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yu888
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Sounds like SARS all over again. Except the Feces part, that's your specialty of course.
Yes adults can get Hand Foot Mouth Disease but it doesn't only happen here in China, and usually its b/c those adults are parents, so unless you are saying Bonnie's BF is so young he is young enough to be a toddler... And btw, the reason why the serious cases are typically kids is b/c they like to put their hands in their mouths after touching who knows what and compbined with a less developed immune system, they are more susceptible to this virus. |
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is there a cure for the ev-71? all i read is the cause etc. but i don't see any cure. |
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yu888
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yu888
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| BEIJING, May 7 (Xinhua) – The number of hand-foot-mouth disease (HFMD) cases reported in China this year rocketed to 15,799, up from an earlier figure of 12,164 , as of Tuesday evening, resulting in 26 deaths, according to a Xinhua tally of local official figures. |
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| There is no vaccine to prevent Coxsackie virus infection. Hand washing is the best protection. Remind everyone in your family to wash their hands frequently, particularly after using the toilet (especially those in public places), after changing a diaper, before meals, and before preparing food. Shared toys in child-care centers should be routinely cleaned with a disinfectant because the virus can live on these objects for days. |
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I think the general sentiments of 'panic' here are a result of the population density and the ability for things like this to travel at near instantaneous speed.
If there was another global flu pandemic it would most likely originate in 'Asia' and probably spread within weeks if not days and be cataclysmic and fatal on a scale modern history has yet to experience [which should = mass hysteria and general breakdown of social order and result in utter anarchy].  |
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I have been surprised at how the parents of my Chinese students send their children to school even when they have a fever or are not feeling well. This happens in the States but it is usually in poor families who cannot find alternative child care and cannot miss work without risking their job. Here I have seen it in households where there are multiple ayis and a stay-at-home mom. Are fevers just not taken very seriously here? |
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Shanghaiearl
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Just heard inofficially that Shanghai has now created a special ward for infants, toddlers and kids infected with the EV71 virus.
Ward located within the Shanghai Children Hospital in Pudong.
This is linked to the one case of outbreak at a local Kindergarten in Pudong.
Over the May days many people from the country side came to Shanghai with their kids and thereby helped the virus to spread here in Shanghai.
Not only Chinese parents are irresponsible; more so the expatriate parents [mums in particular] who just don't give a damn.
Albeit no one should fall into a panic mode ... one should take simple pre-caution. |
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| I have been surprised at how the parents of my Chinese students send their children to school even when they have a fever or are not feeling well. This happens in the States but it is usually in poor families who cannot find alternative child care and cannot miss work without risking their job. Here I have seen it in households where there are multiple ayis and a stay-at-home mom. Are fevers just not taken very seriously here? |
yep, not at all, studying with a fever will be regarded as diligence. |
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Kelly.Wu
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080507/ap_on_he_me/china_child_virus
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New disease outbreaks in China; 15,000 children infected
By HENRY SANDERSON, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
BEIJING - New outbreaks in China reported Wednesday put the number of children infected with hand, foot and mouth disease above 15,000 and the death toll has risen to at least 28 across the country.
A 2-year-old girl in the southern province of Hunan died of the disease after being in a coma, the provincial health bureau said on its Web site.
Another death was reported in the neighboring Guangxi region, Guangxi health officials said but did not give any details. The official Xinhua News Agency said the victim was a 3-year-old boy who died May 3.
Two kindergartens in Beijing were temporarily shut down Tuesday after children there showed symptoms of the disease, Xinhua said. There have been 1,482 cases in Beijing, most in kindergartens, it said.
So far, 15,799 outbreaks of the disease have been reported throughout the country this year, Xinhua said.
At least 28 children in China so far have died from the disease. Most of the deaths have been blamed on enterovirus 71, one of several viruses that cause the disease, Xinhua said. EV-71 can result in a more serious form of hand, foot and mouth that can lead to paralysis, brain swelling or death.
Although nearly all the deaths have been blamed on the virus known as EV-71, it was not immediately clear how many of the overall infections were traced to it. Xinhua said in Yunnan only nine of the 113 cases were caused by EV-71.
The hardest-hit areas include the provinces of Anhui, Guangdong, Zhejiang, and the capital Beijing. There have been smaller outbreaks in Hebei, Jiangsu, Hunan, Hubei, Shaanxi, Jiangxi and Henan provinces and in the city of Chongqing.
Xinhua said the jump in cases was due in part to a new regulation from the Ministry of Health classifying hand, foot and mouth disease among those that have to be reported to the central government.
Enterovirus causes a severe form of hand, foot and mouth disease with symptoms including fever, mouth sores and rashes with blisters. It is easily spread by sneezing or coughing. The viruses mainly strike children ages 10 and younger. Some cases can lead to fatal swelling of the brain.
There is no vaccine or specific treatment, but most children affected by mild forms of the disease typically recover quickly without problems.
Vietnam has recorded some 2,000 cases of hand, foot and mouth disease in the first four months of this year, said Nguyen Huy Nga, director of the Ministry of Health's Department of Preventive Medicine. Between 10 and 20 percent were caused by EV71.
Ten fatalities caused by the virus have been reported in the first four months, he said.
The number of cases represents an increase of 40 percent against the same period of last year, he said.
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Associated Press Medical Writer Margie Mason in Hanoi, Vietnam, contributed to this story.
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We need to consolidate these threads so all the info. is in one place. |
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yu888
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yes. read several related articles.
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| BEIJING, May 7 (Xinhua & CNN) – The number of hand-foot-mouth disease (HFMD) cases reported in China this year rocketed to 15,799, up from an earlier figure of 12,164 , as of Tuesday evening, resulting in 26 deaths, according to a Xinhua tally of local official figures. |
And in other news today... 25 auto accidents a day causing 4.16 deaths per day has accumulated 29 deaths on Shanghai's roadways in just the past week. So not only do we have to be careful and more hygenic, we need to be careful when we are anywhere near motor vehicles. |
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LOL!
I like your reply, yu888! Hmm, what's the figures for airborne accidents? Perhaps we should stop taking planes too... |
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yu888
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Just have to put things in perspective. I realise we are all a bit irrational when it comes to our kids, some more than others, but this is a risk management decision that needs to be made logically. That said, i will not critisize those with a lower risk tolerance and opt not to send their kids to school especially if they also no longer take their kids out anywhere near traffic. |
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WHO Figures:
25% of the traffic fatalities in the world occur in China |
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sbergman
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This conversation reminds me of one of my favorite child worry pet peeves - the whole stranger danger thing. All the statistics I have ever read show that when a child is killed, raped or otherwise harmed the perpetrator is usually a family member or family friend. 85% of child abductions are by someone the child knows (usually a non-custodial parent). We'd be much better off teaching kids to use good judgment than teaching them that strangers are bad. |
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| PS: Another good reason to register with your consulate is that they send you facts....not rumours. |
There's one born every minute. Wasn't Colon Powell the head of State at one time ?
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| the serious cases are typically kids is b/c they like to put their hands in their mouths after touching who knows what |
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^ Haha. |
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Not sure about this one but I remember when everyone was panicking about SARS. We lived in Beijing at the time and it was nowhere near as bad as the media presented it. All we had to do was wash hands frequently. Actually, it was the best time - so peaceful, quiet, not many people around and no traffic!
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That is because most who lived in BJ or China at that time were kept in the dark about the severity and speed the disease was advancing. A Beijing local told us she found out about the severity of SARS while on a day business trip to HKG. Meanwhile, the people working for the US Consulate and some major US companies were quietly sent home even before the news was made public in China.
Toronto unfortunately was badly affected by one lone infected person who flew in from HK. At that time they were not aware that it was SARs, thus many were infected by this one sick person including her own families and the doctors & nurses who treated her. Lots of people were ill & died and many many others affected. The whole city was crippled economically and took a while to recover. It was a very very sad time. Those with true medical needs could not get into hospitals/clinic because of the quarantine. I know because we were there and there was no holdback of the medias. People who were affected and quarantined were close friends and neighbours - not just anyone whose faces were in the front page.
And no, I don't think we should all stay home & keep our children home for the fear of this EV71 but the fact that it is out in the news is good measure to warn us about it and to keep constant watch on our little ones and of course wash, wash, wash hands!
There is nothing that I feel more frustrated than being kept in the dark and being fed a glorious picture that all is fine and "not to worry". While we should not be paranoid or panic, we should not let our guards down either and should exercise precaution.
I hope too that this EV71 too shall come to pass without claiming more lives. |
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FYI - HFMD is spread from person to person by direct contact with the nasal discharge, saliva, faeces and fluid from the rash of an infected person. Both adults and children can be affected, but young children below five years are particularly susceptible. |
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There are not only cases in Pudong. I know also a case in the Shanghai Racquet Club in Minhang! |
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Anyone know of a site in chinese that I can show my ayi to explain to her what is going on. My chinese is too poor to explain this, and I doubt i can get the message across with miming and simple vocab. I want to make sure that she takes the necessary precautions too since she takes care of my 18 month old |
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yu888
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Shanghai Public Health Clinical Center
http://www.shaphc.org/webcontent/Showggwsxx1.aspx?contentID=2775
Info on Hand Foot Mouth prevention in Chinese
手足口病防治指南
一、疾病概述
手足口病（Hand, foot and mouth disease, HFMD）是由肠道病毒引起的传染病，多发生于婴幼儿，可引起手、足、口腔等部位的疱疹，个别患者可引起心肌炎、肺水肿、无菌性脑膜脑炎等并发症。引 发手足口病的肠道病毒有20多种(型)，柯萨奇病毒A组的16、4、5、9、10型，B组的2、5型，以及肠道病毒71型均为手足口病较常见的病原体 ，其中以柯萨奇病毒A16型（Cox A16）和肠道病毒71型（EV 71）最为常见。
该病的潜伏期为2～7天，传染源包括患者和隐性感染者。流行期间，患者为主要传染源。患者在发病急性期可自咽部排出病毒；疱疹液中含大量病毒，破溃时 病毒溢出；病后数周，患者仍可自从粪便中排出病毒。
该病传播方式多样，以通过人群密切接触传播为主。病毒可通过唾液、疱疹液、粪便等污染的手、毛巾、手绢、牙杯、玩具、食具、奶具以及床上用品、内衣等 引起间接接触传播；患者咽喉分泌物及唾液中的病毒可通过飞沫传播；如接触被病毒污染的水源，亦可经水感染；门诊交叉感染和口腔器械消毒不合格亦是造成 传播的原因之一。
人群对引起手足口病的肠道病毒普遍易感，感染后可获得免疫力。由于不同病原型别感染后抗体缺乏交叉保护力，因此，人群可反复感染发病。成人大多已通过 隐性感染获得相应抗体，因此，手足口病的患者主要为学龄前儿童，尤以≤3岁年龄组发病率最高。据国外文献报道，每隔2～3年在人群中可流行一次。
手足口病分布广泛，无明显的地区性；四季均可发病，以夏秋季高发。本病常呈暴发流行后散在发生；流行期间，幼儿园和托儿所易发生集体感染，家庭也亦可 发生聚集发病现象 。该病传染性强，传播途径复杂，在短时间内可造成较大规模流行。
二、疫情概况及趋势预测
(一) 国际疫情概况
手足口病是全球性传染病，世界大部分地区均有流行报导。1957年新西兰首次报导该病，1958年分离出柯萨奇病毒，1959年提出“手足口病”命名 。美国、澳大利亚、意大利、法国、荷兰、西班牙、罗马尼亚、巴西、加拿大、德国等国家经常发生由各型柯萨奇、埃可病毒和EV 71引起的手足口病。
日本是手足口病发病较多的国家，历史上有过多次大规模流行，1969～1970年的流行以Cox A16感染为主，1973和1978年的2次流行则由EV71引起，1997～2000年手足口病在日本再度活跃，EV 71、Cox A16病毒均有分离。20世纪90年代后期，EV 71开始肆虐东亚地区。1997年马来西亚发生了主要由EV 71引起的手足口病流行，4～8月共有2628例发病，仅4～6月就有29例病人死亡，死者平均年龄1.5岁。1998年我国台湾省发生EV 71引起的手足口病和疱疹性咽峡炎暴发流行，在6月和10月两波流行中，共监测到129106例，重症病人405例，死亡78例，死亡病例大多为5岁 以下的儿童，并发症包括脑炎、无菌性脑膜炎、肺水肿或肺出血、急性软瘫和心肌炎等。
(二) 我国疫情概况
我国自1981年在上海发现本病，以后北京、河北、天津、福建、吉林、山东、湖北、广东等十几个省（市 | |
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