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hshar
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July 05, 2006 - 11:37 PM |
 
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Has anyone done a Lasik (Laser eye correction surgury) in Shanghai?
How was it?
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hammerforlife
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July 06, 2006 - 09:01 AM |
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Not in Shanghai but I did one in Hong Kong last year. Went very well. If you want to know the details let me know. |
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rxg
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July 06, 2006 - 09:09 AM |
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Not in SH but in the US. This is the best money I have ever spent! As soon as I had the surgery done - I could drive myself to the doctor the next day for check up. It was amazing. I can go swimming with worrying about losing a contact lense. I HIGHLY recommend it to anyone. But make sure you check the credential of the doctor - since you only have one pair of eyes and they don't grow back! |
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YariGuy
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July 06, 2006 - 09:15 AM |
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| since you only have one pair of eyes and they don't grow back! |
Eyes don't grow on trees you know.
My friend had hers done in Beijing (this was at least 5 years ago) and it went well. |
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hammerforlife
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July 06, 2006 - 09:16 AM |
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Agree with rxg. I could have had it done in Shanghai but when it comes to my eyes I would happily pay more for the best. That's why I went to Hong Kong. An Aussie guy did it with a long and successful track record. |
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YariGuy
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July 06, 2006 - 09:16 AM |
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| since you only have one pair of eyes and they don't grow back! |
Eyes don't grow on trees you know.
My friend had hers done in Beijing (this was at least 5 years ago) and it went well. My fear has always been when they cut a flap in your eye. Did that hurt? How do they do it? |
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rxg
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July 06, 2006 - 09:54 AM |
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They have to check to see if you could have the procedure done. If you can, then it takes 8 minutes, 4 on each eyes. It doesn't hurt. It feels like someone squeezes lemon juice in your eyes. It is worth the trouble since you could do without contact lenses and glasses for the rest of your life.
Think about all the cool sun glasses you could wear!  |
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hammerforlife
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July 06, 2006 - 09:58 AM |
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They have to check to see if you could have the procedure done. If you can, then it takes 8 minutes, 4 on each eyes. It doesn't hurt. It feels like someone squeezes lemon juice in your eyes. It is worth the trouble since you could do without contact lenses and glasses for the rest of your life.
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Lemon juice in your eyes does not sound so good.... I couldn't feel anything at all.
YariGuy, they use a special instrument to cut the flap (can't remember what its called) and according to the guy I had the design of this instrument is the biggest development of recent years. Apparently its incredibly accurate down to a few microns.
Basically you have to be careful for a few days afterwards but you should be able to see really well the next day. I could have passed the driving test requirements the next day easily. |
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Snippets
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July 06, 2006 - 10:17 AM |
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I had it done in New York City almost 6 years ago by someone with, up until that time, had a stellar reputation.
The procedure is very simple and should be completely hassle free, so if you notice anything unusual during the process, it's a red flag and you should not only question what is happening, but probably stop. More why in a moment.
They begin by making a 3-D topographic map of your eyes and with this information, they determine how to re-shape the surface so you can see normally. They load the data into the laser, then give you a nerve block and 'freeze' the eye so it does not move.
Next, they place a cutting device on your eye, called a microkeratome, which is a simple single blade that is on a roller and it cuts the flap. THIS DEVICE IS SUPPOSED TO GENTLY SIT ON TOP OF YOUR EYE! IF THEY NEED TO FORCE IT IN TO FIT, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE. More later.
Takes 3 seconds to cut the flaps, the doctor gently lifts the flaps open while you are laying on your back under the laser. They line up everything, flip a switch and the machine takes over. You really do not feel anything while it is burning your eye, but I did smell the burning flesh. Takes only a few minutes for each eye. Put the flaps back in place, put on your nifty shades and go home. And hopefully you can see the next day.
In my case, I have deep recessed eyes so the microkeratome did not fit. Of course I had no way of knowing this at the time or know what the normal procedure was. I had 2 surgeons there working on me and that further re-assured me. Since it did not fit, they became frustrated and decided to force it in , which was a terribly painful experience, because they had to get both sides in under the bones making up my eye opening. I was screaming the entire time AND I have it all on video if anyone cares to watch and has VCR.
A few days after the procedure, I lost my vision in my right eye. The eye is an enclosed object, like a ball, and when they exerted this massive amount of pressure on my eye, small capillaries inside of my eye burst, and unfortunately, right in front of my macula. The macula is the tiny little part of your eye that gives you the ability to focus.
Luckily I was living in Manhattan and had access to the best macula specialists in the country. Immediately went in for surgery and months of experimental procedures which saved my sight. It took a lot of drastic measures and thousands of dollars to save my eye but thank God they did. If it wasn't for the fact that these group of doctors do pioneering research, I would be completely blind in my right eye now. I still cannot focus perfectly well out of my right eye, but I can see. My left eye compensates and although I experienced a true nightmare, I still highly suggest qualified candidates to get it done. |
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hammerforlife
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July 06, 2006 - 10:22 AM |
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Bloody hell Snippets that's going to make people run a mile from having this done. However you explain the reasons for your problems well so hopefully its an exception rather than the rule. Good to hear that you at least got decent treatment in the end. |
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rxg
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July 06, 2006 - 10:30 AM |
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Ouch! Snippets! If I heard your story, I would never have this done. This is the more reason do to this procedure in a first world country. If this happened in SH, do you think Snippets might have gone blind! Unless he can pay upfront? |
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ameatp
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July 06, 2006 - 12:11 PM |
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Ouch is right. To painful to visualize, but you do have it on video for future enjoyment.
So what is the price differences between HK, Shanghai/Beijing and US? Is it considerably lower. I have seen ads, in some places, in US as low as 500 dollars per eye. There is a guy that has good relationship with my company, in US, but he charges 1200 per eye, but that also includes consultation before and after, and also any future modifications if needed. I've not had it done because little pricey for me at the moment. |
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phiota
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July 06, 2006 - 12:36 PM |
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I still think in general Lasik is safe otherwise with so many medical lawsuits in the states the proceedure would no longer be offered but like all medical proceedures accidents/mistakes happens. I also think in general a specialist/expert in Shanghai performed in a world class hospital would be as competent as a average doctor in the states while still costing much less.
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robertjan
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July 06, 2006 - 01:27 PM |
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yes,i had both eyes done in the LASIK clinic in shanghai.Could not read without my glasses,could not watch TV without glasses,even driving a car was impossible.Now 2 months later: read a newspaper without any problems and TV brilliant.Still have a little problem looking far,but all in all i am very happy i had this done at a fraction of the cost in europe.Good service before and after the surgery.PM me if you like to have more details. |
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horsemandk
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July 06, 2006 - 03:49 PM |
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A friend of mine had it done here in Shanghai and lost 25% of her vision and there's no guarantee.
A former colleague of mine in Europe also had his eyes done and it went even worse. Remember that your eyes change throughout your life, so something you change now might create larger problems in the future as you can't keep on having lazik ! |
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leonard
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July 06, 2006 - 06:44 PM |
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I had one eye done at Huashan Hospital about six years ago. The charged me double (because I'm white). I had to have the eye redone 2 years later in Bangkok because I was going blind. Don't trust the doctors here. |
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phrixus
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July 08, 2006 - 09:00 PM |
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has anyone tried that new aier eye hospital at hong qiao lu and song yuan lu? they've got ads everywhere and claim to have 3rd gen lasik technology but the stories in this thread make me scared to try that place |
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dreamscream
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July 09, 2006 - 03:44 PM |
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huashen hospital has two eye centers actually...one is great...the other one regularly **** people up...just make sure to go to the sino-american one (the one that is in a different building) and not the local one...those people are **** bags...
also please understand that lasik is still a relatively new method for vision correction and therefore is not without risks no matter where you get it done...it really depends on whether you think the risks are worth it...
i have info on lasik, as well as lasik in shanghai....PM me and we'll chat... |
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ChunLi
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July 16, 2006 - 02:20 PM |
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I refuse. I checked out 3 hospitals that claimed they did lasik in shanghai and I almost wanted to throw up each time.
I went back to Taiwan and got it done there because the US was a bit too far.
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chinablith
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joejoeyu
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Can I do the Lasik if I have presbyopic and short sight? |
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bougie
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Jan 04, 2007 - 09:53 PM |
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Seems the general advice is ... don't get it done in shangers. |
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denny007
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Jan 04, 2007 - 10:24 PM |
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| Seems the general advice is ... don't get it done in shangers. |
I've done it 2 years ago in Shanghai, no problem at all. They are using the newest equipment from USA, not much could've gone wrong... |
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Jan 06, 2007 - 12:22 PM |
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I would love to have it done, but i don't really like the idea of them "Cutting a flap". Can someone describe how this is done, and what you actually see. Do you see a scalpel coming down onto your eye? What is it? |
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denny007
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Jan 06, 2007 - 04:30 PM |
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You feel nothing because they use anesthetical drops. During the short "operation" you see like someone with a torchlight is lighting into your eye and moving with the light (because of the laser hence the "LASIK" word). You better do not watch video of what is/was done, never. I saw it some time after and whenever I remember that video I get tears into my eyes (physical tears, not emotional). After the anestheticum stops working you will feel for half a day like a trash felt into your eye. One day after the operation you will see much much more than before with the glasses. For example I couldn't see before even with newest glasses spots on the moon. I had no idea there are spots (aka "continents") on the moon... |
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