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Post 16Posted: Feb 24, 2008 - 09:58 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top
Post subject: Turn off the dumb box and spend 30 min to learn about Kosovo

About Kosovo, you could read this truly unbiased history:

http://www.rastko.org.yu/kosovo/istorija/csavich-kosovo_crisis.html

(if you have no time, just read intro, table of content and the conclusion)

After that, see some of the comments in:

http://blogs.ft.com/rachmanblog/2008/02/kosovo-and-self-determination/

This should give you some background to make up your own mind.

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Ethnic cleansing in Kosovo:

In June 1999: according to the War Criminal appointed by NATO Bernard Kouchner (now "foreign" minister of france - no capital please), 100,000 albanian victims

A few weeks later, August, UN investigators manage to find 2000 deads, all ethnicities included.

In September 2004, Amnesty International announce a figfure of 3272

The "experts" of the International Tribunal will round this "up" to 4000 (!!).

Today most media talk about 10 000 victims...

All in all, the only measurable ethnic cleansing is 200,000 Serbs that had to leave the province... further to the anti-Serb riots, supported by NATO, in March 2004.

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Post  Posted: Feb 24, 2008 - 10:42 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Now where is located Europe's (perhaps the world's) largest US strategic military base?















Camp Bondsteel is located in the South of Kosovo, near Urosevac, between Pristina and Skopje in Macedonia. 25 000 staff, 160 buildings, a Burger King, sports and other facilities, two Churches (perhaps soon the last two churchs not burnt down by the Albanians!), hospital etc...

You can google for more info about this...

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Or for a truly unbiased and thoroughly researched account of warcrimes by Serbian militias and armed forces you could go here: www.hrw.org/reports/2001/kosovo/

I guess we will have to add Humand Rights Watch to the list of zionist pawns eh?

You could also read about warcrimes committed byt the Serbian militia the Arkan Tigers, and the JNA in Bosnia in the book "End Game" by David Rohde--I believe he won a Pullitzer for his coverage of the fall of Srebrenica. Tragedy how the U.N. troops stood by and handed over the safe area of Srebrenica. The Dutch did not feel they could hold the area and so tuned over the civilians, as well as every piece of military equipment they had.

Seems they could have easily held the area if had had close air support. However, the commander of the NATO peacekeeping forces a Bernard Janvier (from a country that will remain nameless) would not allow close air support by American fighter jets circling over the Adriatic. Seems he was worried that Serbians had taken hostage some diplomats (from the same nameless country).

Predictably the males over 15 were sperated from the rest of the population, most were never seen alive again.

Now tell me again what this has to do with zionism, and why Serbs like your bubby Arkan are victims and not two bit murdering thugs?
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What does it have to do with zionism? Ethnic cleansing? Hello, what is the very definition of zionism? Heard of the apartheid state of Israel? Heard about mixity being good good, except for the Chosen People?

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"The Dutch did not feel they could hold the area and so tuned over the civilians, as well as every piece of military equipment they had.

Seems they could have easily held the area if had had close air support.<"



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^^ not my characterization. If you read the book this was the Dutch reason for relinquishing control without a fight no air support.

Personally, I think it was a collosal betrayal to turn the area over without a fight.

Were you there? Do you have any knowledge whatsoever of tactics so as to be able to characterize this as laughable?

I am really asking no sarcasm intended. I will refrain from attacking you fragile ego.

Frenchy, so now these particular Serbs are bad guys, and they are the zionists?

Admit it, Kosovo independence is more the result of the legitimate desire to not share a state with the like of Arkan. Milosevic and his ilk made ethnicity an issue. They transformed Yugoslavia, or what was left into it into from a multiethnic state to a Serb dominated state where everyone had to carry I.D. identifying them by religion. They cannot now whine that there heartland is being rent from them by outside powers, and claim there is no reason for Kosovars not to want to be a part of Serbia.

Your point about zionism, very cute. I am not the one who first suggested this is some nefarious plot to justify zionism. Admit you were off and that the cause of Kosovo is in no way linked to zionism, don't be such a childish coward.

You are now looking just as pathetic as your lion Putin, who on the one hand mourns the coninued victimization of the Serbs and on the other back independence for South Osetia and Abkazia as punishment for Georgia having the temerity to have a foreign policy not dictated by the kremlin.

You, Putin and the Serb victim myth all pathetic.
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I am proud to be put in the same category as Putin and the People of Serbia!

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Post  Posted: Feb 25, 2008 - 11:12 PM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Cambronne wrote:
Ethnic cleansing in Kosovo:

In June 1999: according to the War Criminal appointed by NATO Bernard Kouchner (now "foreign" minister of france - no capital please), 100,000 albanian victims

A few weeks later, August, UN investigators manage to find 2000 deads, all ethnicities included.

In September 2004, Amnesty International announce a figfure of 3272

The "experts" of the International Tribunal will round this "up" to 4000 (!!).

Today most media talk about 10 000 victims...

All in all, the only measurable ethnic cleansing is 200,000 Serbs that had to leave the province... further to the anti-Serb riots, supported by NATO, in March 2004.


The only victims were the people having their car radio stolen by these cunts. Thanks to NATO that is.

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Post  Posted: Feb 26, 2008 - 03:22 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

lets all remember the 1.7 million albanians that were fleeing in terror. nato even had video evidence didnt it? the slight problem was that the convoy had been bombed by nato (not¨"serbia" and refugee numbers were deliberiately magnigified 10-100 times. isnt that the truth?)

has that not been a consistent policy of the jewish led UK- USA alliance to issue utter lies n propaganda for many years now?

well done many more people have been murdered and ethnically cleansed in the name of human rights/free market capitalism

what a sad sadistic joke
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Post  Posted: Feb 26, 2008 - 03:48 AM  Reply with quote  Back to top

Andreas wrote:
The only victims were the people having their car radio stolen by these cunts. Thanks to NATO that is.


Our perpetual victim friends, the Chinese, may take umbrage with that claim. Their sacrifices at their Belgrade embassy is the stuff of legend, and should be globally recognized as such. Lest we forget. Lest we forget.

NATO was not to blame, however. NATO was/is just a tool of the Cabal, or perhaps the politically correct term these days is the Lobby.

A devout anti-Serbist, and in the year or two preceding the war a closeted Zionist, Marie Jana Korbelová bears the breadth of responsibility for NATO's (the US) involvement. Of course, she would not have been put in a position of such influence if weren't for Bill Clinton appointing her US Secretary of State.

Still, defending the wanton ways of gypsies represents a coup that pales in comparison to her overseeing the Tutsis-Hutus dustup in Rwanda. Good job, Madam Secretary.

Divide, then conquer, that is the strategy.

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