| Author |
Message |
LeiFeng
Raver
Joined: Oct 17, 2002
Posts: 440
Location: Shanghai
Status: Offline
|
 Posted:
Jan 29, 2004 - 06:39 PM |
 
|
| Post subject: Wifi Hotspots in Shanghai |
Driving from Xujiahui to Hongkou I happened to have my laptop open and was passing the time looking for unsecured wireless networks.... I found so many I couldn't even believe myself (the award for that trip goes to the network "sashas", presumably belonging to the establishment of that time, which is accessible all along Henghshan).
Are there any systematic surveys of "open" WLANs in Shangahai available? If not, would anybody would like to construct them? (Imagine the fun... open air... a bracing breeze... a growing crowd of gaping yocals trying to see what some crazy foreigner is doing with his laptop). Could it be there is a Chinese site I have never seen?
Finally, has anyone ever used the networks with the SSID CMCC (assume this means China Mobile Communications Corp)? Are these the WLAN networks that are paired with the GPRS network (in their literature) and can billed to your mobile bill at 0.2 RMB/minute? |
_________________
Principal, XLNTE. Experience Excellence.
ben@xlnte.com.
|
|
 
  |
|
ghatzhat
Seeker
Joined: Mar 05, 2003
Posts: 55
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Jan 29, 2004 - 11:35 PM |
|
|
i hadn't even thought to check - i can see two networks from my desk at home - one of them unsecured. however, the signal strength is so low that i can't get online. it connects, but i can't ping anything.
while the idea of hacking round shanghai with a laptop appeals (like a kind of ubergeeky hash house harriers) i think i'll pass. but, you never know, if i find myself with my laptop in a park on a nice spring day... |
|
|
|
|
|
urgentculture
Rocker
Joined: Aug 19, 2003
Posts: 762
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Jan 30, 2004 - 08:56 AM |
|
|
|
|
|
G00r
Lurker
Joined: Jan 02, 2004
Posts: 25
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Jan 30, 2004 - 04:15 PM |
|
|
|
|
|
|
LeiFeng
Raver
Joined: Oct 17, 2002
Posts: 440
Location: Shanghai
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Jan 30, 2004 - 04:41 PM |
|
|
Sadly wuxianredian is just an extended commercial for dbInteractive, and nodedb is lacking a single entry for the most populous country in the world.... but keep the links coming. I'm sure some Chinese hackers have put a list together SOMEWHERE... |
_________________
Principal, XLNTE. Experience Excellence.
ben@xlnte.com.
|
|
|
|
|
88StoriesOfMadness
Newbie
Joined: Jan 30, 2004
Posts: 1
Status: Offline
|
 Posted:
Jan 30, 2004 - 06:36 PM |
|
|
From the ashes of Wuxian Redian comes China Pulse: http://www.chinapulse.com/wifi/ . Probably could be done a lot better though. JiWire (http://www.jiwire.com/) is probably the best global directory I have come across, but it is a little light on China. They do have an interesting Intel-sponsored app for Macromedia Central, though. |
|
|
|
|
|
LeiFeng
Raver
Joined: Oct 17, 2002
Posts: 440
Location: Shanghai
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Jan 30, 2004 - 10:11 PM |
|
|
Hey, again, thanks the links... China Pulse shows promise, especially with 100+ hotspots in Shanghai listed.. they just need to work on presentation of the site and they are on the something (although does the world really need Yet Another China Expat Website?). As you say, JiWire is slicker, but only lists 37 hotspots for China, and most of those are at 4*/5* hotels or Expat complexes. Great recommendations, though. |
_________________
Principal, XLNTE. Experience Excellence.
ben@xlnte.com.
|
|
|
|
|
smurfette
PopStar
Joined: Nov 07, 2003
Posts: 1287
Location: smurf village
|
| Posted:
Feb 01, 2004 - 12:00 AM |
|
|
How about searching by providers ? Currently there are
China Telecom ( Shanghai Telecom http://www.51wireless.com/ ) ,
China Netcom ( http://www.mobileoffice.com.cn/area/index.htm#shanghai ) , mainly in hotels ,
China Mobile ( [urlhttp://www.monternet.com/moneditor/cs/internet/ex/wlan/#8[/url] ) , and yes CMCC = China Mobile Communication Corp , and the hotspot list is in the form of downloadable excel covering all WLAN hotspots in all provinces within China , o , and above is only spots of accessing via WLAN , CMCC also have access via GPRS network ,
China Unicom ( http://cdma.cnuninet.com/unicom/umax/unet ) , in the FAQ section , they only mention the C-network is still under further construction , which indicates not widely used ?
maybe you are using the service by China Mobile ? |
|
|
|
|
|
LeiFeng
Raver
Joined: Oct 17, 2002
Posts: 440
Location: Shanghai
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Feb 01, 2004 - 01:46 AM |
|
|
Yeah, LeiFeng has China Telecom's GPRS service (using it now) and has signed up for the CMCC hotspots but has yet to find one... once I get some GPS hardware, I will run net stumbler and produce a more practical listing. |
_________________
Principal, XLNTE. Experience Excellence.
ben@xlnte.com.
|
|
|
|
|
jenming
FooJay
Joined: Dec 20, 2002
Posts: 1675
Location: Right where you wanna be
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Feb 01, 2004 - 10:54 AM |
|
|
What's net stumbler (sorry to ask a side-track question)
jenming |
|
|
|
|
|
LeiFeng
Raver
Joined: Oct 17, 2002
Posts: 440
Location: Shanghai
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Feb 01, 2004 - 12:45 PM |
|
|
Net stumbler is a neat piece of software that works together with a WiFi card and, optionally, a GPS system to locate WiFi networks. It listens for the AP beacons and records times, signal strengthes and, with GPS hardware, physical locations. Unfortunately it's also very buggy on my Centrino system. |
_________________
Principal, XLNTE. Experience Excellence.
ben@xlnte.com.
|
|
|
|
|
pwhpoon
Newbie
Joined: Jan 31, 2004
Posts: 9
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Feb 01, 2004 - 04:52 PM |
|
|
any free WIFI spot in Shanghai? |
|
|
|
|
|
LeiFeng
Raver
Joined: Oct 17, 2002
Posts: 440
Location: Shanghai
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Feb 01, 2004 - 06:12 PM |
|
|
Yeah, there are some.... not sure if they are intentionally free or not. For example, on hengshan road, try SSID "sashas"  Smurfette also mentioned that there is supposed to be free WiFi access in the Jiaoda Library. You might also try looking in some of the above sites... |
_________________
Principal, XLNTE. Experience Excellence.
ben@xlnte.com.
|
|
|
|
|
smurfette
PopStar
Joined: Nov 07, 2003
Posts: 1287
Location: smurf village
|
| Posted:
Feb 02, 2004 - 11:37 AM |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Bluebag
LoopKicker
Joined: Sep 11, 2003
Posts: 879
Location: Shanghai
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Mar 15, 2004 - 04:05 PM |
|
|
Anyone have any tips on how to get Tianyitong access happening? aside from learning Mandarin and fronting the China Telecom office?
I got my building management to arrange what was supposed to be Tianyitong for me about a month ago, and all that happened was that some C/T techs installed my ADSL and then told me (through a building staffer) that the wireless bit would take another 10 days.
OK, so after a bit of whinging, they came back with a wireless AP/Router a week later.
I hoped that the initial username/password I got with the ADSL would work for wireless access when I was out and about.
No such luck. Tried at both McDonalds and Starbucks to get access, but both times no deal. The McD one wouldn't really enter properly, and the Starbucks login came up "bad user ID/password".
Any suggestions would be gratefully received.
BTW, I'm trying to connect with a Palm-based device, but I think it's more a username/password problem. The machine has connected fine elsewhere here.
Regards,
Bluebag |
|
|
|
|
|
xingd
Squeeker
Joined: Jan 18, 2004
Posts: 16
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Apr 01, 2004 - 02:26 PM |
|
|
there is a Kensington's wifi detector ,useful to find unsecure wifi spot easily, cost 280RMB, it's available on www.scitrixcn.com, and you can use wifi free at the shop near Xujiahui. |
|
|
|
|
|
r8dhex
Lurker
Joined: Feb 28, 2004
Posts: 29
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Sep 01, 2004 - 08:04 PM |
|
|
How do I actually use the CTC hotspots (they're everywhere)? I'm assuming it's not free. Do I need to sign-up somewhere? Or are there prepaid cards I can buy? |
|
|
|
|
|
Bluebag
LoopKicker
Joined: Sep 11, 2003
Posts: 879
Location: Shanghai
Status: Offline
|
| Posted:
Sep 02, 2004 - 03:30 PM |
|
|
Yes, there are. You can get them from the office on Yan An Lu (that's where I got mine). Mind you, it worked at first, but doesn't log in anymore.
Also, if you have Tianyitong at home, you can use your home ADSL U/N & P/W at hotspots, but you need to add a suffix to the U/N of "@shtel.tyt", if I recall. This also no longer works for me.
One of my many difficulties with using public hotspots is that my palm-based device doesn't do Chinese characters in the browser, so therefore delivers gibberish characters in the log-in screens. Sigh.
It may also be that they've changed the log-in process/added some more javascript or some such.
YMMV,
Bluebag |
|
|
|
|
|
frenchlover1999
Shanghai Royalty
Joined: Sep 18, 2004
Posts: 8730
|
| Posted:
Oct 05, 2004 - 08:55 PM |
|
|
I tried wifi for the first time yesterday in Xujiahui Metro City Starbucks and found out it was not free. The cost of 0.2 RMB/minute seems very high. Basically I would stay connected for hours. I have used GPRS in the past, which also turns out to be extremely expensive when browsing (for text only emails it is ok...). I wonder how to access "free" wifi, as quoted below:
| xingd wrote: |
| there is a Kensington's wifi detector ,useful to find unsecure wifi spot easily, cost 280RMB, it's available on www.scitrixcn.com, and you can use wifi free at the shop near Xujiahui. |
I know the computer shops there have access to a wifi with a password. Which means it is not really free, ie you must know the password (key). Also what means "unsecure" wifi spot? Can be cracked or something? Any idea? |
|
|
|
|
|
frenchlover1999
Shanghai Royalty
Joined: Sep 18, 2004
Posts: 8730
|
| Posted:
Oct 29, 2004 - 08:23 PM |
|
|
An update. I actually found some free wireless networks available in Starbucks there, but they seem to be very unstable with very low signal. Only the two paying networks CTC and CMMC are very stable. BHJ seems there form time to time, and was giving me access to the net a few weeks back, but not anymore. Today I found 00740C61C20 but it is mostly off or very low/low. Only when low (during total maybe 10 minutes today afternoon) I could browse the net for free. There is also a network 00D0B065DA_G with requires a key, I guess it belongs to one of the computers shops but maybe a bit too far, it is usually not visible or very low/low. Any idea about those networks? |
_________________
That was no shark. That was my personal submarine. But enough of this polite conversation. What is the purpose of your visit? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forum FAQ
Search
Preferences
Watched Topics
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
