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andyfff
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July 16, 2007 - 10:32 AM |
 
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I get my weather info from two places - the Weather Underground site that links to this web site (see the two little rainbow-cloud icons in the upper right hand corner of the screen?) and the Shanghai Daily web site. On Saturday the Weather Underground site said 100% chance of rain for Sunday, so of course it did not rain. Maybe it rained somewhere in Shanghai yesterday, but it was partly cloudy all day where I live. The forecast for tomorrow is 30% chance of rain, but the Shanghai Daily site says 80% chance.
Anybody know why the forecast is wrong so often? I am not blaming China or anything Chinese for this, I know these models are usually computer generated. Is there some meteorological reason it is so difficult to get an accurate forecast for this particular spot on the globe?
(as a side note, where I lived in Texas had three, yes THREE 24 hour weather channels, showing doppler radar info for the state, the country, etc. That was a bit too much weather info I admit, but at least you could tell if your plans for a picnic were going to happen or not!) |
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Magnolia
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July 16, 2007 - 10:34 AM |
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i am a closet weather junkie... can watch the weather channel for hours on end...
forcasting in shanghai always struck me as a bit off... eventually, i stopped listening, reading, or surfing for it... just not worth it in the end. |
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winopete
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July 16, 2007 - 10:52 AM |
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Tell me one place in the world where there IS accurate weather forecasting! |
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Magnolia
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July 16, 2007 - 10:57 AM |
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san diego, california. |
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Andreas
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July 16, 2007 - 11:58 AM |
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Actually the weather forecasts in China are quite accurate. Ok, there is the occasional miss, but all in all they are quite reliable. |
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Andreas
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July 16, 2007 - 12:00 PM |
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| Tell me one place in the world where there IS accurate weather forecasting! |
Hawaii. 95% of the time the forecast reads like this.
'Northerly trade winds 10 - 15 knots, showers windward and mauka (up-mountain).  And that's what you get. Every day. |
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Lordlunchalot
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July 16, 2007 - 01:04 PM |
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Melbourne
Clear sky, rain, sun, hail, strong wind, cool breeze - covers most days |
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elenaelena
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July 16, 2007 - 01:17 PM |
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coz of climat i think and that coz very close to sea! |
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Andreas
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July 16, 2007 - 01:29 PM |
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Melbourne
Clear sky, rain, sun, hail, strong wind, cool breeze - covers most days |
Oh yeah, all four seasons in one afternoon. That looks familiar |
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yu888
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yu888
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July 16, 2007 - 01:31 PM |
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Singapore- Today's weather sunny in the morning with temperatures between 27-33, and increasing clouds in the afternoon with chance of showers on part os the island.
That probably covers 300 days a year. |
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Lordlunchalot
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Gotta luv uncle chop chop |
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styleSH
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yu888
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winopete
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July 16, 2007 - 05:07 PM |
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@Lord Lunchalot, don't come the raw prawn with me, I'm a Melbourne lad too, and seriously, Melbourne weather forecasts suck bunyip tits. |
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shanghaiceltic
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July 16, 2007 - 07:18 PM |
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Hi Pete, nice to see you back.....
Shanghai forecasts are more accurate than Brit ones.... |
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Andreas
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July 16, 2007 - 11:14 PM |
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Hi Pete, nice to see you back.....
Shanghai forecasts are more accurate than Brit ones.... |
That's right. Which also explains why the Romans didn't stay that long. |
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MichaelC
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On a interesting note....
There is a rumor that in ChongQing, the official weather forecasts on TV never exceeds 40C even when it is obviously over 40C. When it is over 40C there is a law that says something like employees are to have the day off or have a shorter work day...something like that. |
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GC
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July 17, 2007 - 05:25 AM |
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| coz of climat i think and that coz very close to sea! |
huh? |
probably fairly accurate. you could leave puxi in totally dry weather and get the dapu lu tunnel to pudong where it was pouring with rain. sea then reclaimed land, then river, then land again combined with polution in the air makes for difficult forecasting. |
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Andreas
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July 17, 2007 - 07:53 AM |
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| MichaelC wrote: |
On a interesting note....
There is a rumor that in ChongQing, the official weather forecasts on TV never exceeds 40C even when it is obviously over 40C. When it is over 40C there is a law that says something like employees are to have the day off or have a shorter work day...something like that. |
That's not a rumour, and it's not only in ChongQing, but in all major cities. First place I noticed it, and where it was explained to me was Beijing in the mid '90s. |
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DragonAss
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July 17, 2007 - 08:24 AM |
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Better to poke your head out of window and do your own forecast while in SH. In Melb, there's always umbrella, jacket and light jumper in the car to cover need for the day.
Agreed to Ed, only Spore has pretty much the same weather everyday all the time |
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8lrr8
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July 17, 2007 - 10:02 AM |
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| Andreas wrote: |
| Actually the weather forecasts in China are quite accurate. Ok, there is the occasional miss, but all in all they are quite reliable. |
depends on what's your source. which is? |
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Andreas
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July 17, 2007 - 10:18 AM |
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The ones they have on CCTV actually. They are better than most web based ones I have seen. |
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Lordlunchalot
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July 17, 2007 - 10:37 AM |
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| @Lord Lunchalot, don't come the raw prawn with me, I'm a Melbourne lad too, and seriously, Melbourne weather forecasts suck bunyip tits. |
Poiter,
maaaate,
With Melbourne's weather they are bound to get one part of the day correct. |
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