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hkcalvin
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we are gay couple. my partner is working in shanghai and i am not working. and how can i obtain or apply resident permit in china?
can anyone help?
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many thanks! |
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fortune_nookie
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Um yea, let me know how that works out for ya, I am a very rich person married to a local, retired here and have yet to get a resident permit after more than 5 years.. |
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me_myself_&_i
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Nov 21, 2007 - 02:45 PM |
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for a resident permit - from what my wife told me"
before it used to be 5 years of living in china then you could get the resident permit.
now last time she went to check with the police office in her town, where we got married, they told her (that was in august this year)
it takes 5 years in china and also 5 years of marriage with a local girl or local guy depends if you are guy or girl of course.
they told my wife, i will get the resident permit next year because then we will be married 5 years. in september
the thing is that things change so fast here that by the time i qualify they may push it to 10 years ahhaahahahah
anyway if someone get fresher news i also would be interrested about it |
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chingiskhan
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Nov 21, 2007 - 03:03 PM |
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| hkcalvin wrote: |
we are gay couple. my partner is working in shanghai and i am not working. and how can i obtain or apply resident permit in china?
can anyone help?
many thanks! |
You could try getting a job. The company will then sort out the permit for you. |
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Rachelfriend
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No offence just curious. Why you guys love each other to instead of loving a woman? hmmm....maybe I am out of fashion. Do you guys have the gay/lesbian community? Whether most of your friends are gays I mean the friend cycle. Is there any gay/lesbian pubs in Shanghai? |
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Karu
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Nov 21, 2007 - 04:44 PM |
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Rachelfriend are you yourself a member of any club? By the way is Natalie25 also joining this club?
Your picture scares me. |
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juliaguulia
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Nov 21, 2007 - 04:49 PM |
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You could always go to Hong Kong every six months and just get a new visa there without a job - a lot of my mates in guangzhou do that... unless you are american and then you will have to go every 30 days. Just a thought... |
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CoffeeHawk_0
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there's a difference between a visa, a residence permit and a resident card, fyi.
-the permit is worked based.
-there's lots of types of visas.
-resident cards or permanent residency is only done on a case by case basis and usually involves making a major committment to China (you're a CEO, you've invested $10M USD in Wuxi, etc.) |
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Batavia
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Nov 21, 2007 - 05:38 PM |
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Exactly, my question is what is the difference between resident permit and work permit? |
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CoffeeHawk_0
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residence permit lets you live here for one or 2 years at a time, maybe 5 if you're CEO, but it is given out after you have a work permit. Once you can prove you have a stable job in a stable company, and other rules, then they are letting you out of the constant visa renewal process, since most visas now are for 30-60-90 days and not 1 or 2 years.
if you google the subject, you can find the cn.gov websites, your embassy's website, etc., and learn a lot. you should get in the habit of doing this because the laws and policies change constantly. They were significantly updated this year, but not everyone's opinions are. The data I gave you is correct however, for now. |
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gw4khq
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Nov 21, 2007 - 06:08 PM |
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I have a resident permit because my wife has a work permit. I'm retired but I didn't get a permit until the authorities saw a marriage certificate.
looks like gay couples will have a problem. Maybe both should get jobs. |
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hkcalvin
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Nov 21, 2007 - 06:28 PM |
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| No offence just curious. Why you guys love each other to instead of loving a woman? hmmm....maybe I am out of fashion. Do you guys have the gay/lesbian community? Whether most of your friends are gays I mean the friend cycle. Is there any gay/lesbian pubs in Shanghai? |
r,
there is people with difference taste! somehow, women is not my thing and you are living in the 20th century. please be open minded!! so, why are so many straight couple get married and divoice every single day?
my partner and i are together for more then 7 yrs. we love each other so much and ours relationship is my solid then straight couple. we are just like normal people. we just like a normal family.
there is a shanghai glbt group in shanghai! and of course, there is many gay bar or pubs in shanghai.
c |
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me_myself_&_i
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Nov 21, 2007 - 06:59 PM |
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good for you
i wrote something about this in america years ago let see if you appreciate it? where i was working we had some problems with some people not anderstanding the cituation for others so i wrote this and we posted it
"sex is like politics and religions
everybody is entittled to have their own belief
only the closed minded do not accept this reality of life
by this token
they might miss in life
everything that has been layed down at their feet" |
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ThomasCaron
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Nov 21, 2007 - 08:01 PM |
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| you are living in the 20th century. please be open minded!! |
Maybe you're living in the 20th century, I wouldn't know, but last time I checked my watch it was the 21st. |
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Me_Again
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Nov 21, 2007 - 08:37 PM |
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The thing about China is, discrimination is still OK.
Since you're gay, why not try and find a backdoor? |
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gw4khq
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r,
there is people with difference taste! somehow, women is not my thing and you are living in the 20th century. please be open minded!! so, why are so many straight couple get married and divoice every single day?
my partner and i are together for more then 7 yrs. we love each other so much and ours relationship is my solid then straight couple. we are just like normal people. we just like a normal family.
there is a shanghai glbt group in shanghai! and of course, there is many gay bar or pubs in shanghai.
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Who's r,c? |
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LifeMage
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Nov 21, 2007 - 10:50 PM |
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^Rachel and Calvin! please try and keep up. |
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LifeMage
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Oh! and Me_Again....Funny, funny stuff!  |
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gw4khq
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Renovator
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since most visas now are for 30-60-90 days and not 1 or 2 years.
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When did this go into effect? I am American, just renewed my 2 year Z visa within past 2 months and was given another 2 year Z visa with 180 maximum day stay each visit. |
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CoffeeHawk_0
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April 2007. They are issuing fewer 1 and 2 year Z visas, but it's still possible to get one. A work permit AND a residence permit ties you and your company into the overal system better so they can make sure you're paying taxes, etc. So they perfer that people get this combo. They know that some people constantly getting short term L and F visas, for example, are working under the table.
I am not sure how they distinguish between issuing a Z visa and a residence permit, since both require a work permit...
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/zgqz/t84245.htm |
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Rachelfriend
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Nov 22, 2007 - 09:02 AM |
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r,
there is people with difference taste! somehow, women is not my thing and you are living in the 20th century. please be open minded!! so, why are so many straight couple get married and divoice every single day?
my partner and i are together for more then 7 yrs. we love each other so much and ours relationship is my solid then straight couple. we are just like normal people. we just like a normal family.
there is a shanghai glbt group in shanghai! and of course, there is many gay bar or pubs in shanghai.
c[/quote]
As I said before I didn't mean to offend you! I respect any kind of "true love". By the way, I don't wanna be the member of lesbian community. |
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Rachelfriend
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Nov 22, 2007 - 09:41 AM |
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Rachelfriend are you yourself a member of any club? By the way is Natalie25 also joining this club?
Your picture scares me. |
scares you?! cool! wonderful! You such coward! |
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hkcalvin
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Nov 22, 2007 - 10:16 AM |
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| Rachelfriend wrote: |
r,
there is people with difference taste! somehow, women is not my thing and you are living in the 20th century. please be open minded!! so, why are so many straight couple get married and divoice every single day?
my partner and i are together for more then 7 yrs. we love each other so much and ours relationship is my solid then straight couple. we are just like normal people. we just like a normal family.
there is a shanghai glbt group in shanghai! and of course, there is many gay bar or pubs in shanghai.
c |
As I said before I didn't mean to offend you! I respect any kind of "true love". By the way, I don't wanna be the member of lesbian community.[/quote]
r, if you chosen not to be a member. and you don't have to be one!! c |
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underh20
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since most visas now are for 30-60-90 days and not 1 or 2 years.
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When did this go into effect? I am American, just renewed my 2 year Z visa within past 2 months and was given another 2 year Z visa with 180 maximum day stay each visit. |
Huh? You must be confused. "Z" visas (i.e. residence permits) do not have maximum stays as you described. |
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