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aussieguyinshanghai
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I AM NEW IN SHANGHAI AND NEED TO GAET SATAELLITE TV, WHO IS THE BEST/MOST REPUTABLE??????
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sinned69
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simple do a search on this website using the word satellite and you will plenty of threads, read them carefully to make sure you understand the situation. satellites are here, they are illegal, but are tolerated for the convenience of expats, but there are annual crackdowns (as with most things), and not every apartment/residential complex or landlord welcomes satellites.
basically dream satellite is the main satellite here with the greatest penetration, you can find them for around 1000-1300 rmb fully installed including the first card, but every now and again the codes are changed which requires a week or so to pass before new cards are available on the black market and these sell for anything from rmb50-200 on average.
don't be in a panic though if you get a satellite and the reception goes down (due to the aforementioned code change) sometimes the codes will be changed again several times in the space of a fortnight, just wait awhile before hassling for a replacement card. getting one prematurely might see you regret it a week or so later.
anyway more on the threads... happy reading
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sinned69
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now let the advertising onslaught begin  |
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With the ballache of switching cards, the poor picture quality on dream and the awful standard of the programming I'd not bother and would just download TV shows/movies from bittorrent/newsgroups. |
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sinned69
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Dec 27, 2007 - 04:29 PM |
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With the ballache of switching cards, the poor picture quality on dream and the awful standard of the programming I'd not bother and would just download TV shows/movies from bittorrent/newsgroups.
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thats ok when the pipes are working full steam ahead, recently the net has been slow as some of the newbie drivers on the roads here |
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aussieguyinshanghai
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Thanks
My concern is that as I have a 52 inch LCD, if the signal is dodgy, on a small screen then once magnified it basically is unwatchable.......
How can I ensure I get a legitimate service?
anyone know about DSTv from Sth Africa ?
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jzzzzzzz
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I'm lucky and can always max my internet downloading from newsgroups. Anyway, set loads of stuff downloading when at work/overnight and speed is less of an issue.
Dream Satellite on a 52 inch would be laughable. DSTV is much better but you need a big dish. 1.5 or 2 metre I think? |
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aussieguyinshanghai
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Dec 27, 2007 - 04:42 PM |
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anyone know how much this costs (DSTV)?? |
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aussieguyinshanghai
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Doies anyone have a large LCD, what is the picture quality like ??? |
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emerson
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Dec 27, 2007 - 04:44 PM |
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There is no legitimate service. Satellite is illegal, period. I subscribe to Dream and have a 42 inch LCD. The picture is decent but nowhere as clear as the TV is capable of.
You could always watch local TV--50 plus channels, free, very clear but not very entertaining.
signal is good, but my |
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sinned69
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oh yeah forgot to mention that early 2008 shanghai TV will start an English language channel, some of the programming on dream channels will be on the shanghai channel, i have a huge LCD screen and for the most part am happy with the feed, ok its not as good as the picture can be sometimes, but its sure better than watching CCTV9 which just plain sucks! or playing DVD's all the time.
...and Dashan, buddy please make a Chinese language series that is actually useful for foreign newbies, since i am sure that would be the main people watching that channel. IMO |
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I sometimes watch live sport on the shanghai sport channel, if they have something i'm interested in, otherwise I don't watch it. I found the only thing I would watch on Dream was BBC World and not that often. |
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aussieguyinshanghai
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Does anyone have DSTv from South Africa ?? I hear its 40 channels of English ....
so the question is is there any benefit paying more for a "supposed" licensed card, or should I go with http://www.dreamsatellite.com/index.htm OR www.HBOCN.com.... the last guys are charging 1,500 RMB.... |
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It really depends on what content you want. If your an Aussie like me who wants the Cricket and other Aussie sports then certainly DSTV is one provider to have. Picture quality is quite good.
DSTV requies a 1.8m dish so for many the size is a problem. So thats why Dream TV is used. But it only has 38 channels and of those about 30 are English. Picture quality is generally quite poor,
I can offer nearly 100 English channels but thru MPEG4 streaming. This is a screen shot from the Big Bamboo's 3rd system. Give's you an idea of the quality. HOWEVER I ONLY HAVE LEGITIMATE PAY CARD SERVICES.
LCD screens give the poorest screen quality of any large screen TV as well as they don't have enough pixels per square inch.
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I'd point out that thats what it looks like your end in Taiwan.
Not necessarily the same quality our end in Shanghai.
Picture quality *this end* is worse than Dream Satellite, which is already compressed to bits.
However, if you can't get a satellite, then this is a decent solution, although you'll need a separate ADSL line for it, as its quite bandwidth intensive. |
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I'd point out that thats what it looks like your end in Taiwan. Not necessarily the same quality our end in Shanghai.
Picture quality *this end* is worse than Dream Satellite, which is already compressed to bits.
However, if you can't get a satellite, then this is a decent solution, although you'll need a separate ADSL line for it, as its quite bandwidth intensive. |
This is what it looks like at any end on a computer.
The above the system screenshots off a laptop on a remote connection.
The best output to viewing platforms is to use a modulator. The quality is much better than Dream TV is you have setup and adjusted your vga card and Hava video setups. Has anybody gone into the VGA Card settings, the HAVA's Video Settings and the TV settings to adjust all 3 to get a good picture? It can take about an hour to get it adjusted.
I am streaming the Big Bamboo's system the same way they connnect to it. To my computer first. So it is the same quality of stream. Your output system needs some work if you want the same quality of the pics below.
The pics below are from a customer in Argentina output with a VGA cable to his TCL monitor. SO the quality can be very good if setup properly.
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aussieguyinshanghai
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thanks, but I really dont want to stream to a computer when I have a 52 inch tv in my living room, can these two services be bundled ? ie Dream and DSTV ? |
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aussieguyinshanghai
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i can get satellite ok, I have checked, so maybe i can get the DSTV on my roof ?? this really is a pain in the ass..... very difficult over such a trivial issue, who would have thought that arranging something so simple could be such a pain in the ass ! |
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SatelliteTV
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| thanks, but I really dont want to stream to a computer when I have a 52 inch tv in my living room, can these two services be bundled ? ie Dream and DSTV ? |
Not with legitimate systems. That is because the Dream TV receiver and card are married to each other. The Dream TV receiver cannot accept more than one pay card. So if you want legitimate systems two dishes and two receivers.
Go for the dish on the roof and a legitimate subscription. Which means you have the DSTV Card in your receiver.
DSTV cards cost around US$1200 per year from most suppliers in Asia. |
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I am streaming the Big Bamboo's system the same way they connnect to it. To my computer first. So it is the same quality of stream. Your output system needs some work if you want the same quality of the pics below.
The pics below are from a customer in Argentina output with a VGA cable to his TCL monitor. SO the quality can be very good if setup properly. |
I think the correct wording is very good IF THE INTERNET DOESN"T SUCK.
Unfortunately, it does. |
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I am streaming the Big Bamboo's system the same way they connnect to it. To my computer first. So it is the same quality of stream. Your output system needs some work if you want the same quality of the pics below.
The pics below are from a customer in Argentina output with a VGA cable to his TCL monitor. SO the quality can be very good if setup properly. |
I think the correct wording is very good IF THE INTERNET DOESN"T SUCK.
Unfortunately, it does. |
JC says his average speed is over 750k so it's not an internet problem. |
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OK so one obvious question, and my apologies for being a little "obtuse", if satellite is "illegal" how can one get a "legitimate service??
Some guys flofgging a servive for 4,000+RMB, how do I know this will be any better that the other service for 1500 RMB, Dream offer the 1 year subscription for 4,500 I think with legimate card they say ??
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SatelliteTV
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OK so one obvious question, and my apologies for being a little "obtuse", if satellite is "illegal" how can one get a "legitimate service?? Some guys flofgging a servive for 4,000+RMB, how do I know this will be any better that the other service for 1500 RMB, Dream offer the 1 year subscription for 4,500 I think with legimate card they say ??
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Good Question. Firstly in China unless you get permission it is illegal to have a satellite dish. Secondly for Dream TV most installers use a receiver and a HACKED COPY card. Avoid those and buy from dreamsatellite.com the original receiver with the legitimate pay card. Contact eric@dreamsatellite.com
I think the 4500RMB is the complete install with dish receiver and one year subscription. Surely not RMB4500 per year for the pay card each year alone
A legitimate service with the provider means the actual receiver and Original PAY card. My DSTV, Dream TV, and Truevisions services use the original cards. Dream TV, DSTV and Truevisions do not sell their cards in China which is why you buy through an agent.
Sometimes the police come along and cut off the dishes.
By the way you can get the Dream TV channel links with schedules from my website, then you can see what each channel has on it's schedule each month. http://www.taiwansatellite.tv/index.php?main=tv_channels
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| thanks, but I really dont want to stream to a computer when I have a 52 inch tv in my living room, can these two services be bundled ? ie Dream and DSTV ? |
The above TV Shots are streamed from computer then directly to a TCL TV ( in Argentina ) which I believe are Made in China anyways |
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