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cankles
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July 14, 2008 - 11:26 AM |
 
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I'm caving in and looking to get Sat. TV -- basically to get the Australia Network for news and sport and hopefully some of the Olympics.
I've got the dish and a 'Bolt' branded box installed correctly from the last tenant so I just need the card.
Any recommended places to get the card and how much should I be looking to pay? |
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cankles
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July 14, 2008 - 07:05 PM |
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So you're saying the BOLT box can't handle the encryption?
Can other people confirm the Australia Network doesn't work on their BOLT box? |
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Zak101
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July 14, 2008 - 07:47 PM |
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Well, highly confirmed on X-SAT box, too. I wouldn't get too uppity. If you like "smart card error",or "card upside down" - or other ANNOYING error messages on your screen - I suggest you get very friendly with Mr. Satellite TV. PM might do the trick.
I think that the halcyon days are over for Dream TV for those who prefer DW and Australia Network. |
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p1atl10
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July 14, 2008 - 10:48 PM |
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And you work for?
DUH!
How about taking out an ad wingnut and supporting the site for a change? |
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mat
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July 14, 2008 - 10:53 PM |
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ahhh. Mr P1atl10 is about 2 more channels being pulled from sucking up to Mr Satellite TV.
"I'm sorry, may i have my CNNNNNN and Cartoon network back"
haha. |
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p1atl10
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July 14, 2008 - 11:30 PM |
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The day may well come...
Or.... I just move into the Shed and take over the remote 
The loft looks cozy.... |
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SatelliteTV
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July 15, 2008 - 11:23 AM |
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And you work for? DUH!
How about taking out an ad wingnut and supporting the site for a change? |
Yes did ask about an adver costs 5000rmb a month. But I can answer any questions on the forums but not initiate too much. Michael has addressed that issue with me.
Actually I work for my self and have my own business in Taiwan. I also work for Philsatcorp.... as well directly to the CEO of Philsatcorp /Ben Sports
We will soon add in the Casino Channel for online gambling... anybody for poker? Dogs and horse racing added in too Mat.
You are going to get a lot of excitng stuff coming up in the near future.
You aint seen nothing yet.... |
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SatelliteTV
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July 15, 2008 - 11:25 AM |
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| mat wrote: |
ahhh. Mr P1atl10 is about 2 more channels being pulled from sucking up to Mr Satellite TV.
"I'm sorry, may i have my CNNNNNN and Cartoon network back"
haha. |
Hey Mat havent heard back from you about your tech issue I took up in Manila.... everything sorted? |
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cankles
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July 15, 2008 - 05:05 PM |
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I've been doing a bit of reading and noticed that the Australia Network actually broadcasts for free and you can set up the channel on your own equipment?
The Australia network even distributes encryption cards for free for events like Rugby ect which is encrypted.
If I just want some news from home and some sport, that would be an okay solution, right? |
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Cylon
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July 15, 2008 - 05:16 PM |
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cankles
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July 15, 2008 - 10:51 PM |
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I already have a satellite dish, why another?
SatelliteTV> Are you saying the company you work for has the rights to the Australian Network and other Western TV in China? Also, if I pay for the service through you, it is totally legitimate?
When I say legitimate, I mean in sense of allowed in China (a permit, I guess?) and a legal feed from where ever you're shipping it in from?
Sorry if this is a lot of questions but I'm just getting up to speed on the whole process. |
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dalaohu
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July 16, 2008 - 04:48 PM |
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If you want to install a Satellite dish in China legally, you must apply to the government. If you don`t, it is illegal. But nobody will apply because everyone know if you are not a VERY IMPORTANT PERSON you can not the their approve. So everyone install ILLEGAL dish. But too many people do the illegal thing because our government is always sleep. Any time he wake up he will go to punish some of those people---Sure not all people will be punished. This law is very old called NO.129 order.
Very notorious.... After this year this law is very likly to be terminated, after the Olympic games. |
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dalaohu
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July 16, 2008 - 05:03 PM |
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According to the State Council Order No. 129 "satellite ground receiving television broadcasting facilities management regulations" and the national radio and television ministerial decree No. 11 "<ground> implementation details of" the relevant provisions of the illicit production, sale, Import, installation and use of ground satellite television reception facilities will make the following penalties:
First, the illicit production of satellite television reception facilities, according to relevant provisions of punishment.
Second, the illegal sale of satellite television reception facilities, the confiscation of their reception facilities, in addition to a fine twice the sales.
Third, the illegal installation of satellite television reception facilities will impose a maximum fine of 30,000 yuan.
Fourth, illegal settings, the use of satellite television reception facilities for the illegal units, a maximum fine of 50,000 yuan; violation of the individual, the maximum fine of 5,000 yuan. And the confiscation of their reception facilities.
5, the illegal import of satellite TV reception facilities, according to relevant provisions of punishment.
6, unauthorized and no unit or individual shall not be released through various media to sell satellite TV reception facilities and installation of the advertising service, and offenders punished according to relevant regulations.
7, and no unit or individual shall not be distributed to the residential quarters of the sale, installation of satellite television reception facilities of small ads, and offenders punished according to relevant regulations.
8, to resist and impede management in accordance with the law of satellite ground receiving facility for the production, distribution, setup, installation and use of management by the public security departments in accordance with the "law and order and punishment of the People's Republic of China" provisions of punishment; serious cases, which constitute a crime , The judiciary shall be held by the parties of criminal responsibility.
If some people have installed and used illegal "little ears", as long as the automatic removal of the future no longer in use, management will no longer hold, but if ignored, continue to use, management will be forcibly removed, and to the relevant provisions of the Maximum 5,000 yuan fine. |
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emerson
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OK, FYI. As if things could not get any unclearer, it has been about 5 weeks since I lost Dream and I finally called my sat tv guy. Because Dream is supposedly now only available from the Co or authorized local dealers, which I'm pretty sure my sat guy is not, I expected I would have to purchase another package. Surprisingly, I did not. After a quick switch of receivers, I am now again watching Dream programming. I have all channels and the quality is better than before. |
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Dom81
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Aug 02, 2008 - 08:13 PM |
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Emerson - does this include the Australian Network channel also? |
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emerson
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Aug 02, 2008 - 11:24 PM |
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| Emerson - does this include the Australian Network channel also? |
No. It shows on the list of channels but screen is blank. |
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 03, 2008 - 04:17 PM |
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| Emerson - does this include the Australian Network channel also? |
No. It shows on the list of channels but screen is blank. |
Then either you have Homecast receiver with the old BLUE Dream TV card which has no access or another pirate box.
The new GREEN card nagra3 receivers are happily receiving Australia network.
Just go to OMalleys or Big Bamboos to see. They got their Dream TV from me.
Or just drop in and see Mat at the Shed, his are fine too.
You need to buy the Crystal box with the new GREEN Dream TV card. If you dealer sold you anything else you have been ripped off and should ask for a refund.
jim@philsatcorp.com |
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emerson
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Aug 03, 2008 - 05:35 PM |
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| SatelliteTV wrote: |
| emerson wrote: |
| Dom81 wrote: |
| Emerson - does this include the Australian Network channel also? |
No. It shows on the list of channels but screen is blank. |
Then either you have Homecast receiver with the old BLUE Dream TV card which has no access or another pirate box.
The new GREEN card nagra3 receivers are happily receiving Australia network.
Just go to OMalleys or Big Bamboos to see. They got their Dream TV from me.
Or just drop in and see Mat at the Shed, his are fine too.
You need to buy the Crystal box with the new GREEN Dream TV card. If you dealer sold you anything else you have been ripped off and should ask for a refund.
jim@philsatcorp.com |
Maybe. The point is I now/still have most of the Dream channels I had before my Bolt box lost reception 6 weeks ago. I don't have the Australia Network (don't think I had it before--only ABC) but the picture quality is much better.
Based on all the ads and warnings this spring I was under the impression that no box but the new box and card would work?
By the way, there was no charge for the new receiver as I was still under warranty. If I renew in a couple of months I need to pay RMB $400. |
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 03, 2008 - 06:00 PM |
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Maybe. The point is I now/still have most of the Dream channels I had before my Bolt box lost reception 6 weeks ago. I don't have the Australia Network (don't think I had it before--only ABC) but the picture quality is much better.
Based on all the ads and warnings this spring I was under the impression that no box but the new box and card would work? By the way, there was no charge for the new receiver as I was still under warranty. If I renew in a couple of months I need to pay RMB $400. |
The change is that Dream TV have a new encryption system they were planning to implement completely on 01 June. Dream TV have had to delay that but it will happen. Australia Network and DW were moved across which is why only those with the new cards can watch them. Same for Ben Sports 1 which carries the EPL.
Australia Network, DW, and Ben Sports1 are on the Dream TV package. |
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jeffry3
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Aug 03, 2008 - 06:23 PM |
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so when exactly all the channel will go nagra 3??? |
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emerson
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Aug 03, 2008 - 07:19 PM |
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| so when exactly all the channel will go nagra 3??? |
That is the million dollar question which nobody is prepared to answer.
At first it was all or nothing by June 1. Then there was word of delays and reports that some boxes, like my Bolt pooched, while others continued working. For now, Dream for me is still a go--minus a few channels that, quite frankly don't make or break the package.
I'd hesitate to say this will last, and I am not paying new money for Dream from my local sat guy. At some point Dream may actually pull the plug, but this is certainly not the situation they were warning about last spring |
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jeffry3
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Aug 03, 2008 - 07:52 PM |
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hey there satellite TV when exactly you will pull all the plug? You have been saying the switchover from April I think and now it's august already..... |
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 03, 2008 - 10:02 PM |
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| so when exactly all the channel will go nagra 3??? |
Actually all the channels are broadcast on Nagra3. The ones you can watch are still on Nagra1.
As to when it completely moves over that is for Dream TV to decide. They can do it anytime they feel they are ready and have enough customers shifted over.
Taking Australia Network and DW certainly helped. I think you will see a few more channels go off soon as well. |
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SatelliteTV
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Aug 03, 2008 - 10:04 PM |
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| hey there satellite TV when exactly you will pull all the plug? You have been saying the switchover from April I think and now it's august already..... |
I said they would upgrade receivers for new cards which they have done. I advised that all the channels would be migrated to Nagra3 which has been done.
You can always wait and not buy anything until it is all off.
Yes there have been delays. SO be patient.  |
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mat
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Aug 03, 2008 - 10:25 PM |
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Australia Network is broadcast free to air. Problem is you need a 1.8m dish, which in most instances here, is impossible.
I've got the full system from Jim at SatelliteTv and it is all good. All of my friends have lost it at home, but mine still good. And by the sounds of it, more channels to be lost soon.
Just don't switch off that JesusTV mate, you'll have everyone up in arms. |
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