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boredengineer
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May 16, 2008 - 08:56 AM |
 
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I also believe plugging the other nostril with your finger and blowing the snot onto the street is acceptable. |
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ymm
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May 16, 2008 - 11:07 AM |
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[quote="boredengineer"]I also believe plugging the other nostril with your finger and blowing the snot onto the street is acceptable.[/quote]
You are kidding .It is bad habit of some people and not acceptable. |
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maneo
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May 17, 2008 - 09:44 AM |
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| boredengineer wrote: |
| I also believe plugging the other nostril with your finger and blowing the snot onto the street is acceptable. |
For a farmer from the provinces, maybe.
无文明啊。 |
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bloomark
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Yes, I realized my Labor Day slip after I made it - and it's actually Memorial Day, not Labor Day.
I was not, however, hinting that Chinese people lump all foreigners together. Actually, just the opposite. I was wondering whether weiguoren was also used when pointing at Japanese or Koreans on the street.
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Sbergman, you got the point.
It is an interesting question.
Mostly, we called those Japanese who has been picked out from the crowd as "ri(4)ben(3)gui(3)zi(4). For those Koreans, we often call them gao(1)li(4)bang(4)zi(4)
They are just varnaculars related to a long story. |
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genghis
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May 21, 2008 - 09:00 AM |
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Ok, so here's a question.
Is weiguoren (or even laowai) just used as a term for foreigners IN China?
For example, if a Chinese person went to say, Italy, would that Chinese person be weiguoren? |
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sbergman
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May 21, 2008 - 09:43 AM |
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Good question! Does weiguoren really mean "foreigner" or does it mean "person who is foreign to me"? |
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Megs
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May 21, 2008 - 10:01 AM |
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| Good question! Does weiguoren really mean "foreigner" or does it mean "person who is foreign to me"? |
Not sure, but I was out walking with one of my friends the other day, and I called her a weiguoren, and she said "No, you are the weiguoren!" to which I replied "But you are a weiguoren to me!", to which she replied "True" and laughed.
Not sure if all Chinese would take that stance, but she agreed that everyone was a waiguoren to someone from a different country, etc. |
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PG-30
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May 21, 2008 - 10:07 AM |
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waiguoren means foreigners for chinese people, thus only non-chinese can be called waiguoren wherever they are. Although you can call a chinese waiguoren (ni shi waiguoren a! )when he or she can not understand your chinese or did something "unchinese", sorta like " what planet/country are you from!", i think in this way it means " person who is foreign to me". |
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genghis
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May 21, 2008 - 10:47 AM |
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So what would a Chinese person in a foreign country be called?
Say for example, I'm in the US and I am speaking Chinese with someone from China who is visiting? How would they refer to being a foreigner? |
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PG-30
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May 21, 2008 - 11:59 AM |
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nope, you just say another chinese, waiguoren only means non-chinese in most occasions. even an ABC usually would rather be refered as a chinese-american(mei ji hua ren) than waiguoren solely. of course, after all, the meaning of a word always depends on the context. |
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black_bird
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So what would a Chinese person in a foreign country be called?
Say for example, I'm in the US and I am speaking Chinese with someone from China who is visiting? How would they refer to being a foreigner?
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haiwai huaren oversea chinese.
---haigui --- turtle -- oversea chinese returned to china to work. |
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bloomark
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May 22, 2008 - 06:08 PM |
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Good question! Does weiguoren really mean "foreigner" or does it mean "person who is foreign to me"?
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Strictly it is, but usually it is accomodated when pointing whites rather than blacks and yellow expats. |
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sbergman
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It's pajama season. Do people sleep in the pajamas they wear on the street or do they change into sleeping pajamas? Do people have dedicated "going out" pajamas?
What is the purpose of the stripe in the middle of the sidewalks (the pavers that go in a different direction)? |
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Megs
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May 31, 2008 - 08:49 PM |
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It's pajama season. Do people sleep in the pajamas they wear on the street or do they change into sleeping pajamas? Do people have dedicated "going out" pajamas?
What is the purpose of the stripe in the middle of the sidewalks (the pavers that go in a different direction)? |
My "upscale" Chinese friends claim they never see these "Pajama People" I talk about.  I don't have an answer to that question unfortunately.
If you're talking about the bumpy stripe in the middle of the sidewalk, that's so blind people can find their way, and not fall off the curb (so I've been told. Hate walking on that part of the sidewalk.) |
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SnappySammy
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Here's the scoop.. The pajamas that people wear on the street, are never used for sleeping.... What you see are there going out Pajamas. A few months ago I was having dinner areound 11:00 pm .... not a fancy place, but a nice place. In walks two couples both in matching His and Her Pajamas. I thought how great it would be if Lady and Lord Bergie were to come in for dinner wearing their sleeping Pajamas!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats when I was told the people don't sleep in their outdoor pajamas.. It's also considered a low class thing to do, by most Shanghai People.... I have also been told that it is a "Shanghai Custom" and done in other cities.... |
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SnappySammy
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May 31, 2008 - 09:41 PM |
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Hey, I think this is my first sticky!
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Somehow I find that very HARD to believe |
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sbergman
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Don't you have something better to be doing than answering ShEx questions, you lucky devil? |
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SnappySammy
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I've always had a (theoretical) thing for carpenters - they're usually in good shape, are smarter than a construction worker, and usually a bit rebellious which is why they work for themselves.
Thanks for your answers. |
I saw a bumper sticker that said "Capenters Hammer Harder" it didn't say anything about how smart they are.....................................
You're right of all the trades Carpenters are the smartest, it's also( in the States) one of the few Construction trades that a Jew can apprentice in.
So is it Carpenters or Jewish that turn you on.... or maybe its Jewish Carpenters?
waiting for your (theoretical) answer |
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SnappySammy
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| Don't you have something better to be doing than answering ShEx questions, you lucky devil? |
Young People sleep till noon, after an exciting night of checkers.... It gives the old folk a few hours to recoup |
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PG-30
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June 01, 2008 - 12:12 AM |
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it depends.some people sleep naked, so that they have going out pajamas. some wear the same pajamas for both uses. some (guys) sleep and go out with no shirt on....comfortable for sure
the bumpy stripe is called "blind path", which is supposed to help blind people...and bicyclers who dont want to pay for parking bicycles. |
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maneo
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June 01, 2008 - 03:55 AM |
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Have heard that at one time having nice pajamas meant one was well off.
Wearing them outside then, would allow others to see you could afford that luxury. |
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sbergman
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June 01, 2008 - 09:23 AM |
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As for your carpenter question, Snappy. Don't care what religion they are. They're buff and they have those leather tool belts and macho boots. I especially like to see them in the summer when they're wearing cut off jeans with their leather tool belts and boots. Plus they always, ALWAYS, have a good sense of humor. It must be required for the job. |
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PG-30
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June 01, 2008 - 11:50 AM |
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mmm,cut off jeans, boots,and good sense of humor...... are there any young pretty female carpenters in the states? definitely none in china  |
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maneo
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June 01, 2008 - 12:38 PM |
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Damn.
Forgot to pack my work boots. |
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boredengineer
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June 04, 2008 - 03:12 PM |
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it depends.some people sleep naked, so that they have going out pajamas. some wear the same pajamas for both uses. some (guys) sleep and go out with no shirt on....comfortable for sure
the bumpy stripe is called "blind path", which is supposed to help blind people...and bicyclers who dont want to pay for parking bicycles. |
What does that bumpy strip have to do with bicyclists who don't want to pay for parking?
I thought the bumpy strip was just to try to divide people walking in opposite directions. China seems pretty 'blind unfriendly' for the most part. I do like walking on the strip though...like a little foot massage from a bunch of people with tiny, dirty hands. |
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