, still you cant fully trust him; and if the other is chinese, then if you are lucky, that means he is a good chinese (50%), you can fully trust him; |
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happyending
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Dec 13, 2005 - 08:40 PM |
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I have heard human can eat human's body if too hungry and no other food or meat... |
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happyending
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Dec 13, 2005 - 08:42 PM |
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if you are not lucky and meet a bad chinese, then that does not mean he will kill and eat you, but he will compete with you for food and meat. if you are lucky and meet a good chinese, then he will let you eat first. |
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Boss
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Dec 13, 2005 - 08:53 PM |
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In Europe we remember the days when the second World War finished and when the Japanese and the Germans surrendered. Only we are thankful that those days are passed but just wish to remember the sacrifices that were made. These ceremonies are be thankful that we are living in peace.
You are suggesting the opposite, that you should remember to keep your hatred high. In my opinion that makes you little more than an animal. Even animals do not hate each other as much as you do. |
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bellabella
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Dec 13, 2005 - 08:57 PM |
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ok happyending you are mental, how did a discussion about japanese atrocities and whatever turn into being stranded on a desert island having to eat people.
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| if the other is japanese, definitely you cant trust him; and if the other is german, still you cant fully trust him; |
this is ridiculous, you can't judge a person's behaviour or actions based on their race! That is completely racist and stupid! There are good and bad germans and japanese, you can't tar everyone with the same brush. |
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summer1720
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Dec 13, 2005 - 09:08 PM |
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13 Dec 1937, the start og Nan Jing slaughter by Japanese army... 300,000+ people were murdered...
Right now,we move on...
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frenchlover1999
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Dec 13, 2005 - 09:13 PM |
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Hasn't Japan apologised? And how many times can a country apologise for what happened 60+ years ago anyway?
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See my posts. Germany apologizes all the time, every year, since the end of the war, and not just on the main commemoration days.
There are two main reasons why you foreigners cannot understand the Chinese/Korean feelings towards Japan:
1. Asia is far from Europe and we are basically not aware of what happened here. Reason 2 also explains why we have not heard that much about it.
2. German killed jews (and many others which have since been forgotten) with access to vast resources to promote their cause. The Japanese mainly killed poor hapless Chinese people.
In fact it is not just China who has this feeling towards Japan. Many other Asian nations share this. But we blame China because everything is to be blamed on communists. Even after the regime collapses, everything bad that will happen afterwards will be blamed on the commies (see former Soviet Union). |
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bellabella
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Dec 13, 2005 - 09:14 PM |
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I don't really understand why you quoted that particular part of what i wrote summer1720. what does it have to do with what you wrote? |
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Boss
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Dec 13, 2005 - 09:17 PM |
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| frenchlover1999 wrote: |
| There are two main reasons why you foreigners cannot understand the Chinese/Korean feelings towards Japan: |
Once again you have quoted a glib superficial answer without actually listening to what people have said. No-one is saying they cannot understand they are basically saying that they should get over it. |
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bellabella
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Dec 13, 2005 - 09:19 PM |
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| See my posts. Germany apologizes all the time, every year, since the end of the war, and not just on the main commemoration days |
and do you think that this is right? should they continue apologising until all living memory is gone and afterwards?
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2. German killed jews (and many others which have since been forgotten) with access to vast resources to promote their cause. The Japanese mainly killed poor hapless Chinese people |
and why does this make the japanese worse? And anyway 6million jews were killed, it was genocide. This doesn't really equate to 300,000. Although I don't want to get into an argument about who is worse, put it in some perspective. |
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frenchlover1999
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Dec 13, 2005 - 09:25 PM |
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It doesnt make the Japanese worse! It makes same the same as Germans! And the Chinese have the same rights as the Jews, who use this to justify their own crimes and annexion of land for more than half a century, and make Germany apologize again and again and again! Double standard.
By the way I believe 300,000 was the number of victims in Nanjing alone. |
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jamiejah
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Dec 13, 2005 - 09:38 PM |
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of course all open minded modern chinese forget the 13th dec,its the dat after my birthday ,and as all people know the nscots love A PARTY AND EVERYONE IS INVITED,so off course they forget ,as the scots are no shy on filling everyone and anyone up with alcohol to the point off passing ot,so how can they remember the 13th as well as the 12th december
funny even though nae wan can remember f all they all said it was a great night....strange |
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lemongrass
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Dec 13, 2005 - 10:21 PM |
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WSL, bella is right, it is stupid to judge a people's bahavior only based on their nationalities. Good and bad people exist at every corner of the world. Stop coming up with the retarded statement like that.
I dont insist Chinese being steeping in the past from time to time. We should learn from the past, not whine about it every single days. It doesnt make any sense. Take a look at Japan, they are the loser in the World War but now they are one of the biggest developed countries in the world. How about China? We still have tons of people living under poverty line, suffering the 'earning' everyday. Does it sound wonderful? I would prefer to see the government pay more attention on how to get rid of poverty rathen than waste time stiring up the citizens to hate Japanese.
History is history. Just because you acknowledge it, it doesnt mean that you have to talk about it over and over again. Hate is not the medicine to any diseases. |
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frenchlover1999
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Dec 13, 2005 - 10:22 PM |
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To help you put things into perspective for those of you who can. It does help to take a cold shower and admit (or imagine) you have been brainwashed:
A French university professor, also member of the European parliament, is facing charges in court because he said the following:
"It is up to historians to discuss whether gas chambers existed or not"
"Personally I do not deny their existence"
He also stated that historians have "the right" to discuss "how many people died, how they died" under the nazi concentration system, adding "I do not deny those camps existed".
He is going to court for saying this. No joke, all facts. The European Parliament just suspended his parliamentary immunity. He also lost his job at the university for 5 years. |
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MaomingMaster
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Dec 13, 2005 - 10:23 PM |
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Lemongrass - that has to be one of the most truly enlightening posts of the week. |
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Kiwi
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Dec 13, 2005 - 10:26 PM |
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The retards have been let out of the cupboard again!
Estimates of Japanese civilian casualties for the the firebombing of Tokyo, the Hiroshima bomb and the Nagasaki bomb are around 300,000. But you don't often hear Japanese preaching hate and claiming victim status on the basis of this.
Perhaps the Chinese racists and their western apologists could first consider that and then consider shutting up?
If Japanese hatred is still clouding your thinking then consider the bombing of Dresden, which claimed the best part of another 100,000 civilian lives.
In all of these cases the aggressive forces were trying to make a point. The Nanjing Massacre was designed to scare China into surrender. The atomic bombs were not only to force Japanese surrender but also to show the Russians that America had the bomb. Dresden was also as much for Stalin's benefit as for anything else.
Each event was horrible and criminal.
But the point is that the world (including Japan) has moved on while China hasn't. |
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