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Gazza
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Apr 15, 2008 - 06:51 PM |
 
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Just got this from the Oz Chinese Embassy site if it helps anyone:
From 15 April 2008, additional documents are required for Chinese Visa (tourism & business).
For"L" visa (tourism/visiting relatives), please provide:
- One completed application form;
- Your passport;
- One recent colour passport photo;
- Return ticket;
- Proof of hotel reservation if you go for tourism;
- Proof of relations if you go to visit relatives and you were not born in China.
For "F" visa (business visa), please provide:
- One completed application form;
- Your passport;
- One recent colour passport photo;
- Return ticket;
- Proof of hotel reservation;
- Visa Notification letter from the competent office of the Chinese government. Your inviter in China should get it for you and forward it to you to support your visa application.
And the Chinese Embassy will not issue visas of multi-entry.
http://au.china-embassy.org/eng/ls/t424895.htm
Doesn't say anything about the situation in Hong Kong, so who knows whether the same rules apply. |
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woaihuan
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Apr 15, 2008 - 06:55 PM |
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Even if you call them, their policy likely is going to change further.
But if it's the case that only permanent residents can get their visa there, then it's not likely to become any more lax in the coming months.
All I we can hope for is that it goes back to normal after the games.
As a side note,
...F*ck China
Also, I predict a lot of Filipinos (and others) overstaying their visas in the coming months. Hong Kong is going to be full of pissed off foreigners too.
Remind your Ayi! |
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french_64
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Dasher
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Apr 16, 2008 - 12:19 AM |
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Hmmmm... my parents have just had their visa application questioned. They are coming to Shanghai for about a week on their way to France and my father listed his reason for coming to China as 'visiting relatives' i.e. me. I'm only here on a tourist visa myself (and no I'm not working) and they have requested my birth certificate to prove they're my parents. Should I just book them into a hotel for the night they arrive and get them to change their reason for travel to 'tourism'? They've also requested a copy of their plane tickets proving they're leaving Shanghai. I'm feeling a little uneasy as they have both traveled to Shanghai before with no problems so I don't understand the sudden attention! |
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p1atl10
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Apr 16, 2008 - 05:32 AM |
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Cracking down on everyone in the Olympic Spirit!
As you have no resident status here, "visiting relatives" is a stretch. Techncially, you are all tourists.
My thought....
Book a hotel, print the itinerary, provide copies of the onwards tickets.
Can always cancel the hotel once they get the Visa |
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woaihuan
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Apr 16, 2008 - 08:32 AM |
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Yeah, visiting relatives isn't going to cut it.
Go with the hotel thing.
It's probably cheaper just to go back, though, unless you got a six month visa that'll last though October 28th - you're likely going to have to go back anyway. |
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cantcheckemailnopw
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Apr 16, 2008 - 09:10 AM |
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They are checking passports, visa, & permits at the gates of one park avenue this morning. |
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yu888
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cosmoandme
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Apr 16, 2008 - 02:47 PM |
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Questions please!
I'm working for an IT company on a Z visa which was renewed last year. My contract ends in May.
1) I plan to travel outside of China and will be back 2 weeks before my visa expires. Should I reconsider? (should I expect the unexpected)
2) I want to keep/renew my Z visa: I’m in the process of finding a new job and was thinking of doing the “HK thing” in the meantime, tant pis!
3)Any suggestions please?
Thanks |
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woaihuan
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Apr 16, 2008 - 02:49 PM |
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You should probably file for an extension and find a job ASAP that can get you a fully legit work visa. |
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Dasher
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Apr 16, 2008 - 02:55 PM |
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Book a hotel, print the itinerary, provide copies of the onwards tickets.
Can always cancel the hotel once they get the Visa
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Yeah I think I'll be going with this option. I still can't believe Dad put 'visiting relatives' on the application! Argh! |
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cosmoandme
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Apr 16, 2008 - 03:01 PM |
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| You should probably file for an extension and find a job ASAP that can get you a fully legit work visa. |
Thanks Woaihuan,
Next question is how to apply for an extension? Should I involve my current company? or just contact an agency?
xie xie |
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CaptainCook
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Apr 16, 2008 - 03:13 PM |
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| cosmoandme wrote: |
Questions please!
I'm working for an IT company on a Z visa which was renewed last year. My contract ends in May.
1) I plan to travel outside of China and will be back 2 weeks before my visa expires. Should I reconsider? (should I expect the unexpected)
2) I want to keep/renew my Z visa: I’m in the process of finding a new job and was thinking of doing the “HK thing” in the meantime, tant pis!
3)Any suggestions please?
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1. You should always expect the unexpected here... but I think the chance of this being an issue is slim... unless your IT company is really piss-off with you and cancelled everything straight after you finish with them.
2. You cannot extend or renew the current Z visa without the current company getting involve. The visa can only be extend or renew with the FULL blessing of the company.
3. Some has sugguested X (student) visa while others suggested rolling L (one month tourist visa and two 30D extensions of stay). |
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cosmoandme
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Apr 16, 2008 - 03:54 PM |
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| cosmoandme wrote: |
Questions please!
I'm working for an IT company on a Z visa which was renewed last year. My contract ends in May.
1) I plan to travel outside of China and will be back 2 weeks before my visa expires. Should I reconsider? (should I expect the unexpected)
2) I want to keep/renew my Z visa: I’m in the process of finding a new job and was thinking of doing the “HK thing” in the meantime, tant pis!
3)Any suggestions please?
Thanks |
1. You should always expect the unexpected here... but I think the chance of this being an issue is slim... unless your IT company is really piss-off with you and cancelled everything straight after you finish with them.
2. You cannot extend or renew the current Z visa without the current company getting involve. The visa can only be extend or renew with the FULL blessing of the company.
3. Some has sugguested X (student) visa while others suggested rolling L (one month tourist visa and two 30D extensions of stay). |
Thanks CaptainCook!
1- yep!! always E the U
2- My visa will still be valid. It expires on May 14th I'll be back May 6th. And I will still be working at the company.
3- I'm not cancelling anything, I'm leaving on good terms, end of contract. ( expect the unexpected #2) You never know
4- I would like to avoid the Ls, Xs and Fs
Unless someone here wants to hire me. I'm going to ask HR now and let u know! thanks again |
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yanlordg
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Apr 16, 2008 - 04:25 PM |
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i went to the entry exit office in pudong on minsheng road today. they said nothing has changed officially but they will be checking everything more carefully and asking questions about what you are doing here. I have been on a f visa issued here and will be trying to renew it.
Also you have to go in person now |
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dfoo
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Apr 16, 2008 - 05:48 PM |
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I'm living here legally and simply visiting friends and family. Have not worked a bit and have done all of my study with overseas schools - thus breaking no visa laws.
Yet I am going to have to go back to Canada as a result of this.
It does not just effect those living here illegally. |
You cannot get the married "L" visa due to your age? I seriously doubt you can get a temporary resident visa for Canada for your wife, nor a landed immigrant visa... |
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woaihuan
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Apr 16, 2008 - 05:57 PM |
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In my situation, it's a lot more complicated than that. Won't get into details, but it isn't a result of a law.
I think I could probably get the family L visa and could get a temporary resident visa for my wife - but not a landed immigrant visa. (18+)
We're basically applying for the visa as a friend and having my family put that they will cover all expenses (BS, but her bank account is too thin now to successfully get a visa).
Once I'm 18 we'll get a L visa, temp resident and landed immigrant, etc.
(And if the visa is declined, we will apply for it as a couple, and if we need it extended we will also do that - but due to outside circumstances we are not doing this unless necessary.) |
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loldongs
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Apr 16, 2008 - 08:34 PM |
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^Question: did the regulations for the Family L-Visa change as well?
I plan on getting married soon, and would then apply for it myself.
Would be a pain in the @ss to be only able to stay 30 days a time on it.
plz halp |
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dfoo
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Apr 16, 2008 - 10:04 PM |
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I don't know. It seems unlikely to me that they changed these regulations. |
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woaihuan
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Apr 16, 2008 - 10:17 PM |
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I think it's 30 days for everyone.... it would really be bad, though, because then they'd have to go back to their home country every 30 days (or 3m with an extension).
Lets hope not. |
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PaulR
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Apr 16, 2008 - 10:33 PM |
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My wife went to the visa office in Manchester today to get a visa to come out here in 2 weeks ...... BIG notices up everywhere about the changes and "most" people didn't have the correct paperwork.......people were being turned away for no Hotel reservation, or no flight confirmations no valid address in China etc etc ..... lots of very angry people there!
The embassy are even contacting people who have allready got Visas to get back in touch with them and go back with all the extra documents as they could be refused entry at this end!!!
SO.....if you travelling, even with an aparantly valid multi entry Visa......get in touch with the embassy and check it out! |
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Cambronne
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Apr 17, 2008 - 12:15 AM |
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| Hmmmm... my parents have just had their visa application questioned. They are coming to Shanghai for about a week on their way to France and my father listed his reason for coming to China as 'visiting relatives' i.e. me. I'm only here on a tourist visa myself (and no I'm not working) and they have requested my birth certificate to prove they're my parents. Should I just book them into a hotel for the night they arrive and get them to change their reason for travel to 'tourism'? They've also requested a copy of their plane tickets proving they're leaving Shanghai. I'm feeling a little uneasy as they have both traveled to Shanghai before with no problems so I don't understand the sudden attention! |
Just to react to this. Perhaps some of us get a tiny taste of what Chinese traveller get when apply fot visa to the Free World.
Funny to see in those visa thread how people complain about the bad chinese government etc. over such insignificant issues. Knowing that most of us come from countries that sponsor separatism in China (and other nations), kill people all over the world etc. Lets be serious. Those visa issues are just minor annoyance. |
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alex-hk
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cosmoandme
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Apr 17, 2008 - 11:56 AM |
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| woaihuan wrote: |
In my situation, it's a lot more complicated than that. Won't get into details, but it isn't a result of a law.
I think I could probably get the family L visa and could get a temporary resident visa for my wife - but not a landed immigrant visa. (18+)
We're basically applying for the visa as a friend and having my family put that they will cover all expenses (BS, but her bank account is too thin now to successfully get a visa).
Once I'm 18 we'll get a L visa, temp resident and landed immigrant, etc.
(And if the visa is declined, we will apply for it as a couple, and if we need it extended we will also do that - but due to outside circumstances we are not doing this unless necessary.) |
Hey sorry you're having so much trouble.
Your wife could apply at a vacational school or university in Canada OR find a job ( workopolis.com or ca) There are tons of government programs for people wanting to move to Cnd . I dnt know your situation but ...here are some suggestions: get a Temp Work permit, Caregiver, or Live-In caregiver, Skilled worker (mandarin teacher) Self-employed, business or Provincial moninee. Many people hire Live-In nannies who can speak mandarin. You could change it once you turn 18.
btw: Some Volunteer works do not require a work permit.
Visit this site: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/apply-who.asp
Also for Quebec, if you/wife speak French: www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/study-who.asp
If you wish to study in a short-term course or program
You do not need a study permit if you plan to take a course or program in Canada that lasts six months or less. You must complete the course or program within the period authorized for your stay in Canada.Even if you do not need a study permit, it is a good idea to apply for a permit before you come to Canada. If you decide that you want to continue your studies in another program after you complete your short-term course or program, you must apply through a Canadian visa office outside Canada for a study permit if you do not already have one...
good luck |
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chinamonty
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Apr 17, 2008 - 12:30 PM |
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The situation certainly appears to be very changeable. I went to Hong Kong on the 10th and got a three month double entry L visa which effectively is a 60 visa as you use the first entry to get back in. It was issued by the Hong Kong visa office and required no special paperwork. I was told I could have got an F visa if I had asked (which I thought I had) but anyway with the Canton Fair, the fairs in Hong Kong and Macau and then the Olympics there better be some clearer information or people just wont bother coming. I know people who have used two different travel agents with the same result so it is not uncommon. You would think with the talk of recession in the US they would be encouraging people. I find the "no multi entry" provision a bit scary. |
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