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lazyyorkie
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May 08, 2006 - 05:00 AM |
 
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The longer I'm in SH the more I realise: most westerners have no respect for the culture, no respect for Chinese tradition. Treat the whole place like a meat market. How long will it be before the whole city goes down with AIDS?  |
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Nathalie25
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i am also thinking about now...... |
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kulthenius
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May 08, 2006 - 12:11 PM |
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I haven't seen anything in this country or any other asian country i've been to that I haven't seen in the US or Europe. many westerners do have no respect for the culture and traditions. I have no respect for any tradition or culture in the world, I base my respect on people, and actions, not a set of norms that were developed by a different generation of people and are now regarded as demigodical religion.
meat markets are everywhere, some people just like to eeek, there's nothing wrong with that, its just their lifestyle, hopefully it doesn't come down to a city of HIV infection, but if that happens we'll just have to deal with it. |
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lazyyorkie
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May 08, 2006 - 01:32 PM |
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I think like this: If we are here as guests of China then, the least we can do is show some respect to those who have deep cultural beleifs even, we may not beleive in them ourselves.
Embracing the Panda sure as hell doesnt mean screw as many girls as possible. I know plenty of Guys with 4 or more girls on the go!
You can guess what the older generation think about all long noses with round eyes. |
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Kiwi
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May 08, 2006 - 01:36 PM |
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And I know plenty of locals (male and female) doing precisely the same.
A common Chinese cultural belief is that provided the guy gives his partner sufficient financial support he is free to do whatever he likes on the side. This is the country where polygamy was traditionally perfectly legal provided you could afford it. |
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kulthenius
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May 08, 2006 - 03:36 PM |
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Yorkie, I get what you're sayin, but uh, i'm not a guest here, this is where I live now, it doesn't matter if I'm from a different country. respect is respect, and disrespect is disrespect. definately embrace the panda as you say, but if the panda bites me i'm gonna kick its ass.
I'm not condoning the actions of many people in regards to the asian bangfest that many foreigners seem to enjoy. kiwi made an excellent point about the actions of the locals. and I gotta say this place was a meat market before laowai arrived, I don't know what all the older locals think about mixed babies, i think its a good thing, but i ssee a lot of the old timers eye-fvkking the whack shack girls or any girl who walks down the street with a skirt on. |
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Macpod
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May 08, 2006 - 05:38 PM |
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And I know plenty of locals (male and female) doing precisely the same.
A common Chinese cultural belief is that provided the guy gives his partner sufficient financial support he is free to do whatever he likes on the side. This is the country where polygamy was traditionally perfectly legal provided you could afford it. |
true. china is very rich in culture. this is just a part of its 'richness'. |
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lazyyorkie
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May 08, 2006 - 08:59 PM |
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This is a good deal or not?
The Mosuo practise what they call ??walking marriage'. If a girl likes a boy she will make a sign with her eyes to let him know or by delicately scratching the palm of his hand. A Mosuo boy might leave a stone outside her family's house. He will then visit the house at night, often on horseback, and spend the night with her.
In the morning, however, he leaves and returns to his mother's house, where he takes all his meals and where he is expected to help with family chores. Mosuo couples do not live together. Any children born from a union are brought up by the girl, her sisters and brothers. The fathers play no part in raising them. There is no arrangement binding couples together either. Once the love dies the girl may find her nightly visits suddenly stop, or she might choose not to open the door to her lover. |
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lazyyorkie
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May 08, 2006 - 09:01 PM |
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Wow, Guys get your stones and shoot down to the Blue Angel haha |
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kulthenius
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damn it, some dickhead stole my stone. sure is an interesting way to engage in relations, and i must say is a little more appealing than this one:
in Melanesia male homosexuality is viewed as a natural, normal, and is considered necessary; thus it is prescribed by the culture. For Melanesians, age organizes the homosexual behaviors. it doesn't occur between same aged individuals, but between adults and pubertal boys. the older is always the...uh...pitcher, and the younger.....well...you know, the catcher. In this society these acts are viewed as a rite of passage that is necessary to finish off the pubescent growth, and semen is viewed as a rare resource that aids in the process. Then after puberty, the boys are expected to marry, have children, and then to....uh...."assist" other young boys on their right growth in adulthood.
for some reason Fiji just doesn't sound that enticing to spend the next 25 years in. |
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Kiwi
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May 09, 2006 - 10:57 PM |
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Never heard of what you described being practiced in Fiji. Wrong part of the Pacific so far as I know. |
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lazyyorkie
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Kult: Tru or false hehe, the Mosuo are in China. |
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kulthenius
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yorkie, honestly i have no idea as i've never heard of them, or if I have they slipped my mind, I was gonna ask you where they're located. |
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kulthenius
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Kiwi, as far as I know these practices may no longer exist as more and more the western influence (according to the article) is changing the cultural practices. and the article was written 20 years ago, so most places in the melanesia areaprobably have eradicated this practice, but I wouldn't be surprised to find some places still holding to the old ways. |
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lazyyorkie
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Shanghai. May 11. INTERFAX-CHINA - China's first AIDS consulting hotline for homosexuals was set up in Shanghai and Guangzhou on May 10. Homosexuals, from all around China, can phone the free hotline 800 988 1929 or 021-63804448 (for mobiles) for "inquiries and consultations on physiological and law matters for homosexuals."
The Guangzhou hotline will mainly deal with the information consultation on AIDS infections, while the hotline in Shanghai will be mainly responsible for dealing with inquires on physiological problems and related laws on AIDS.
The two hotlines, funded by Hong Kong based Chi Heng Foundation are available to answer inquiries without asking for the personal information of callers.
According to the chief in charge of the Guangzhou hotline, most of the team who will deal with phone calls have educational backgrounds in medicine, psychology and sociology, and have already been trained in related knowledge on AIDS.
The chief of the Shanghai hotline, Xiao Xu, said all the volunteers answering the hotlines are homosexuals, and he said, only by this method, will the people who deal with the inquiries be able to think from those callers' standpoint.
"Homosexual people are a very special group of people in China, and not many of them have been recognized by the society," Xu said, "homosexual peoples' service for homosexuals is our first doctrine."
"To protect the callers' privacy is the most important task for our hotline." Xu said every volunteer has received training retaining caller privacy. Currently the Shanghai hotline has recruited 15 people for providing psychological consulting services and three for law related inquires.
At present, China has many hotlines for homosexuals to voice what are officially termed "emotional pressures," but this is the first hotline to provide homosexuals with all-round information on AIDS. |
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beautifulstranger
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July 11, 2006 - 04:12 AM |
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shanghaimen
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July 11, 2006 - 06:35 AM |
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There are 56 ethnic minorities in China. In some regions such as Yunnan and Guizhou, what lazyyorkie ment ionedstill exists. These provinces have very very traditional rich culture which is truly amazing. Shanghai's booze and babes culture can NEVER be compared to them.Their unique heritage has developed and maintained over hundreds of years.
Yet, Shanghai pops up with its modern skyline, glamourous shopping malls, intoxicating bars and pubs. I have nothing against western culture etc. But if you put it in the context of China's history and culture, Shanghai's recent raise to fame has not a place to stand on. If the current trend continues, this further proves the point. An interesting note to point out is the demolition of Shikumen, Longtang to make way for those glitzy spectacular skyscrapers. This is the change brought about by the influx of the west. |
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shanghaimen
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A Question for you. Who is Lu Xun ? |
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GC
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July 11, 2006 - 06:45 AM |
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the guy who won the 110 metres hurdles |
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sarahs
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July 11, 2006 - 09:43 AM |
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| A Question for you. Who is Lu Xun ? |
One of the first modern writers to write in the vernacular language. Wrote a great essay on women and chastity. |
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ask_weasal
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July 11, 2006 - 12:17 PM |
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Not everyone wants to screw everything in sight. Right now its a fad. It will die out soon. Once Chinese women and men find out we are as normal as any Chinese dude or gal. I think that many people like the lifestyle that we lead. Through centuries of repression, now some are allowed to realease. Of course you are going to have an influx of high sexual tension. Its not disrespecting the culture. Chinese come to America and do the same things. set up stores do business, bang broads and dudes. Its the same everywhere. China will never lose it's culture , dont worry about that. I think all of this sex and crap was already there. Ever heard of Concubines? |
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July 11, 2006 - 08:23 PM |
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Please do not be offended ask_weasal but if you notice the ads on the classified section looking for girlfriend etc, there seems to a big trend in people requesting the pleasure of open minded women. Even in this forum, there are people asking for groupsex, lesbian sex, gay sex ?, menage-a-trois. It does seem that there is an overiding majority who do come here and screw everything in sight. It will die out once the doers die out of sexually transmitted disease. Yes, I have heard of concubines and mainly Emperors and the rich men would enjoy this "privilege". |
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ask_weasal
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July 12, 2006 - 12:14 PM |
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Well unfortuantely everyone is an emperor. And it's all about supply and demand. If the Chinese women and men here didn't want to have sexual affairs, it wouldn't be so popular. Sex is fine jsut use protection. Its a normal human biological desire. just don't let it get out of control |
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TheDudeAbides
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July 12, 2006 - 03:18 PM |
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I agree with Kiwi. The reality of it is a lot of Chinese girls will more or less sleep with anyone who provides. That is in no way restricted to any particular skin colour, it just becomes more obvious when it's popular within a minority group such as foreigners. But especially amongst Chinese with a bit more money than the rest, it's also not an uncommon practice. |
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GoldBond
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July 12, 2006 - 08:28 PM |
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No way. Chinese people are perfect. They are composed of outstanding moral fibre, far thicker a fabric of chastity, patience, honour, and honesty than us barbaric foreigners. Just ask any Chinese person. Before the foreigners came and began their campaign of corruption against the pure and beautiful Chinese race, everything was hunky dory over here. No one sleeping around. Everyone practicing monogamy and not a whack-shack in sight. Seriously. |
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