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Zorak03

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Posted: Apr 30, 2008 - 09:38 PM
Post subject: Maybe this will solve your visa issues

Hello everyone. I am a former Shanghai expat who now calls Guangzhou home. I know there is a lot of panic about the visas at this time. However, in Guangzhou is it still possible to extend your visa; and change an L to an F. I just did it at the PSB Entry Exit Bureau. Seems Guangdong kinda has its own immigration policies.
Anyways, there is a visa agent here in Guangzhou, who told me yesterday, that can process visa applications from other parts of China. I think it is easier to do the visa work in Guangzhou then Hong Kong at the point.
The agency is called "Tim Consultants." Their phone # is 020-83281219. Also www.timagents.com. If you call, ask for Tim or Melondy and tell them Jarod sent you.
Note: Im not a salesmen and since this is China, I recommend you travel here or have a friend check their office out before sending them your documents. I just thought maybe this could help a few good people up north out.

Hope this helps
Jarod.

Zorak03

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Posted: Apr 30, 2008 - 09:39 PM

P.S. They cannot process visa for African or Middle Eastern or "so called" third world countries.

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Posted: May 12, 2008 - 11:06 PM
Post subject: Re: Maybe this will solve your visa issues

Zorak03 wrote:

However, in Guangzhou is it still possible to extend your visa; and change an L to an F. I just did it at the PSB Entry Exit Bureau.

Thanks for the info. Which documents did you have to provide to change your L to an F visa at the PSB?

yu888
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Posted: May 12, 2008 - 11:18 PM

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However, in Guangzhou is it still possible to extend your visa; and change an L to an F. I just did it at the PSB Entry Exit Bureau.

hmmm but if you head down there yourself, then no need for the agency right? I mean you said you went yourself... you can just tell everyone what documents you needed and we can just fly down to handle yes?

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Posted: May 13, 2008 - 11:24 AM

Zorak03 wrote:

P.S. They cannot process visa for African or Middle Eastern or "so called" third world countries.

Talk about discrimination.
Isn't China also a "third world country" except for the fact they have a booming economy?

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Posted: May 13, 2008 - 11:29 AM

Ikbal wrote:

Zorak03 wrote:

P.S. They cannot process visa for African or Middle Eastern or "so called" third world countries.

Talk about discrimination.
Isn't China also a "third world country" except for the fact they have a booming economy?

Yeah, the nerve of China not wanting all the 419 Scammers migrating from Africa. Racists! Rolling Eyes

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yu888
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Posted: May 13, 2008 - 11:37 AM

Well despite the racism, the policies are not actually race based but nation based. I'd bet citizens of Dubai and UAE (Middle East) or South Africa (last i checked still african) can still get visas in a more or less straightforward manner as compared to "developing" and "third world" countries. Its all about the economy.

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Posted: May 13, 2008 - 01:52 PM
Post subject: Great news!!

It is really a good news! I just called them to confirm, they really could extend F visa, but only for 6 month.

Zorak03

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Posted: May 13, 2008 - 10:24 PM

Hello. To change your visa you will need a letter form your/a company (must be a Guangdong company) sealed with their company seal. Also a sealed copy of their business license. You could probably go to Alibaba.com and find a factory who would write the letter, for a fee im sure. You need to take that, along with your temp residence certificate (Guangzhou, you can probably just get one from a hotel), to the GZ PSD Entry and Exit Buearu. It will cost about 700rmb. Due to the daily changing regs, I would recommend calling up the PSB before you come. Here is their website. http://www.gz.gov.cn
Hope this helps.

blondesands

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Posted: May 14, 2008 - 11:36 AM

yu888 wrote:

Hi Yu, not so. All African countries, regardless of whether it is Nigeria or South Africa, are treated the same. It is not easy to get or renew a visa. Other countries such as Sri Lanka and India have similar difficulties.

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Posted: May 14, 2008 - 11:38 AM

blondesands wrote:

yu888 wrote:

And all of these countries are poor -- or so China considers. These same people have problems getting US visas, too.

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yu888
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Posted: May 14, 2008 - 12:10 PM

ah ok, i stand corrected on SOuth Africa, BUT the point I was making was that it is nation based and that its about the economy. As Under pointed out, these are poor countries in CHina's eyes and thus affects the way its citizens are treated in the visa process.

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samcy

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Posted: May 14, 2008 - 05:43 PM

Anyone has any experience doing it in Shanghai converting L to F visa?
What is the success rate?

vs1232

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Posted: May 14, 2008 - 07:21 PM

Zorak03 wrote:

Hello Zorak03, for 700RMB what is the length of your F visa ? Thanks for the advice.

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Posted: May 14, 2008 - 09:47 PM

It isn't just developing countries. If your a citizen of a country that has produced suicide bombers, you'll also find it difficult to get a visa.

CaptainCook

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Posted: May 15, 2008 - 09:58 AM

^^Really......have they make it extra hard for the Brits to get a visa in China? Wink

Ikbal
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Posted: May 15, 2008 - 10:07 AM

mswp wrote:

If your a citizen of a country that has produced suicide bombers, you'll also find it difficult to get a visa.

Now that is what I call a moronic over generalization.

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Posted: May 15, 2008 - 10:08 AM

underh20 wrote:

These same people have problems getting US visas, too.

Who can get the US Visa easily anyways? Very Happy

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Posted: May 15, 2008 - 10:21 AM

Ikbal wrote:

underh20 wrote:

These same people have problems getting US visas, too.

Who can get the US Visa easily anyways? Very Happy

Many from Europe, Singapore, Australia ... .

Not many from poorer countries or those with radical regimes.

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Posted: May 15, 2008 - 10:22 AM

Ikbal wrote:

mswp wrote:

If your a citizen of a country that has produced suicide bombers, you'll also find it difficult to get a visa.

Now that is what I call a moronic over generalization.

Only a moron would say that it is a moronic over-generalization.

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Posted: May 15, 2008 - 10:42 AM

underh20 wrote:

Ikbal wrote:

mswp wrote:

If your a citizen of a country that has produced suicide bombers, you'll also find it difficult to get a visa.

Now that is what I call a moronic over generalization.

Only a moron would say that it is a moronic over-generalization.

If we use that same reasoning, then the Irish and spanish from basque country should not be allowed to get a visa anywhere (I know they did not have suicide bombers but terrorism is terrorism). That's why I find that absurd.

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Posted: May 15, 2008 - 11:17 AM

Ikbal wrote:

underh20 wrote:

Ikbal wrote:

mswp wrote:

If your a citizen of a country that has produced suicide bombers, you'll also find it difficult to get a visa.

Now that is what I call a moronic over generalization.

Only a moron would say that it is a moronic over-generalization.

Ikky, it's much more complex than that.

The Irish have made up a very significant portion of the US population throughout history. Same with people of Spanish descent. Palestineans don't.

Also, it's a bit easier to identify Spanish terrorists than, say, Palestinean ones. Probably a much lower percentage in Spain, too.

Then there are the cultural ties.

It's not as easy as it looks.

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Posted: May 16, 2008 - 09:49 AM

underh20 wrote:

Many from Europe, Singapore, Australia ... .

I'm afraid you are not quiet right on this point underh20, Citizens from the following countries do not need a visa to the US thanks to the Visa Waiver program (source: wikipedia):
* Europe: (22)
Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France (including French overseas territories), Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monaco, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom
* Asia (3)
Brunei, Japan, Singapore
* Oceania (2)
Australia, New Zealand

But I agree, poorer countries get hard time getting visas there although I heard that they are lifting some restrictions on issuing visas to Chinese and Indian citizens (probably regarding work visa).

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Posted: May 16, 2008 - 06:28 PM

Ikbal wrote:

underh20 wrote:

Many from Europe, Singapore, Australia ... .

You must be confused. The original question was:

Quote:

Who can get the US Visa easily anyways?

There are still many countries from which a visa is technically required but they breeze through the process. Chile & Panama are two that come to mind. So does HK.

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