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sienna
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July 27, 2006 - 07:09 AM |
 
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I don't know if this is true, but I heard that most asian guys (chinese, taiwanese, cantonese HK) do prefer that their girldfriends are virgins...
I think this is crazy, but is it true? |
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sarahs
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July 27, 2006 - 07:40 AM |
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A Shanghainese boy told me that if the guy is still a virgin, he prefers the girl to be one too. |
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maries
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July 27, 2006 - 08:22 AM |
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Think so !It's true !but not all the chinses guys ! |
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Rio
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July 27, 2006 - 09:06 AM |
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No, it's hypocrite. Guys who say, I want to marry a virgin, but I need to fuuck around first are plain hypocrites. For me, I don't want someone who has slept with more than say 5 guys, I don't know. And no, I'm no hypocrite, I'm still a virgin myself... |
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scrag
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July 27, 2006 - 10:00 AM |
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i think most asin men like to be their gf or wife's 1st man
possess? |
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cakes
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July 27, 2006 - 10:42 AM |
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You think that's possible to make love with only one girl during your all life?
after 20 years of sex with only one partner you must become crazy and want to know something else don't you think? |
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Rio
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July 27, 2006 - 11:21 AM |
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If you want sex without love, yes then you'll become crazy. If you want to combine love and sex, then you had a lot of fun during the last 20 years. |
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HHH
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July 27, 2006 - 11:25 AM |
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yes, it's true. but my HHH is not a virgin 
HHH is not mine |
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WhiteCountess
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July 27, 2006 - 01:54 PM |
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Men the world over are impossible to please in this area. On the one hand, they would all dearly love to think that their lady was all theirs, had saved herself for him, and that he is the only man who has ever penetrated her. On the other hand, men also want their woman to be a sexual goddess, able to do all sorts of wonderful love-making. Unfortunately, the latter can only be learned through experience. So in a nuthsell, I reckon there's probably nothing unique about Chinese men wanting a flithy dirty virgin, reckon that's most guys. |
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nathanton
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July 27, 2006 - 06:28 PM |
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actually the issue of virgin has been rehashed between my mates. to be honest, I would be feel horrible during my first sex with gf if I found out she had been shagged by others. |
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WhiteCountess
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July 28, 2006 - 10:22 AM |
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| I would be feel horrible during my first sex with gf if I found out she had been shagged by others. |
That's not what the whore you slept with last week told me  |
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Crazylife
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July 28, 2006 - 10:52 AM |
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Chinese guys prefer virgin girls ..that is a kind of outdated opinion.but its also depends on the individuals. the open minded person of course have the really different idea with the traditional style ppl. |
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liji
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July 28, 2006 - 11:18 AM |
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Women's sexuality has been strictly regulated for a long time. In China, at least for 2500-3000 years (check the Li Ji/Li Ki). For the west, try Engel's The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State.
Monogamy and marriage have always started as one gender subjugating the other. |
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nathanton
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July 28, 2006 - 11:26 AM |
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Monogamy is rare in human beings, but is common among birds. |
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liji
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July 28, 2006 - 07:10 PM |
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And most women don't realize monogamy has always been their slavery. In every culture I can think of where men and women are equal (where patriarchy and feudalism never existed), monogamy doesn't happen. |
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Kiwi
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July 28, 2006 - 07:22 PM |
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F*ck da patriarchy!
And fuedalism.
And monogamy.
And virginity. |
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liji
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July 28, 2006 - 07:43 PM |
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Thank you very much.
I wish more women said that. It's catching on in feminism. We'll see about the masses.
Spread the love. |
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Bubbletea
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July 28, 2006 - 10:20 PM |
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Well have to say that I was saving myself for marriage having made the decision to do so when I was a child.
But then on one drunken night out in Shangers, I made a mistake and had sex. I was 21. And once I had done it once, I didnt stop there and went on to have sex with that man another couple of times just for "pleasure" and because I figured, I had already done it so why not?!
Now I am engaged to another man and my partner wishes to save our sex life for marriage, which is what we are doing. I wish I hadn't made the choice to have sex before and gave my virginity and my body to someone who really didn't deserve it. I am firmly in the camp of saving sex for marriage and maintaining monogamy.
From what I have seen, sex has been terribly distorted, especially in a city like Shanghai, and the beauty of it has been lost. At least if you wait, it is done in a safe context with both partners having already committed their lives to each other. And what is so dull about monogamy? It is a beautiful thing when you make the decision to join your side to anothers for the rest of your life and work bloody hard to keep it that way. And now that I am marrying a man who has integrity in every area of his life, it is easy to see that in Shanghai many men, and indeed women, have none when it comes to sex.
What I am saying may sound completely foreign and dull, but when sex is concerned, what is the desire for all the drama?! |
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liji
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July 28, 2006 - 10:24 PM |
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Everyone's view about monogamy is from an age where it's existed for 2000+ years. Looking thru history before then, you'll find monogamy was always men enslaving women. The love and beauty of monogamy was an idea invented afterwards when everyone forgot its beginning.
Have you read books like the Liji (Classic of Rites) Though enough study you'll learn the rise of chinese tradition was also the rise of the slavery of women. China used to be fairly matriarchal (mu3xi4shi4zu2zhi4 ?). When women were free 3000 years ago, monogamy was not practiced. Same with Europe.
In every society where men and women are equal, monogamy is not practiced.
When men and women are equal (3000+ years from now), monogamy will be rare. |
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Bubbletea
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July 28, 2006 - 10:30 PM |
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But that doesnt mean that we should reject monogamy because in the beginning it enslaved women and I dont believe it was designed to enslave women in the first place. It was how God meant for us to live. A so called free society where everyone is shagging everyone and there is never any attachments is more enslaving to both sexes than monogamy and is a flase freedom because it is based solely on a moments fleeting pleasure. All the good things in life are largely emotional-falling in love, finding that soulmate, getting married, having kids, grandkids- and if monogamy didnt exist, these things would not happen and we would all be miserable chasing partners and orgasms. God help our children!
I hate to say this BUT I have never met a happy feminist. |
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liji
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July 28, 2006 - 10:36 PM |
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But that doesnt mean that we should reject monogamy because in the beginning it enslaved women and I dont believe it was designed to enslave women in the first place. It was how God meant for us to live.
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 You probably don't know much about religions that existed 3000 years ago. Even Taoism (the books) have kept some of our matriarchal past.
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A so called free society where everyone is shagging everyone and there is never any attachments is more enslaving to both sexes than monogamy and is a flase freedom because it is based solely on a moments fleeting pleasure. All the good things in life are largely emotional-falling in love, finding that soulmate, getting married, having kids, grandkids ...
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Not really. People in gender equal society see the world in an entirely different way. It's not possible to understand thru the eyes of someone who's living in our age with our ethics and morality. Only lots of study will open your eyes.
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- and if monogamy didnt exist, these things would not happen and we would all be miserable chasing partners and orgasms. God help our children!
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In equal societies, sex is viewed so much differently than with us. People are not miserable chasing partners. As for helping children and people caring about family, other people and the community, it's far better. People are more open and caring because relationships between men and women aren't so strictly regulated.
I'd suggest reading chapter 12 of the Liji (Nei4ze2). It's a start. You'll then see at least some of the strict regulation of children that's lead to our world of isolation.
I'd also suggest Marcel Granet's Chinese Civilization. It's available in English. I think Granet only has one book translated into Chinese (about ancient festival and songs I think). Stephen Karcher, a Jungian psychoanalysis) who helped make a new translation of the I Ching also called Granet's La pens??e chinoise possibly the best single book on Chinese thought written in the 20th century.
And as for understanding Christianty or any form of monotheism, I highly suggest Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morals.
It is not possible to understand a different culture without spending a lot of time studying it. It's also not possible to understand your own culture without spending a lot of time studying it. |
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Bubbletea
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July 28, 2006 - 10:57 PM |
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I dont think I need to study taoism to develop an opinion. I graduated from Bible college so naturally my view is very much weighted by my Christian ethics and I still believe that if we lived now as it was intended in the beginning, we wouldnt be in such a mess. |
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liji
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July 28, 2006 - 11:14 PM |
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That's cool. Then might I recommend some more reading in Christianity? It's unfortunate many people consider Aquinas the end all in Christian philosophy.
The origins of Christianity (and Judaism) are also interesting. There are some amazing recent Jewish Philosophers. |
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Kiwi
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July 29, 2006 - 12:42 AM |
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Thank you very much.
I wish more women said that. It's catching on in feminism. We'll see about the masses.
Spread the love. |
Anti-patriarchial ideas are catching on in feminism? Well well well. . . Feminism has come a long way since I was a lad. |
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liji
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July 29, 2006 - 12:45 AM |
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Feminists and women against monogamy is catching on. More of them realize that marriage and the nuclear family are what they were when they were invented??a form of slavery.
It's not catching on as fast as I would like. |
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