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Post  Posted: Feb 13, 2007 - 03:18 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top
Post subject: ATM exchange rates

Which banks atm has the best exhange rate for withdrawing money?
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Post  Posted: Feb 13, 2007 - 09:00 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Assuming that you are asking about foreign bank accounts (foreign currency against RMB). For Canadian Dollars, I find Citibank has a better rate than HSBC when withdrawing from ATM in China.
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Post  Posted: Feb 13, 2007 - 09:10 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

US Dollar but I guess close enough.
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Post  Posted: Feb 13, 2007 - 09:23 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

I can tell you I haven't noticed a difference, all of the banks are raping me! I believe I get around 7.52 at HSBC for my US Dollar.
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Post  Posted: Feb 13, 2007 - 09:27 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

If your US account is at Bank of America, withdrawing from China Construction Bank ATMs is wise.

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Post  Posted: Feb 13, 2007 - 10:44 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Wow 7.52 that's crazy, go somewhere else. I just ended up going to a nearby Bank of China ATM and checked my balance and they were giving it to me for 7.7399.
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Post  Posted: Feb 13, 2007 - 11:11 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

I think my Bank in the states is screwing me, I must be honest I wasn't paying much attention but was startled when I looked. I use USBank, I am not sure if particular banks have different arrangements. I have used HSBC, BOC and Commercial and all very similar, I think it is my Bank's problem.

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Post  Posted: Feb 13, 2007 - 11:49 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

When you look at the exchange rate you need to take into account the forex fees imposed by the various networks such as Visa, MasterCard and AmEx. The vast majority of withdrawls in foreign currency is subject to a 1.5% forex fee and usually an additional 1.5% surcharge added by your bank.

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Post  Posted: Feb 14, 2007 - 02:05 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

I am using Washington Mutual "Free Checking" account which gives you free withdrawals overseas (still 1% charged by china atm) and free overseas wire transfers.

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Post  Posted: Feb 14, 2007 - 07:54 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

It's definitely worth comparing a few banks - especially if you are relying on ATMs for your day to day expenses. We have 2 accounts in the US and had used our Bank One account for the last 2 years. Now it's a Chase account and the exchange rate has gotten worse and only one free ATM a month. I compared in Dec and Chase was giving us 7.58 rmb/usd while Bank of America was giving 7.81 rmb/usd. BoA has no fees if you use China Construction atms.
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Post  Posted: Feb 14, 2007 - 09:49 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

For long term residents why not open a local bank account and wire your monthly expenses to that account???

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Post  Posted: Feb 18, 2007 - 07:30 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

i use BoC with a wellsfargo ATM card (not the VISA or MC debit/ATM card they also try to pass on you) and the rate is always just about the interbank rate. if you have an VISA/MC debit card, it's hard to say what network you're using when you draw on it-- with an ATM only card, there's no questions.

does anyone know if the CBC atms are on the PLUS or Cirrus network? i think i've tried using them w/o success.

forex in the US is the real ripoff. i had some HKD that i needed to transfer into USD. hsbc here wanted around 3.5% for it (about the same as every other bank)-- and it's their paper. in china, i think the rates i was getting for forex at banks were 0.75%. and o/c the atm fees that you get hit with are usually from your own bank though i've got an acct with WF that does not charge for using other atms.
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Post  Posted: Feb 18, 2007 - 10:06 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

CBC? Unless the ATMs specifically have a Plus/Cirrus logo on them, you can expect that they aren't part of any network except their own and China Union Pay.
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Post  Posted: Feb 18, 2007 - 11:04 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

sorry-- meant CCB. is CCB on plus/cirrus or is BofA's access through some other network?
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Post  Posted: Feb 25, 2007 - 01:47 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Can anybody give me advice on how to manage following (future situation):

1. Expenses in Germany in EUR / Therefore I need to transfer monthly
2. Salary paid in EUR or HKD to .. well I don't know how my company will handle it, and I guess they don't know yet as well, so still chance to suggest.
3. Having at present bank account in HK w/ credit card and bank account in Germany w/o credit card.

How is the best way to limit currency exchange losses? Thanks a lot
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