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jo_girl
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June 26, 2007 - 09:14 AM |
 
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Really have a think before u settle down in Century Park. Sure, it is a nice and fairly clean and quiet area, close to Carrefour and quite convenient.. But it is also very far from things! I lived there for 6 months, and enjoyed it OK, but in the end I was so fed up with catching the metro and doing that annoying change at (always crowded) people square, as well as having to pay an expensive taxi ride every time I missed the last metro home.
I find Puxi to be more enjoyable in terms of things going on, and living at Century park proved to be annoying a lot of times when someone called and asked if I wanted to grab a quick bite somewhere (like in the french concession), and I knew it would take me maybe 45 min to get there, and then 45 min home.... I moved after 6 months and now live in the french concession, which I like so much better! I don't find the FC noisy or overwhelming. Pollution is everywhere, and I can still go and visit Pudong when I have an errand there. But overall I find life on the west side more convenient. |
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msittig
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June 26, 2007 - 11:12 AM |
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redsneef, we're living in Pudong while our daughter is small because of the location of my school, but we're definitely moving back to Puxi for exactly the reason you mention: there's so much "flavor" you lose by living in steril, remote Pudong. I expect that in a couple years I'll be writing pretty much what jo_girl wrote above. |
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still_here
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Joined: May 29, 2007
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Location: Century Park Area
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June 26, 2007 - 11:26 AM |
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Ditto. Puxi offers u more of "realistic" Shanghai than Pudong could ever hope to achieve.
My take on this is just this: I am in Pudong right now (Century Park) and it just feels like another concrete jungle. Can't wait 2 shift 2 Puxi (although my office is in Pudong). If u r a people person and love 2 live in a place like the locals-its Puxi els Pudong.
Anyways, with the amount of smoking i indulge in, pollution in Puxi would seem like a natural draft of fresh air  |
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amig
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June 26, 2007 - 01:30 PM |
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If you have schooling kids, the suburb areas of Qingpu is the best place to stay in Puxi. Now that the A5 highway has opened, Hong Qiao-Gubei-Hong Mei Lu area is 10 mins away. |
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btbt
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June 26, 2007 - 02:04 PM |
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been here few years now and I still prefer to stay at Pudong. It just suit my own lifestyle, can ride bike easily and go to Jin qiao, Thumb plaza. If need to party will be in Puxi...... Now Superbrand mall have a few place cam grab a drink too like blue frog etc....... |
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bright_tone
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June 26, 2007 - 03:02 PM |
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Just signed for a year in Century park area first. Can always move again after a while. Need to get to know more about the city. For the moment seems like will be base in Zhangjiang and only once or twice a week be in Puxi Jing An.
Thanks for all your answers...... This is very good place to source info about living in Shanghai...... |
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jmg06shanghai
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Joined: Feb 18, 2006
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Location: ...in a van down by the river...
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June 27, 2007 - 01:43 PM |
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Hypothetical scenario:
Single straight male; early 40s; likely relocating from a major northeast US city; currently would not live in the 'burbs in the States; office will be on Dongfang Road in Pudong (or in Singapore?); won't party as I would have 10-15 years ago, but will definitely look for a variety of restaurants (quality and multi-ethnic diversity, not including Pizza Hut) and likely have a few drinks a night or so a week (clients or friends); still I work hard and will appreciate getting a decent night's sleep weeknights...love my nieces and nephews yet wouldn't love it if they (or especially someone else's kids) woke me early on weekend morning...
To Pudong, or to Puxi? Why?
Alternatively, to Shanghai, or to Singapore?
Thanks for any insightful thoughts. |
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horsemandk
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June 28, 2007 - 08:33 AM |
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I live in Pudong, right next to Century park (10 min walk to the metro station) and we have a 160 sqm apartment paying 6.500,- RMB. The apartment is 2 years old and in a very nice compound called Xiang Mei Garden, lots of green area for the kids to play around inside the compound. Metro, Carrefour, foreign restaurants etc. are located within 20,- RMB taxi ride. |
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p1atl10
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June 28, 2007 - 11:20 AM |
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I have lived in both Singapore and Shanghai.
Singapore....
- Think Disneyworld. Shopping Land. Amusement Land. Industry Land.
Safe, clean, quiet, controlled. (I got a ticket for not having a license for mr car radio)
Good food, excellent infrastructure, english speaking taxi's
Shanghai
- Think food fight in the elementary school lunchroom
Noise, pollution, mayhem, little process...
Still good food, nightlife.
I lived in Singapore for three years. Shanghai (Puxi) now for a little over two.
Depends on your temperment. If you want to live in Disneyworld, live in Singapore. If you want to live in Asia, live in Shanghai.
Me? Hands down...Shanghai. Hands down...Puxi. |
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yingying236
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June 28, 2007 - 04:45 PM |
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i have an apartment in Puxi and a room in Pudong... pudong Zhangjiang actually as thats where i study and that place makes me want to commit suicide.. there is **** all to do... i come into puxi as much as possible. However im really young, no family here, and want to go out as much as possible. |
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CanadaKen21
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June 30, 2007 - 12:20 AM |
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Hey Cubfan, big question, with kids that age is do you have a driver? If so you can live anywhere! If not, travelling with kids that age in a cab can at times resemble a pinball machine. Keep it convenient where every you decide! Get working on a good Ayi also as with kids that age I think your wife is going to love the conveniences and lifestyle that Shanghai has to offer. Go Braves, this Buds for u!!!! |
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Animeisco
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June 30, 2007 - 04:38 AM |
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Apparently, Hongqiao is a good place to raise kids... |
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cubfan
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July 02, 2007 - 11:51 PM |
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CanadaKen, we don't expect we'll have a car. Would that be a problem in Lujiazui (given that we're going to minimize the times we have our kids bouncing around the back of a cab)? |
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CanadaKen21
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July 03, 2007 - 04:30 AM |
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Just for appointments or anytime you are taking kids anywhere as yours are quite small, it could be a problem. Not for your kids acting up, but rather the haphazard approach many taxi drivers have here. My youngest has "only" smacked his head off of the partion once and have had to tell drivers more than once to cool it!! I have talked with other couples that because of concerns in transporting "small/infant" children and lack of seatbelts in taxis, that their employers "HAVE" made concessions in providing a vehicle on a part-time basis in these cases.
If you are able to find a good Ayi so everyday tasks like shopping, groceries can be deligated to her or if Ayi can watch the two kids while your spouse handles without kids in tow would be much easier.
I take it you have reviewed a number of the what to bring threads and know to bring lots of OTC medications that the young ones would need while you are in Shanghai, those things are very hard to locate, and having a small box in your closet will have your mind at ease and promise you will come in handy at somepoint!! |
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Michael
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Sep 21, 2007 - 05:48 PM |
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Ongoing questions.. food options improved in PuDong Recently? |
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jeannie5
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Sep 21, 2007 - 06:09 PM |
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definitely pudong==lu jiazhui by the river...u have best of both worlds..quietness and near to work yet near to puxi for wild nightlife and gorgeous food!try the cheapest way to & fro...the ferry |
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aquimini
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Sep 22, 2007 - 12:22 AM |
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Jinqiao which is in Pudong is like a paradise. I've been to both worlds. Puxi and Pudong. My advice is move to Puxi first. Eventually you are gonna party out, get tired of the noise and enless crowds, super long bank lines and then long for Pudong. It happens to eveyone. You can easily get to parties and events with 100 Yuan round trip from here.
Jinqiao is just fabulous. Clean air and TREES, GRASS and the people in Jinqiao seem nicer. No one is arguing or fighting. During the day you have all the markets to yourself. The "Flying Fox" with out dirtiness of Puxi. I'm pretty sure that Jinqiao is the future. Also its an expat community so most people speak english if you ever just get tired of speaking Chinese. |
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CoffeeHawk_0
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| Ongoing questions.. food options improved in PuDong Recently? |
Super Brand Mall has added a Blue Frog and a Hooters in the last year.
Early next year when the new Shanghai Financial building opens, there should be a few more upscale restaurants to choose from, there is also a new HOng KOng Plaze being built next to it (between it and Super Brand Mall), so food choices and congestion should climb dramatically.
2 blocks behind BaBaiBan is a new food Mall, 5 floors of mostly Asian cuisine, and a cigar/wine bar. The Korean restaurant on the top floor is nice.
Bad news for Puxi: I saw yesterday that Papa Schnitzel has closed down. It was 2~3 blocks behind PLaza66, with nice garden seating. |
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CoffeeHawk_0
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Sep 22, 2007 - 09:03 AM |
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I am thinking about relocating to Puxi this month after 2 years of Pudong river life. |
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prcshcom
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Sep 22, 2007 - 11:06 AM |
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| Apparently, Hongqiao is a good place to raise kids... |
Every time I go to Gubei/Hongqiao area, I can't concentrate or enjoy the surroundings becuase of the air pollution. I can literally taste petro in my mouth. Just awful. Overhead bridges, traffic congestions, and construction sites, Puxi isn't my cup of tea, and I realized choosing Pudong over Puxi was a right decision. Work in Jingan and party couple times a week in Puxi, but feels so right/relax at home. Live near Thumb Plaza and no kids now. But even if we have kids, we'll move to Jinqiao. |
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CoffeeHawk_0
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Sep 22, 2007 - 12:31 PM |
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^you're giving me 2nd thoughs about Puxi   , thanks for your input on my other thread. |
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DesertSpider
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Joined: Jan 19, 2007
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Nov 25, 2007 - 02:17 PM |
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WOW..... and 5 mins from my place in Jinqiao I have:
2 supermarkets (Carrefour and Pines)
Endless chinese restaurants
The Flying Fox (fab)
5 or 6 massage places (clean)
Post Office and Banks
Specialised Bike Store
Decathlon
Megafit Sports Centre
Shopping Centre with small shops
Bars (with no bar girls pestering us), restaurants (Italian, Japanese, Tapas etc, Pizza Hut (although who goes there!)), coffee shops
Century Park (10 mins)
A line of local shops selling fruit and veg, DVD, pet store etc.
AND safer roads for cycling and walking, cleaner air etc... and I can still get to Puxi cheaply when I want to.
Will never live in Puxi especially having small children - its dirty, polluted, congested and unsafe.. why would I want to do that to them. |
You make a strong argument... |
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Ottomatic
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Nov 25, 2007 - 03:05 PM |
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Herro!
similar situation here-company is moving me from Beijing to Shanghai. Office is in Pudong near Zhongrong Plaza for what that's worth.
I have no idea about commute times or geography in SHA. I have a limited time to poke around the area before I get a place. Puxi? Pudong? absolutely no idea
Single, mid 30's-right now I live in the CBD area in Beijing-would like a comparable atmosphere-any suggestions? |
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DesertSpider
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I've lived in Pudong (Ba Bai Ban area & Century Park) for the last 14 months... looking at the Puxi side with great interest, but with big reservations as well. I like the clean air over here and the 'smaller' crowds.
Really looking at the move in terms of what do I stand to benefit by moving to Puxi that I currently lack....
And, what do I stand to sacrifice (trade off) for the conveniences.
Hmmmmmmm and the debate rages on. |
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Swiss-James
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Puxi is a lot less dirty and crowded when you live here and know where you're going (and how to get there).
If you're going to live in Shanghai, then live in Shanghai- not some suburb with a tourist geegaw and a shopping mall full of chain restaurants. |
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